**The thread is now closed. Multitudinous references to previous discussions on this topic can be found by using the search tool and this one seems to be less than productive in its content. Earlier this month a moderator post was made calling for a “brief vacation” on this subject.
Past experience shows that the best threads are usually introduced by a question, or excerpts from an interesting article which may be of interest to others to discuss.
While we all vent occasionally, trying to fill the forum with a long series of lamentations, thread after thread or declarations about what is wrong in each and every place one goes, does not lend itself to creating a atmosphere where others care to come and join in the conversation.**
