S
silent_celt
Guest
It is my belief that God made humans in his likeness and his image he also loved humans so much that he sent his son to redeem us he did not do that for fallen angels so I believe that humans are superior.
- Status
E
EZweber
Guest
The nature of our fall was different. When an angel makes a choice, it is irrevocable. Because of this, it would be impossible to redeem a fallen angel. Our choices, however, can be revoked, so God can invite us to repent. Once we die, we will also make an irrevocable choice. This is also why souls in Hell cannot be redeemed.
po18guy
Well-known member
Well, we are corporal beings, whereas angels are pure spirit. They can sense only the spiritual while we can sense both the spiritual as well as the sensory. Having said that, it seems that a much higher percentage of spirits chose to serve God. Haven’t checked the catechism on this, but although the angels have and retain free will, something about their wills is different from ours. Theirs being free, but now immutable. There’s one for the philosophers!
Last edited:
P
PetraG
Guest
What’s the point of looking for some sense of superiority that is based on anything that we have nothing to do with?
“But may I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.” Gal 6:14
S
silent_celt
Guest
No not really looking for superiority but surely God has made some things as well as beings superior to other then why? God is both a sprit and sensory and more but why are we told that humans no others are made in his image and his likeness. AND really all things made by GOD are superior in there own right.
S
silent_celt
Guest
Yes but that does not answer the question that our holy bible say GOD made man in his image and likeness so what do we think he made angels for like humans to know him and to love him but still we know we are different than angels and humans are said to be made in his image and his likeness
Last edited:
F
Fauken
Guest
Do you think the angels were not created by God? Why?
E
EZweber
Guest
In what way are we in “the image and likeness of God?” It is certainly not physical. I would say that we are in the image and likeness of God because we can know and will, which angels can as well.
V
Vico
Guest
St. Thomas Aquinas wrote his thoughts on it, that angels were superior to man intellectually, but:
Summa Theologiae, I, Question 93.
http://www.newadvent.org/summa/1093.htm
S
silent_celt
Guest
The Great Saint Thomas is so for above my ability to understand that out of necessity I must concede to what ever he has to say .You see I am just a simple person and read that we are made in the image and likeness of God and I believe we are different that angels so what does it mean about angels and humans. I think we underestimate our own creation maybe we must respect angels as God special creations but not in his image and likeness we have dropped the ball on our end except for the saints who have found a way to live up to our true nature
Last edited:
S
silent_celt
Guest
of course they were created by God who we know created all but he gave us the bible and it says we are created in his image and his likeness that being said we know we are different from angels . God created all things seen and un seen present past and for all time
Last edited:
T
TK421
Guest
No, we’re not superior.
S
silent_celt
Guest
Well please answer me this we know the Blessed Virgin Mother Mary is in heaven body and soul .She is what we were meant to be but original sin causes us to be in defect she is not she is the unstained image and likeness of God . If we live a virtuous life we may with God grace become a saint and at the second coming once again become the true human God wants us to be different from angels who are not the image and likeness of God as we are called to be.
Last edited:
E
EZweber
Guest
As I said before, angels would be in the image and likeness of God as well.
S
silent_celt
Guest
I admit to being small minded but if human being are different from angels and angels different from humans than how can they also be alike?
Last edited:
T
TK421
Guest
God wants angels to be angels and men to be men. Men should not want to be angels and angels should not want to be men.
Last edited:
E
EZweber
Guest
They can certainly be alike in some ways and not in others. When we say we are made in the image and likeness of God, it doesn’t mean we are exactly like God. We are similar; in different ways than the angels are similar. In fact, our closest similarity with the angels is that we are both made in this way.
PS. No need to say that you are small minded. An enquiring mind open to the truth is never small.
Last edited:
T
tafan2
Guest
interesting topic, thanks for posting the Angelic Doctor’s thoughts. Man is the epitome of God’s material creation. But not necessarily of all of His Creation. One cannot really place angels per se as superior or lesser than man. Indeed even among the Angels, one cannot say this. Are the seraphim lesser than the arch angels? Besides, each and every angel is its own species. They fall into choirs based on their function, not on their form.
A
Aquinas11
Guest
Aquinas said angels are to us like we are to animals - sometimes we can see an animal is on a dangerous path or is sick and can intervene to help it. Maybe we see a frog hopping on a road and see he’s about to get flattened so when no car is coming we gently pick him up and put him in grass. Angels see us in danger too (and like the frog who can’t see us while we’re watching them - we can’t see them or that we’re in danger) and intervene to help us
Last edited:
S
silent_celt
Guest
I think of our Blessed Mother she is what we should have been with out the stain of original sin. So she being our perfect example of a human was taken body and soul into heaven to be made queen .
Last edited:
- Status