Angels Choosing Not to Serve God

[Vico]

Since God is outside time, and is in the eternal now, and the eternal now means that no change is possible, and if the angels are also outside of time, how was it possible for the angels who fell, and became demons, to choose something that caused a change (the change being that they made the decision to no longer serve God and thus fell from heaven)?

Angels are created spiritual beings, created at the beginning of time.

Denzinger, Sources of Catholic Dogma:

Lateran Council IV 1215

Ecumenical XII (against the Albigensians, Joachim, Waldensians etc.

The Trinity, Sacraments, Canonical Mission, etc.*

Chap. 1. The Catholic Faith

(Definition directed against the Albigensians and other heretics]

428 Firmly we believe and we confess simply that the true God is one alone, eternal, immense, and unchangeable, incomprehensible, omnipotent and ineffable, Father and Son and Holy Spirit: indeed three Persons but one essence, substance, or nature entirely simple. The Father from no one, the Son from the Father only, and the Holy Spirit equally from both; without beginning, always, and without end; the Father generating, the Son being born, and the Holy Spirit proceeding; consubstantial and coequal and omnipotent and coeternal; one beginning of all, creator of all visible and invisible things, of the spiritual and of the corporal; who by His own omnipotent power at once from the beginning of time created each creature from nothing, spiritual, and corporal, namely, angelic and mundane, and finally the human, constituted as it were, alike of the spirit and the body. For the devil and other demons were created by God good in nature, but they themselves through themselves have become wicked. But man sinned at the suggestion of the devil. This Holy Trinity according to common essence undivided, and according to personal properties distinct, granted the doctrine of salvation to the human race, first through Moses and the holy prophets and his other servants according to the most methodical disposition of the time.

And Session III Vatican Council
1783 The act of creation in itself, and in opposition to modern errors, and the effect of creation] . This sole true God by His goodness and “omnipotent power,” not to increase His own beatitude, and not to add to, but to manifest His perfection by the blessings which He bestows on creatures, with most free volition, “immediately from the beginning of time fashioned each creature out of nothing, spiritual and corporeal, namely angelic and mundane; and then the human creation, common as it were, composed of both spirit and body” [Lateran Council IV, see n. 428; can. 2 and 5]

 

[HabemusFrancis]

I think it was pure pride.

They couldn’t stand the fact God would love humans more than them so they refused to serve Him as they should have and still should.

It just shows they did not have much of a sense of self-preservation when it gets down to it.

 

[mikekle]

I think it was pure pride.

They couldn’t stand the fact God would love humans more than them so they refused to serve Him as they should have and still should.

It just shows they did not have much of a sense of self-preservation when it gets down to it.

The problem is, in order for mankind to have free will, there must be an alternative to God…for there to be a choice, there must be at least 2 options to select from, one being God, and one being an ‘alternative’ to God (a good choice and a bad choice).

What happens if you take ‘the bad choice’ out of the equation…there is no choice anymore, since there is nothing else to choose.

If ‘the fall’ did not happen, free will could not exist in the form we know it.