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Seriously, I think I have OCD or anxiety issues or SOMETHING. I can’t seem to break this cycle of depression, doubt, anxiety and fear about religion, and how it plays in my life. I swing from being hyper scrupulous, to not giving a flying…fig. One minute praying a rosary peacefully and the next wallowing in the fear that everything I’ve been taught could be wrong. I’m wondering if being on here so often is contributing to this. dissensions and arguments of the unfriendly variety, laying new doubts to questions I’ve already asked the answers for many times…every opposing opinion seems to be weakening my resolve. And I’m not even talking so-called “evidence”. It seems all it takes is for someone to say, Catholicism is a lie, and I can’t get the idea from my head. How can I hear God when I have so many other people’s opinions and assertions in my head?

I think I’m rambling. Again. Because our Lord knows I’ve posted enough threads about my spiritual OCD.
 
Do you pray specifically for the virtue of faith every day? Have you prayed a novena for an infusion of faith?

I can’t comment on any psychological elements, so I can only think of what I would do in this situation. I’m sorry if it’s not much help!

Saying a few prayers for you.
 
I start the morning padding to the washroom, saying good morning to God and asking him to try not to let me fall too hard on my face from doubt.

I’ll sound like a bad Catholic but I really aren’t sure what a novena is…?
 
I feel the same way as you do. I think the ask the apologist feature on here is awesome. But there are so many non-Catholics and fallen Catholics that it makes a lot of these threads on very serious subjects to be difficult to follow since everyone speaks from a position of authority even when they do not know anything about it. I personally wish more positive threads were on here. Most threads are either fierce debates or someone with a depressing problem asking for help. All these things can contribute to give the devil ammunition with all the different ideas in your mind. He does his absolute best and is very effective at using your own knowledge and tendencies against you. Thats how he gets souls to go his way. He doesnt try the hard route. He does what is the easiest.
 
I start the morning padding to the washroom, saying good morning to God and asking him to try not to let me fall too hard on my face from doubt.
That’s definitely a good thing.
I’ll sound like a bad Catholic but I really aren’t sure what a novena is…?
There are too many devotional practices to know about in Catholicism for anyone to start judging. 😛

A novena is a devotion whereby you pray to a particular saint (or Divine Person/s) for a particular intention for nine successive days. This is a novena to St. Therese of the Little Flower, for example: ewtn.com/therese/novena.htm
 
These discussions are not good for everyone. If you find them weakening your faith, step back for a while until you feel stronger in your faith. Maybe just read the apologists’ answers and then get off. We’d miss you, but you have to guard the gift of faith.

Betsy
 
These discussions are not good for everyone. If you find them weakening your faith, step back for a while until you feel stronger in your faith. Maybe just read the apologists’ answers and then get off. We’d miss you, but you have to guard the gift of faith.

Betsy
This is what I keep telling myself, but the little voice in the back of my head keeps telling me that I’m just afraid of hearing things I don’t want to hear, because I’m afraid they might be true. And then my OCD kicks in, and I feel like I absolutely HAVE to check the site for new posts. Like, neeeed to. 😊

@ Jared- thank you for the info! Do particular novena’s have specific meanings or intentions?

@ MJS- I know exactly what you mean. I can’t hardly go into long threads because I know it will be having a million opinions from a million places. But I feel like I HAVE to read them, because if a Baptists or a Mormon or a Fundamentliast believes something, it has to be for a reason, The Voice tells me…
 
These discussions are not good for everyone. If you find them weakening your faith, step back for a while until you feel stronger in your faith. Maybe just read the apologists’ answers and then get off. We’d miss you, but you have to guard the gift of faith.

Betsy
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Sometimes you have to spend your time with God, and God alone. He’s the only one who can truly fill you with, and strengthen your Faith.

We all have these struggles sometimes.

Erin-Anne :shamrock2:
 
Thank you guys for the advice! I think I will try praying a novena.

Do or did any of you ever go through something like this? A time of doubt, where you begin to wonder, maybe the others are right? Maybe I’ve got it wrong?
 
Thank you guys for the advice! I think I will try praying a novena.

Do or did any of you ever go through something like this? A time of doubt, where you begin to wonder, maybe the others are right? Maybe I’ve got it wrong?
Ooooh yes! I left the Church for quite a few years, tried various Spiritual paths (some I won’t even revisit in discussion). I fought it for a long time, but eventually I realized each one was lacking - I don’t feel that way in regards to the Catholic Church, especially now that I’ve experienced life outside of it.

This is a HARD Religion. The Laws can feel overwhelming and the revelations sometimes scary, but if we stay focused on God and his infinite love & mercy, we’ll be richly rewarded. As humans its not easy to look beyond our mundane daily lives. We have to swim upstream towards God in a secular river. Prayer, and lots of it, is what helps us do this.
 
Do or did any of you ever go through something like this? A time of doubt, where you begin to wonder, maybe the others are right? Maybe I’ve got it wrong?
Yep, for six months when I was fifteen years old, wondering whether Christianity was true or not. That was the hardest period in my life. The second hardest period was the journey into Catholicism, when I discovered that my Protestant beliefs were, insofar as they differed from Catholicism, wrong. Those were the two most painful periods in my life by a lot. I got through them through faith and God’s great, great help (though I didn’t sense how He was helping me during the six month period). Faith, sticking with Christ whatever your feelings are throwing at you, is an act of the will. We can choose faith; it’s not a feeling, though it comes to us through grace.

One person might feel he has all the faith in the world, but then when something goes wrong in his life, he crumples. Another person might feel that he has no faith, but when a trial comes, he sticks with his religion and in time (maybe even years) his spiritual life blossoms as a result. The second person had faith, the first did not, even though their feelings contradicted this.

Jesus said, “Come to me, all you who labor and are burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am meek and humble of heart; and you will find rest for your selves. For my yoke is easy, and my burden light” (Matt. 11:28-30).

The Mass is the perfect place to do this. If you have time to go to Daily Mass, I strongly recommend it. It’s also valuable to approach Mass as a prayer. The words of the readings are God’s voice speaking to you, your life, and your personal situation. One should listen to them that way, and to all the hymns and prayers as your voice to God and His to you. The Mass in this way becomes highly personal, and the incredible thing you may well find is how amazingly often the words of the Mass prayers, hymns, readings or homilies match exactly what you’re going through in your life. The Mass is truly the Lord’s divine loudspeaker, so that is the place to draw close to God.

Another couple ideas. One is by St. Francis de Sales, which is to pray each morning and night, in the morning praying against all sins you’re prone to committing and praying for graces and spiritual help and protection, and at night, praying in repentance for any sins you committed during the day and thanksgiving for all the favors you can remember receiving from His Providence.

The second idea is something we really should all be doing as much as we can, which is to try to make Sunday a day of rest, a day to put aside all unnecessary work and try to make time to rest and seek the Lord’s peace.

Jared’s novena idea was certainly a good one! Novenas are wonderful.
 
Seriously, I think I have OCD or anxiety issues or SOMETHING. I can’t seem to break this cycle of depression, doubt, anxiety and fear about religion, and how it plays in my life. I swing from being hyper scrupulous, to not giving a flying…fig. One minute praying a rosary peacefully and the next wallowing in the fear that everything I’ve been taught could be wrong. I’m wondering if being on here so often is contributing to this. dissensions and arguments of the unfriendly variety, laying new doubts to questions I’ve already asked the answers for many times…every opposing opinion seems to be weakening my resolve. And I’m not even talking so-called “evidence”. It seems all it takes is for someone to say, Catholicism is a lie, and I can’t get the idea from my head. How can I hear God when I have so many other people’s opinions and assertions in my head?

I think I’m rambling. Again. Because our Lord knows I’ve posted enough threads about my spiritual OCD.
My dear friend

You might need to leave the forums if you have too much trouble. Have you tried praying a lot to the Holy Spirit about increasing your faith and giving you certainty about your faith and assisting you with this problem? Try closing your eyes for a while each day and just talk to the Holy Spirit about it all mentally and ask His help. He will help you. I would get a spiritual director to advise me too. But as said the Great Director your spiritual director works for is the Holy Spirit.

I hope this helps.

God bless you and pray for me please:thumbsup:🙂

John
 
I start the morning padding to the washroom, saying good morning to God and asking him to try not to let me fall too hard on my face from doubt.

I’ll …?
I am not qualified to give any advice but it does occur to me that you are already praying more and at the right time and place, with the right attitude, than many of us are.
 
Seriously, I think I have OCD or anxiety issues or SOMETHING. I can’t seem to break this cycle of depression, doubt, anxiety and fear about religion, and how it plays in my life. I swing from being hyper scrupulous, to not giving a flying…fig. One minute praying a rosary peacefully and the next wallowing in the fear that everything I’ve been taught could be wrong. I’m wondering if being on here so often is contributing to this. dissensions and arguments of the unfriendly variety, laying new doubts to questions I’ve already asked the answers for many times…every opposing opinion seems to be weakening my resolve. And I’m not even talking so-called “evidence”. It seems all it takes is for someone to say, Catholicism is a lie, and I can’t get the idea from my head. How can I hear God when I have so many other people’s opinions and assertions in my head?

I think I’m rambling. Again. Because our Lord knows I’ve posted enough threads about my spiritual OCD.
I can relate somewhat, but I have the added bonus of feeling as though nothing I do is acceptable to God, even going to Confession and confessing every sin I can remember. It makes me wonder if I am excluded from the number of the elect.
 
I can relate somewhat, but I have the added bonus of feeling as though nothing I do is acceptable to God, even going to Confession and confessing every sin I can remember. It makes me wonder if I am excluded from the number of the elect.
The Lord excludes no one! We are here on this earth to work out our salvation with His grace.
 
Garbage in = Garbage out

Monitor what you are feeding yourself.

Man can not live on bread alone.

Love others

Scripture and prayer, etc.
 
Yep, for six months when I was fifteen years old, wondering whether Christianity was true or not. That was the hardest period in my life. The second hardest period was the journey into Catholicism, when I discovered that my Protestant beliefs were, insofar as they differed from Catholicism, wrong. Those were the two most painful periods in my life by a lot. I got through them through faith and God’s great, great help (though I didn’t sense how He was helping me during the six month period). Faith, sticking with Christ whatever your feelings are throwing at you, is an act of the will. We can choose faith; it’s not a feeling, though it comes to us through grace.

One person might feel he has all the faith in the world, but then when something goes wrong in his life, he crumples. Another person might feel that he has no faith, but when a trial comes, he sticks with his religion and in time (maybe even years) his spiritual life blossoms as a result. The second person had faith, the first did not, even though their feelings contradicted this.

Jesus said, “Come to me, all you who labor and are burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am meek and humble of heart; and you will find rest for your selves. For my yoke is easy, and my burden light” (Matt. 11:28-30).

The Mass is the perfect place to do this. If you have time to go to Daily Mass, I strongly recommend it. It’s also valuable to approach Mass as a prayer. The words of the readings are God’s voice speaking to you, your life, and your personal situation. One should listen to them that way, and to all the hymns and prayers as your voice to God and His to you. The Mass in this way becomes highly personal, and the incredible thing you may well find is how amazingly often the words of the Mass prayers, hymns, readings or homilies match exactly what you’re going through in your life. The Mass is truly the Lord’s divine loudspeaker, so that is the place to draw close to God.

Another couple ideas. One is by St. Francis de Sales, which is to pray each morning and night, in the morning praying against all sins you’re prone to committing and praying for graces and spiritual help and protection, and at night, praying in repentance for any sins you committed during the day and thanksgiving for all the favors you can remember receiving from His Providence.

The second idea is something we really should all be doing as much as we can, which is to try to make Sunday a day of rest, a day to put aside all unnecessary work and try to make time to rest and seek the Lord’s peace.

Jared’s novena idea was certainly a good one! Novenas are wonderful.
Great advice, the Mass is perfect for anyone problems

God Bless You!!!

:):)🙂
 
These discussions are not good for everyone. If you find them weakening your faith, step back for a while until you feel stronger in your faith. Maybe just read the apologists’ answers and then get off.
This is what I do…not when I lose faith but more to maintain my sanity from attacks from other denominations. Unfortunately, due to recent and past events we are ripe for attacks. As I peruse the boards I notice alot more denominations have entered areas that they had not before just to make attacks. This has created a very negative and hostile environment and makes it uncomfortable for casual users. But, whats important and where I draw strength from is the fact that Jesus said that we would be persecuted and that its not the priests or the pope that make up the church, its the community.
What you have to realize is that the majority of the priests are good and honorable people. Only the few…very few have done evil. Do a google search for different Christian denominations and you will find many heinous acts from all organizations. Unfortunately, where you have a large group of people you will have a few falter.
Just remember that its about you and your salvation and that ultimately you are the one that will be judged for what you do in the end. Thats what counts.
I used to try to take in every bit of information but I find my faith waning in not God or the Church, but man…so now I choose to walk with blinders on and turn a deaf ear to the media and naysayers…take things with a grain of salt.
This is the best advice I can give. Have faith in the Church and in God. All is well.
 
What works best for me to recenter myself in the middle of fear and doubt is a visit to the adoration chapel. I have no time frame on this one-- I just sit quietly, letting all the stuff running around in my mind unwind and empty itself, and then remain until I am absorbed in His peace. Then after quietly listening for a little while, I pray a rosary. Sometimes that takes about a half hour to 45 minutes… other times I have sat in the chapel for three hours or longer. But it has never failed me. He is always there.

Not all parishes have perpetual adoration with the Eucharist exposed, but He is just as present in the tabernacle, too
 
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