Angelic Possesion

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We hear plenty about demonic possesion. What about angelic possession. Could it happen? Has anyone heard of it happening?

Or, is it counter to God’s will, because it would limit a person’s free will. Does demonic (or angelic) possession limit a person’s free will, i.e. forcing them to do things against their will?

If angelic possession of a person is impossible, then what about angelic possession of an animal. In the Gospel the demons enter a heard of swine. Could angels do similarly?

A Catholic author (sorry, can’t remember where I read it) said that only angels and men can choose to act against God’s will (when the angels did, that’s when they fell to become demons). Animals then, according to this premise, cannot choose to act against God’s will. I suppose then, that it would be unnecessary for an angel to possess an animal - what would be the point? Is it then, like God Himself “possesses” animals? This is getting a little off the title topic. Stream of consciousness posting - guilty.

Anyway… thoughts?
 
nobody said:
We hear plenty about demonic possesion. What about angelic possession. Could it happen? Has anyone heard of it happening?

Or, is it counter to God’s will, because it would limit a person’s free will. Does demonic (or angelic) possession limit a person’s free will, i.e. forcing them to do things against their will?

If angelic possession of a person is impossible, then what about angelic possession of an animal. In the Gospel the demons enter a heard of swine. Could angels do similarly?

A Catholic author (sorry, can’t remember where I read it) said that only angels and men can choose to act against God’s will (when the angels did, that’s when they fell to become demons). Animals then, according to this premise, cannot choose to act against God’s will. I suppose then, that it would be unnecessary for an angel to possess an animal - what would be the point? Is it then, like God Himself “possesses” animals? This is getting a little off the title topic. Stream of consciousness posting - guilty.

Anyway… thoughts?
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It seems to me to be contradictory for an angel to want to possess anyone (unless it’s a demonic angel) because their purpose is to carry out the will of God, and God’s will is that humans have free will. Possession would try to impose the will of the angel on the human being. God does not do that, and neither do his angels.

And why would an angel want to possess an animal, a lower form of life? That makes no sense.
 
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And why would an angel want to possess an animal, a lower form of life? That makes no sense.
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In order to help a human. Animals have saved people’s lives many times. Perhaps an angel guided them to be in the right place at the right time. But, if animals don’t act contrary to God’s will, then they would just go there, without needing any prompting.
 
nobody
We hear plenty about demonic possesion. What about angelic possession. Could it happen? Has anyone heard of it happening?
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Never heard of this happening, and I would avoid any suggestion in favor for it.

Demonic possession is where a person surrenders their will, to a demon. The deomon litterally takes it and controls them.

Free will, which is one of God’s greatest gifts to us, should never be surrendered to any other being, angelic or not.

We surrender ourselves to God in order to follow His will, but God never takes our freedom of will away in the process.

Jim
 
nobody said:
In order to help a human. Animals have saved people’s lives many times. Perhaps an angel guided them to be in the right place at the right time. But, if animals don’t act contrary to God’s will, then they would just go there, without needing any prompting.
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But that does not mean they possess them. Guidance and possession are two entirely different things. Plus, most animal rescuers are trained for the job, by humans, although most animals have highly developed instincts, and their sensory experiences are different than ours. They may see, hear, feel, smell,taste, or sense things that are not perceptible by the ordianry human and respond to those things. That does not mean, though that God cannot not direct them, in some way to a human in trouble. An angel does not need to possess an animal.
 
Some people place themselves in a vulnerable position and can be possessed because it was their choice.

There are objects and places that are portals for a demonic possession. Ouija boards are the most commonly known; drugs and many forms of “meditation” are also portals.
 
I don’t think “possession” is the right word to use, in regards to how Angels (specifically, our Guardian Angels) interact with our lives. I agree with the statement… about “angelic possession” being in conflict with God’s Will, that human beings have a free will. The term “angelic possession” seems a contradiction to the Angelic Nature… which is total obedience to God.

I do believe that our Guardian Angels protect and guide us, in a loving, spiritual manner. And have also been known to (with God’s permission, of course) intervene in human events. There are many such accounts. One I find particularly interesting is the account of St. John Bosco (aka Don Bosco) and “Il Grigio”. You might find this account interesting… link below. God bless.

fisheaters.com/animals11.html
 
Thanks, MarieVeronica, for that link. I’ve never seen that fish eaters site before - wow, lots of info - I could spend hours there. I put it on my favorites, for now, though.

I see more clearly now that angelic possession is a contradiction that would not make sense to occur. Thank you all for your (name removed by moderator)ut.
 
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In order to help a human. Animals have saved people’s lives many times. Perhaps an angel guided them to be in the right place at the right time. But, if animals don’t act contrary to God’s will, then they would just go there, without needing any prompting.
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I wonder about Balaam’s donkey? Possible case of angelic possession of an animal?
 
Nobody, you are asking a simple question with a long answer. You are really inquiring about the natures of angels, demons, and humanity. If I may, I will suggest the following books below. I’ve studied this for about 15 years now, and because of questions like these I decided to write about it myself. I’ve compliled the basics of angelology and demonology and human morality in the light of Catholic teaching and thought to answer these questions because I’ve been asked them so frequently. You can find my work entitled “Ancient Wisdom on Spiritual Warfare in the Modern Age” at stores.lulu.com/glenaitken

Other than that, the best Catholic books are by Fr. Gabriel Amorth
“An Exorcist tells his story” and “More storied from an exorcist” (I think that’s the title of his second book). The only other real places to understand angelic nature are the Churcth Fathers and St. Thomas Aquinas, but I would not recommend reading them unless you have someone who can explain how thier theologies work. hope this helps, Glen
 
I understand God giving free will, but couldn’t Angelic possession be acceptable for removing a demonic possession since demonic possessions aren’t of a persons free will? Angels do not go against God and wouldn’t go against a persons’ free will, but I think an acception would be a demonic possession.
 
ITS IMPOSSIBLE…
anyone claiming that they are possessed by an angel could be a manifestation of a devil.
 
I think that if a bad angel can possess a human, then there would be no reason as such that a good angel could not possess us. Angel is angel, good or bad. They are the same except one is bad and one is good.

Now possession and obsession by the bad angel is done for a bad reason,
namely to make that person miserable and cause all sorts of bad trouble. So for that reason a good angel would not obsess or possess a human.

Just a thought. What do you think?
 
I don’t think its impossible. I think that it is the reason God made the angels. Not only to be messengers but to be our protectors.

Demonic beings can take form of many things
But, do can angels. I don’t think its a matter of impossibilities but rather it’s of our own free will for angelic possession.
 
I don’t think this is possible… God gave us free will and the Angels are obedient to God and do His will. They guide and help us, but don’t control or take away our free will.
 
I don’t think it’s possible, either: demons don’t have much respect for the integrity of a person, hence, why they possess people. Angels, on the other hand, respect us as God’s children, whom they are charged to protect and defend. I think an angel might influence a person to do something, but I don’t think they’re allowed to get inside a person’s head.
 
Again, it does not control or interfere with a persons free will if the angel is invited in to help with the removal of a demonic being. Nor is it disobedient to God if he sent that angel or angels. A demonic possession is both disobedient and goes against free will. Angelic possession used to intervene and removal of a demon, in this would be acceptable and possible.
 
According to Wikipedia, under his bio, Malachi Martin “stated that, along with diabolic possession, angelic possession also exists and that angels could have use of preternatural powers in certain circumstances.”
 
nobody said:
We hear plenty about demonic possesion. What about angelic possession. Could it happen? Has anyone heard of it happening?

Or, is it counter to God’s will, because it would limit a person’s free will. Does demonic (or angelic) possession limit a person’s free will, i.e. forcing them to do things against their will?

If angelic possession of a person is impossible, then what about angelic possession of an animal. In the Gospel the demons enter a heard of swine. Could angels do similarly?

A Catholic author (sorry, can’t remember where I read it) said that only angels and men can choose to act against God’s will (when the angels did, that’s when they fell to become demons). Animals then, according to this premise, cannot choose to act against God’s will. I suppose then, that it would be unnecessary for an angel to possess an animal - what would be the point? Is it then, like God Himself “possesses” animals? This is getting a little off the title topic. Stream of consciousness posting - guilty.

Anyway… thoughts?
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In the actual chronicles of the famous exorcism in 1949 in St. Louis, St. Michael through the possessed boy said “Dominus” and expelled the demons. The boy saw St. Michael drive them into a firey cave and the cave sealed off. At that same moment an brillant apparition of St. Michael appeared while a Mass was being said across the street.
There are a few instances like this. However, this sort of thing is never to be sought nor wanted.
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 It is important to distinguish this rare phenomena with what New Agers call "spirit quides."   This is common in the New Age and  can lead to  full possession.  This is very dangerous and hard to heal.
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