Angels n Saints

[cherubim]

Is it true that christians(non-catholics)don’t believe in angels and saints while they’re clearly described in the Holy Bible?
I am as catholic have experienced many miraculous events through my Patron Saints’ and Guardian Angel’s intercession.My life has been changing to the best since then spiritually.

Pax Christi!

 

[1ke]

One can never make a blanket statement about “Protestants” since each denomination is different.

However, in general, Protestants acknowledge the *existence *of angels and saints in heaven. They do not acknowledge the Communion of Saints or *intercession *of saints and angels.

 

[brosam]

Is it true that christians(non-catholics)don’t believe in angels and saints while they’re clearly described in the Holy Bible?

First of all, thank you for having the courage to go against your religion and acknowledge us as Christians.

Yes, we do believe in angels. And we do believe in saints.

However, we believe the Bible’s teaching that all born against believers are saints but not in the Roman Catholic teaching that some special people are designated saints after their death and given supernatural authority over specific areas of life.

I am as catholic have experienced many miraculous events through my Patron Saints’ and Guardian Angel’s intercession.My life has been changing to the best since then spiritually.

Pax Christi!

You say that this is described in the Bible. May I ask where the Bible says anything about “patron saints”?

 

[brosam]

However, in general, Protestants acknowledge the *existence *of angels and saints in heaven. They do not acknowledge the Communion of Saints or *intercession *of saints and angels.

We believe that the saints pray for us. However, because the Bible strictly condemns praying to the dead, we do not pray to them.

 

[dmelosi]

First of all, thank you for having the courage to go against your religion and acknowledge us as Christians.

Yes, we do believe in angels. And we do believe in saints.

However, we believe the Bible’s teaching that all born against believers are saints but not in the Roman Catholic teaching that some special people are designated saints after their death and given supernatural authority over specific areas of life.

You say that this is described in the Bible. May I ask where the Bible says anything about “patron saints”?

This is the first time I have heard this misconception about our faith. I don’t know of a Catholic who says that protestants are not Christians.

 

[puzzleannie]

Is it true that christians(non-catholics)don’t believe in angels and saints while they’re clearly described in the Holy Bible?
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impossible to state what any individual non-Catholic believes about saints and angels. Why not ask representatives of the denomination you are wondering about? Any Christian denomination who accepts and professes the apostles creed also professes a belief in the communion of saints. Not all such bodies do profess any creed, or require it as a condition of membership. Even those who do profess belief in saints and angels do not usually accept the Catholic notion of intercessory prayer to the saints, or of an individual guardian angel assigned to each person. There are as many different beliefs on this topic as their are denominations.

 

[puzzleannie]

First of all, thank you for having the courage to go against your religion and acknowledge us as Christians.

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Catholic teaching absolutely does identify all validly baptized persons as Christian, no matter what denominational belief they profess, this is an article of faith, and a matter of canon law as well.

 

[brosam]

This is the first time I have heard this misconception about our faith. I don’t know of a Catholic who says that protestants are not Christians.

It’s very common. Even your pope came out and declared us to be non-Christians.

I would also encourage you to look in to the Roman Catholic teaching of ex ecclesia nulla salas.

 

[brosam]

Catholic teaching absolutely does identify all validly baptized persons as Christian, no matter what denominational belief they profess, this is an article of faith, and a matter of canon law as well.

Well, that’s great! I can’t wait to get to my local Roman Catholic church and take communion with my fellow Christians.

 

[ThereseMarie]

It’s very common. Even your pope came out and declared us to be non-Christians.

More MADE UP stuff. I wish you could quote His Holiness for us. But you can’t. You, once again, MADE IT UP!*

 

[dmelosi]

It’s very common. Even your pope came out and declared us to be non-Christians.

I would also encourage you to look in to the Roman Catholic teaching of ex ecclesia nulla salas.

Can you share where the pope said this? I would think that you wouldn’t just make this up, but would be interested in what source you used for this.

 

[dmelosi]

Well, that’s great! I can’t wait to get to my local Roman Catholic church and take communion with my fellow Christians.

You are really going from one extreme to the other, I suggest you cover 1 topic at a time. You obviously have many misconseptions about our faith.

 

[dmelosi]

It’s very common. Even your pope came out and declared us to be non-Christians.

I would also encourage you to look in to the Roman Catholic teaching of ex ecclesia nulla salas.

I would suggest you look at it from what Catholics actually teach. You need to ask on here what the Catholic teaching really is instead of getting your information from obvious anti Catholic sources.

 

[ThereseMarie]

Can you share where the pope said this? I would think that you wouldn’t just make this up, but would be interested in what source you used for this.

Yawn

Cricket, cricket

Told you he couldn’t do it.

You should check out his posts from yesterday. There’s more MADE UP stuff there too.

 

[dmelosi]

Yawn

Cricket, cricket

Told you he couldn’t do it.

You should check out his posts from yesterday. There’s more MADE UP stuff there too.

I see now, I thought that maybe from the first post here that he wasn’t one of those people so close minded that he would actually search the truth. But so far, sure doesn’t look that way.

 

[brosam]

I would suggest you look at it from what Catholics actually teach. You need to ask on here what the Catholic teaching really is instead of getting your information from obvious anti Catholic sources.

The Vatican is an anti-Roman Catholic source?

 

[puzzleannie]

It’s very common. Even your pope came out and declared us to be non-Christians.

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No he did not, in fact in his most recent statement on this topic echoing his predecessors he stated exactly the opposite.

“no salvation outside the Church” does not equate to “no salvation to those who are not Catholic”. All the baptized are in the Church, even those not in full communion. The statement also does not exclude those who have never been evangelized and baptized, and a fuller reading of the document itself, and the recent elaborations by both Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict will make this quite clear.

However, this is not the thread topic, so may we please return to that topic?

 

[brosam]

“no salvation outside the Church” does not equate to “no salvation to those who are not Catholic”. All the baptized are in the Church, even those not in full communion.

Swell. I can’t wait to head on down to my local Roman Catholic church this weekend and take the Eucharist with my fellow Christians.

The statement also does not exclude those who have never been evangelized and baptized, and a fuller reading of the document itself, and the recent elaborations by both Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict will make this quite clear.

I think he was pretty clear already when he said that we don’t have the means of salvation.

 

[MarcoPolo]

Swell. I can’t wait to head on down to my local Roman Catholic church this weekend and take the Eucharist with my fellow Christians.

Been reading some of your posts. Before you speak again, may I recommend learning what the Catholic Church actually teaches first instead of trying to tear down your derogatory version of it.

 

[cherubim]

First of all, thank you for having the courage to go against your religion and acknowledge us as Christians.

Yes, we do believe in angels. And we do believe in saints.

However, we believe the Bible’s teaching that all born against believers are saints but not in the Roman Catholic teaching that some special people are designated saints after their death and given supernatural authority over specific areas of life.

You say that this is described in the Bible. May I ask where the Bible says anything about “patron saints”?

Hi brosam,

You misunderstood me concerning the patron saints in the bible.It doesn’t mention about the patron saints.I mentioned about saints/holy souls are described in the Holy Bible.In the Holy Bible in the last chapter(the revelation)it’s mentioned about the holy souls.The holy souls are christians who lived to the fullest according to the our Lord Jesus’ teaching while they’re on earth.

I hope it’ll clear up the misunderstanding

God bless