Angelic Possesion

[slodok]

I rarely read this kind of things because there a lot of lies around. I can just talk of me and what happens to me. Angel can take control of body functions but not of soul. In year 1999 in Auckland I have been in extremely dangerous situation surrounded by some 30 gangsters on drugs and drunk with woods,chains,knifes and metal poles. One of them has risen wooden beam and tried to hit me on my head. I blocked the hit with my right hand,but from the hit my elbow broke in 7 pieces and my hand drop down holding on my skin. I sense huge pain because nerve on elbow goes directly in brain. I fell down on my knees with all this people around me saying:”Oh my god !”In that moment second hit was coming with noise of pack of wild animals around me,something happened. My pain stooped,sound went in background. My vision get weird. I was looking like from behind…like view in cinema. I definitely lost control on my body and become silent witness of the events. My body started moving without my control. My left hand picked my right hand,and my body went towards one door -entrance of the house trough all this people. In near impossible fashion this thing lock the door from the inside,against pushing of many hands. Then my body went up on some dozen stairs and lock another door entrance on the house and with voice of urgency alarmed people in the house to call police and ambulance. After that my body turn in same position like down in the yard…on my knees and than pain come back which make me to scream :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhh!After that Ambulance come. They actually have been afraid to move me 1 mm. My right hand was holding on the skin and my main nerve was not damaged. During the recovery some shrink-doctor came to “help me”.He tried to explain me how this should be fight or flight syndrome. Everyone there tried to putt in the shoe box this event as faster as possible. I have operation in Middlemore hospital where I found another angel my doctor (Now in England royal hospital) who save my hand to don’t be cut using titanium plate,screws and wire . Yes angels save me. I count total of 14 times in my life. This is just one of them. God wanted to teach me compassion,not for others but for my self. My love now is free!

 

[dribnhoj]

I have to say that in my experience in this world, that where there is a person who loves jelly beans, another will get sick at the thought of a jelly bean. Not comparing Angels and Demons to jelly beans, but where a demon will strive to possess man in defiance of “God’s Will”, others may choose to possess man in hopes that one will carry out “God’s Will”. What contradicts this, is that I don’t believe in possession, but corruption and manipulation through INFLUENCE. I just say that we as people are not born with the answers to eternity, so we are influenced to that which our hearts are opened to. If we think rotten and give in to our sorrows and hopelessness, what do we care if a “demon”, or “evil spirit” decides to use our weakness against us; to help bring forth the decay of humanity for the devils aspiration.
But what if on the other side of the spectrum, the others “angels”, “good spirits” watch in our time of need, as the hopeful, wise and intelligent, carry on a mortal burden to inspire and restore the dwindling hope of humanity. So in essence, if we were to be possessed we’d more or less be doing an Angels will and with that being said; we are influenced and guided through all the corruption to stay focused and not be tainted by dark people of a slowly darkening world. But if we were created in HIS image, wouldn’t we possess, in some fashion or another, his will and even; his ill will.
Lately I’ve been doing a lot more praying, a lot more appriciating of life and loving myself. I felt as though I gave myself to hopelessness years ago until it claimed my life while I was drinking. From there, I knew it was my hand that made this possible, but also; my intentions towards evil that made this reality tangible. Now I feel I have a good and an evil counterpart. One killed me, one kept me alive. The closer I seek to come to God, I find that the darkness lurks beneath to find anything to corrupt me. I find treasures bestowed by my own flesh and blood that will only end in nothingness, and pain. My life has always been one of disconfidence in myself, low self esteem and several addictions tied to my own demons. Yet, I am extremely smart, perseptive and honest to all those around me, even in my really bad days I served as a heart for those around me. Now, in leaving death and despair behind, I find that I am not just a good person, but a teacher for the children, I play a key role in the survival of my people. God brought me back to serve a humanity I once gave up on, to restore what I felt it lacks. Which doesn’t make me right, it just gives me comfort to come back to this earth better than I was when I left it.
I don’t know why I’m here, God does work in mysterious ways I guess. But my questions remain, and why do I feel as though in all this, should I give up, that the gate that my soul keeps at bay will break, and like a great flood; will spill sadness over the land. Last year I was nobody, now I could very well decide the fate of a people. I don’t know who to talk to I guess, that’s why I’m here. There is much I do understand, about how my emotions and thoughts are connected to a greater force; and how the good in that force is cheering me on, guiding me and pulling strings (influencing people) around me. And yet a lingering shadow follows me everywhere. It’s like in coming back I said I will live, eat and breathe as a man; but in my heart will strive as something more. We live in a harsh time, one worse than any other. I feel that hope is not at a loss, that our faith in God an eachother will always remain; but the strength to continue is slowly being forgotten. I look around, and I wonder what dream have I wondered into. Who’s life have I come into contact with. In a sense, I don’t feel like me anymore; I feel like a test subject that Good and Evil are waging bets on. So forth come the shadows and angels…

 

[perro_sarnoso]

We hear plenty about demonic possesion. What about angelic possession. Could it happen? Has anyone heard of it happening?

Or, is it counter to God’s will, because it would limit a person’s free will. Does demonic (or angelic) possession limit a person’s free will, i.e. forcing them to do things against their will?

If angelic possession of a person is impossible, then what about angelic possession of an animal. In the Gospel the demons enter a heard of swine. Could angels do similarly?

A Catholic author (sorry, can’t remember where I read it) said that only angels and men can choose to act against God’s will (when the angels did, that’s when they fell to become demons). Animals then, according to this premise, cannot choose to act against God’s will. I suppose then, that it would be unnecessary for an angel to possess an animal - what would be the point? Is it then, like God Himself “possesses” animals? This is getting a little off the title topic. Stream of consciousness posting - guilty.

Anyway… thoughts?

Hello “nobody”

The difference is clear! Angels, who are still in God’s grace…do not possess persons. Demons or…fallen angels do.

The former out of obedience and unity of will with God the Father…the others out of disobedience and rebellion against their Creator.

 

[dribnhoj]

nobody

Never heard of this happening, and I would avoid any suggestion in favor for it.

Demonic possession is where a person surrenders their will, to a demon. The deomon litterally takes it and controls them.

Free will, which is one of God’s greatest gifts to us, should never be surrendered to any other being, angelic or not.

We surrender ourselves to God in order to follow His will, but God never takes our freedom of will away in the process.

Jim

I can appriciate this quote in full. Because I know what it’s like to feel like through the eyes of a teenage adolescent who is bullied day in and day out, much like we see today in fact. And the afflicted, like myself at a point and time, lose hope. The constant bashings of a persons self and bruises on ones self esteem are vital to a child or teen; and the final answer to hopelessness when you aren’t supplied with support, becomes hate. You give yourself to that which put you in this position, you intend to fight fire with fire. And whether that fire is for your assailant or yourself, it takes you deeper throught the darkness until the sun slowly fades into the debris of what you have become, and furthermore; destroys chances of you truly finding true self. Sad to admitt. I had to deal with a lot of death, addiction and suicide to realize that God and the so called Heavens, see me and know how my heart hurt from years of hate. It took me years to realize that I am a good man beneath my exterior, and it’s something that I feel all people, especially children are entitled to. Realizing that if we are called “****”, that we can find out way through the clouds and keep walking to where we need to be. It is not that way, but in finding my path I have somehow ended up being a teacher, a guide and a innnovater of art and music for the kids. And they love me and praise me for it. My dream is that this will be my legacy, this will be what I am remembered for. And I may not be able to heal the world, but perhaps I can start small and future generations will carry my story with them through time, in time of hardship. This is my new dream.

 

[simple_soul]

I beleive that we can have possession of Angelic Powers or Demonic powers. Still not sure about being possessed though…

Anyway here are my thoughts on it. I’ve been wondering about this for a while but never really tried to put all my thoughts together about it before so if what I say comes out kind of chopped up and it seems like I bounce around a lot please bear with me…

I believe I see or understanding it like this…Angels do not have bodies like us. They are more like energies. They do not communicate with each other the way we do. They just open their minds to each other verses actually talking. (I read this some where and I believe it is true.) Even though they do not have a fiscal body like us they can take on the human form. ( I read this at the the same source but not sure I quite agree with it but it could be true and I do not rule it out.) I do believe there is a lot of truth to the saying that misery loves company but I believe it also be said that Love Joy and Peace loves company also. Just as I can see Angels rejoicing and encouraging each other and praising God in great jubilance and love with their reassurance to not be afraid I can also see Devils gleefully swarming around a poor miserable soul saying "Yes! Yes! Be afraid! Be Miserable! Be angry! Hate! Hate! Hate!
There is an order to angels. I see it as a scale. I also see it as the Ladder of Divine Ascent and as the rooms in St. Theresa of Avila’s castle and as the Kabbalah in Jewish Mysticism.
I personally believe that in order to understand Christian Mysticism on has to understand the roots of it that are ancient Jewish Mysticism. But one can not get stuck in the Jewish Mysticism. But I am getting side tracked. In the scale of Angels the ones at the throne of God are the ones that commune with Him directly and the. He filters through them to the next Angel down and then that one allows God to filter through down to the next and this continues on to the last ones and they are the ones that we come to commune with God through first. As we become stronger and adjust to God at the lower levels of Angels we the start our ascent up to the Angels who are at the foot of God’s throne. I see the scale of Devils as a scale also but it is a scale that goes downward into and endless bottomless pit of misery, chaos and confusion that only the Love and Mercy of Jesus Christ can reach into and pull us out of.

We are all born in the fallen human condition so we all have what I call luggage that we have to sort through. As we assent we learn how to allow our selves be healed through God’s Love and Mercy and the more we choose this path the more we allow our selves to be filled with the Angelic Powers and the more the Angels will do our biddings. I believe this is why Our Blessed Mother Mary is called the Queen of Angels.
The more we descend the more we allow ourselves to be filled with Satanic Powers and the more the devil does ones biddings the more of a grip he gets on you. Yes I can see how souls filled with hate and misery can get devils to inflict hate and misery on others. This is why those who do not want to be filled with hate and misery call upon the Angels to defend them in the hour of battle. This is also why calling on God and the Blessed Virgin Mary helps us to be filled with Angelic Powers but also how to use the Angelic Powers to defeat the devil and his minions.

I do believe though that the one big thing that we need to keep in perspective here is our human condition. Some of us, because of the sins of our parents, and I am talking about generations upon generations upon generations of sin being handed down makes the progress up the Angelic Ladder of Ascent seem like very slow progress. But the descent can be so fast. It is a daily battle we all have to do our best to fight and I can see that as each generation chooses to be filled with these Angelic Powers the closer we are carried up to the throne of God. You can see this with families like St. Theresa of Lisieux…

Anyway this is my fist attempt to try and write my thoughts on Angels and Demons and how they effect us. I am sure it will need some tweaks and corrections as my reading on the subject is limited…so take with a grain of salt and please add any insight into my thoughts here because I would like to understand it more clearly…

 

[simple_soul]

I should add that the way I see us ascending this choire of Angels it to follow The Blessed Mother Mary to Her Son, Jesus Christ and He takes to not just the Throne of God but To God Himself. And of course this is all attained through the Divine Love and Mercy of God.

 

[CompSciGuy]

We hear plenty about demonic possesion. What about angelic possession. Could it happen? Has anyone heard of it happening?

It’s called the Holy Spirit.
But you are correct on one thing: God will not compromise our free will.

 

[PetrusRomanus]

We can be inspired by the Holy Spirit, which I think if its so intense we begin to resemble Jesus more and more in our thoughts, words, and actions.

So in a way the Holy Spirit “possesses” us IMO.