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7_Sorrows
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That is funny!
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SalamKhan
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No, it would invalidate one’s fast. However, if someone has a serious condition, then they should consult a medical expert to check if it would be safe for them to fast.
Yes, but it’s considered makruh (disliked) due to toothpaste.
I live in the UK, and I haven’t seen anyone faint yet.
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SalamKhan
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LOL, that’s not a real ruling.
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Salibi
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I knew they were pulling my leg! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
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TMC
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We know that the Prophet was familiar with Christianity, but fasting is common to almost all religions and cultures, so its not like Islam necessarily copied this tradition from Christian tradition.
As to how “amazing” Ramadan may or may not be, its a religious tradition, its not being done to impress others. For the Muslims I know that take Ramadan seriously it can be vary challenging. Much more so than Lent, IMO.
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K2992
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Ramadan Mubarak! Thank you sm for coming on here to say that. Whilst I am Catholic this is one of my favourite times of the year and it’s nice to be able to support my Muslim friends as they supported me during lent. May God make this time easy for you
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Salibi
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The Bristish travel writer, William Dalrymple, once expounded on several things Islam adopted from Syriac, Maronite, and Nestorian Christian traditions. From the Syriacs, prostrations, from Nestorians, calling Mary mother of Jesus instead of mother of God, from the Maronites, domes and slender church towers which became the staples of the Muslim mosque. The qibla (the niche facing Mecca) was adapted from the Syriac Christian practice of having an apse and bowing before it in prayer. Islam has also adopted many Christian saints such as Saint George, who became known to the Arabs under the title Jirjis al Khodor ( George the Green). The Muslims ask Saint George for babies. The back pews of Saint George’s church where I live are nearly always occupied by Muslims. They watch us celebrate Mass then proceed to light candles to the saint after we’re done.
If I had Dalrymple’s book near me I would have screenshotted the relevant pages, but unfortunately I’m not staying at home currently.
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Salibi
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It is indeed so! They put us to shame with our pitiful fasting practices. Even in the East, where the fast is stricter than in the Latin Church, the Muslims still outstrip us in the severity of their fasting. That’s why I’ve adopted it, but I’m worse off, since I start my fast from midnight and extend it nearly all day. A Muslim, on the other hand, would wake up in the night for souhour- the meal eaten before the fast starts.
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Islam was known as a Christian heresy when it first appeared.
Also, some Muslims always seem to mention their fasting as if they are expecting everyone to be amazed at their feat. I’ve had Muslim friends do this in the past and now I have a co-worker that makes a rather loud and big deal out of the fact that she is fasting. She even announced that she was practice fasting two weeks before Ramadan- and makes sure we all see her doing her prayers in the break room- instead of the established multi-faith prayer room available to all employees. I’d give them a cookie- but I wouldn’t want to tempt them.
The first rule of fasting club is to not talk about fasting club. However, that’s how it is in Orthodoxy.
Also, some Muslims always seem to mention their fasting as if they are expecting everyone to be amazed at their feat. I’ve had Muslim friends do this in the past and now I have a co-worker that makes a rather loud and big deal out of the fact that she is fasting. She even announced that she was practice fasting two weeks before Ramadan- and makes sure we all see her doing her prayers in the break room- instead of the established multi-faith prayer room available to all employees. I’d give them a cookie- but I wouldn’t want to tempt them.
The first rule of fasting club is to not talk about fasting club. However, that’s how it is in Orthodoxy.
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Salibi
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This is wrong in Islam. And in Catholicism as well.
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Salibi
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She must have broken her fast the year before, and now she’s fasting extra in penance- it’s not something she should be proud of!
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CoffeeFanatic
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Right! She’s a nice person, but I thought it was more than a little bit odd when she brought it up!
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Salibi
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I would suggest politely telling her that her fast is for her own spiritual edification, not for showing off.
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CoffeeFanatic
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Eh, I’d rather not get into religious discussions at work. I don’t want to start an uproar or anything.
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SalamKhan
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That’s fascinating, although I thought Mosque architecture was borrowed from Byzantine & Persian architecture.
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Salibi
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My books singled out Syriac Christianity as the source of inspiration for the architecture of Muslim mosques.
Of course they must have all taken bits and pieces from each other. You know humans.
Of course they must have all taken bits and pieces from each other. You know humans.
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SalamKhan
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There are some superagatory fasts outside of the obligatory fasts of Ramadan, such as mid Shaban (two weeks before Ramadan).
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Salibi
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Interesting. Thanks for the info.
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SalamKhan
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“So woe to those that pray and are heedless of their prayers, to those who make display and refuse charity.”- Qur’an 107:4-7
Mahmud ibn Labid reported: The Messenger of God, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “ Verily, my greater fear for you is the lesser idolatry .” They said, “What is the lesser idolatry, O Messenger of God?” The Prophet said, “ It is ostentation. God Almighty will say to them on the Day of Resurrection, when people are being recompensed for their deeds: Go to those for whom you made a show in the world and look, do you find any reward with them ?”- Musnad Aḥmad 23119
Mahmud ibn Labid reported: The Messenger of God, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “ Verily, my greater fear for you is the lesser idolatry .” They said, “What is the lesser idolatry, O Messenger of God?” The Prophet said, “ It is ostentation. God Almighty will say to them on the Day of Resurrection, when people are being recompensed for their deeds: Go to those for whom you made a show in the world and look, do you find any reward with them ?”- Musnad Aḥmad 23119
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StillWandering
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You should try the traditional Irish fasting rules for Lent & Advent, (and peculiarly, for all Wednesdays & Fridays)
1 meal per day
No animal products, including eggs, dairy, fish, lard etc.
If there is a great Feast in the period and on Sundays, you are permitted to eat fish at your 1 meal.
The fasting rules gave Gaelic it’s names for Wednesday (Ceadaíonn {first fast}, Thursday (Déardaoin {between fasts}& Friday (Aoine {The Fast}
It’s basically half the year being vegan
1 meal per day
No animal products, including eggs, dairy, fish, lard etc.
If there is a great Feast in the period and on Sundays, you are permitted to eat fish at your 1 meal.
The fasting rules gave Gaelic it’s names for Wednesday (Ceadaíonn {first fast}, Thursday (Déardaoin {between fasts}& Friday (Aoine {The Fast}
It’s basically half the year being vegan
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