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Are Catholics allowed to purchase books published by Angelus Press which is “a publication house of the Society of St. Pius X.” I am interested in buying a copy of the 1962 Roman Missal, and I noticed that the Angelus Press version is slightly cheaper than the other, but I don’t want to spend money to support a schismatic group. On the Amazon.com page someone wrote a review of the Missal, and said that the FSSP buy Missals from Angelus, but then went on to say that it is fine to attend SSPX Masses, and to “give a donation out of respect during Mass.” Check out the review here, just scroll down to the review portion of the page:

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On 8 February 2007, the President of the Ecclesia Dei Commission, Cardinal Hoyos, said "The Bishops, Priests and the Faithful of the Society of St Pius X are not schismatics. It is Archbishop Lefebrve who has undertaken an illicit Episcopal consecration and therefore performed a schismatic act. It is for this reason that the Bishops consecrated by him have been suspended and excommunicated. **The Priests and faithful of the Society have not been excommunicated. They are not heretics. **
I don’t attend or know anyone that is a member of the Society of St. Pius X I just wanted to set the record straight here when you referred to them as a schismatics, their not. You can attend their Mass if that was the only one availabe for you and you don’t break with Rome.
 
Excerpt from Ecclesia Dei

c) In the present circumstances I wish especially to make an appeal both solemn and heartfelt, paternal and fraternal, to all those who until now have been linked in various ways to the movement of Archbishop Lefebvre, **that they may fulfill the grave duty of remaining united to the vicar of Christ in the unity of the Catholic Church and *of ceasing their support in any way for that movement/*B]. Everyone should be aware that formal adherence to the schism is a grave offense against God and carries the penalty of excommunication decreed by the church’s law.[8]
Code: 
To all those Catholic faithful who feel attached to some previous liturgical and disciplinary forms of the Latin tradition, I wish to manifest my will to facilitate their ecclesial communion by means of the necessary measures to guarantee respect for their rightful aspirations. In this matter I ask for the support of the bishops and of all those engaged in the pastoral ministry in the church.
  1. Taking account of the importance and complexity of the problems referred to in this document, by virtue of my apostolic authority I decree the following:

    a) A commission is instituted whose task it will be to collaborate with the bishops, with the departments of the Roman Curia and with the circles concerned, for the purpose of facilitating full ecclesial communion of priests, seminarians, religious communities or individuals until now linked in various ways to the society founded by Archbishop Lefebvre who may wish to remain united to the successor of Peter in the Catholic Church while preserving their spiritual and liturgical traditions in the light of the protocol signed on last May 5 by Cardinal Ratzinger and Archbishop Lefebvre.

    b) This commission is composed of a cardinal-president and other members of the Roman Curia, in a number that will be deemed opportune according to circumstances.

    c) Moreover, respect must everywhere by shown for the feelings of all those who are attached to the Latin liturgical tradition by a wide and generous application of the directives already issued some time ago by the Apostolic See for the use of the Roman Missal according to the typical edition of 1962.[9]
  2. As this year specially dedicated to the Blessed Virgin is now drawing to a close, I wish to exhort all to join in unceasing prayer, which the vicar of Christ, through the intercession of the mother of the church, addresses to the Father in the very words of the Son: “That they all may be one!”
Given at Rome, at St. Peter’s, July 2, 1988, the 10th year of the pontificate. John Paul II

Being sensitive to the Tridentine Mass is not synonymous with being sensitive to the schism.:)**
 
Uxor said:
On 8 February 2007, the President of the Ecclesia Dei Commission, Cardinal Hoyos, said "The Bishops, Priests and the Faithful of the Society of St Pius X are not schismatics. It is Archbishop Lefebrve who has undertaken an illicit Episcopal consecration and therefore performed a schismatic act. It is for this reason that the Bishops consecrated by him have been suspended and excommunicated. **The Priests and faithful of the Society have not been excommunicated. They are not heretics. **
I don’t attend or know anyone that is a member of the Society of St. Pius X I just wanted to set the record straight here when you referred to them as a schismatics, their not. You can attend their Mass if that was the only one availabe for you and you don’t break with Rome.
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Its best not to muddy the waters…:tsktsk:

Read on here: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=119400
 
Mary_Henley said:
I hope that this is not taken as muddying the waters either.
The above quote shows us the mind of Our Holy Father to cease supporting these groups in any way…I understand this to mean monetary as well.:o
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Then I suggest you cease supporting any of the mainstream newspapers in the U.S. Most, if not all, are pro-abortion, pro-homosexual rights, and have no problem bashing the Catholic church.
 
Thanks for the advice…but as my hubby always tells me…way ahead of you bubba:D
 
timjp77 said:
Then I suggest you cease supporting any of the mainstream newspapers in the U.S. Most, if not all, are pro-abortion, pro-homosexual rights, and have no problem bashing the Catholic church.
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Well, if Mary withdrew her newspaper subscription, I kinda doubt that would result in any monetary crisis for the publisher.
 
papa_k said:
Sure. I will be glad to repeat myself.

About 5 years ago they ran a cover with a picture of PJPII on it, and in big black letters it said “WE DEFY YOU TO YOUR FACE!”

The guy basically solicited for opinions about Angelus, and I gave mine. I used to read Angelus a lot, but I quite doing that. In my opinion it is an arm of the SSPX, and its job is ripping the second Vat council. It’s audience is probably mostly sspx people. They “get” the lingo and know the brand well enough to find the pandering that fits their own little niche.

You can read them online if you want. Form your own opinions. I don’t really care if you agree with me personally. I don’t have to waste any more time defending addressing the various former catholic groups that pop up here or there with their little magazinges and newsletters.

Here’s a nice little gem though.

angelusonline.org/Article3513.phtml
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Are you as careful when you buy stuff from or donate to organizations that support birth control or gay rights?

Just curious.
 
timjp77 said:
Then I suggest you cease supporting any of the mainstream newspapers in the U.S. Most, if not all, are pro-abortion, pro-homosexual rights, and have no problem bashing the Catholic church.
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I believe the software maker of the operating system most of us use is a huge contributor to Family Planning. Time to toss our computers away, I guess.
 
There is a difference between making an informed decision based on religious and morals beliefs, or just making a purchase.

I will not buy things from nor support gay rights, pro-choice, abortion rights based on their rather vocal stands.
I will not buy nor make purchases from any religious group that has separated themselves from Holy Mother Church by their rather vocal condemnations of Her teaching or the Holy Father, the Vicar of Christ.
If these groups operate under other umbrella names I am not obligated to research each and every purchase I make.
If there are any theologians in ***Union with Rome ***who would like to comment on this …please help me out.
 
I find the Angelus Press Missal far superior to the Baronius Press Missal. Some of the works published by Angelus are very biased (for example, the Angelus version of the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius lists attending the Novus Ordo Mass as a sin), but the Missals and Breviaries are completely neutral.
 
TNT said:
Why? I have the Communist Manifesto, Mein Kampf and the Quran (Loved on by JPII).
Is the Church hierarchy immune from Critique?
Just curious.
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They forget that Paul VI threw away the List of Forbidden Books, which had been mortal sins for Catholics to read. Thus people could read heresies written by Hans Kung and his cohorts.

But it works both ways. As does the current Canon Law.
 
Uxor said:
On 8 February 2007, the President of the Ecclesia Dei Commission, Cardinal Hoyos, said "The Bishops, Priests and the Faithful of the Society of St Pius X are not schismatics. It is Archbishop Lefebrve who has undertaken an illicit Episcopal consecration and therefore performed a schismatic act. It is for this reason that the Bishops consecrated by him have been suspended and excommunicated. **The Priests and faithful of the Society have not been excommunicated. They are not heretics. **
I don’t attend or know anyone that is a member of the Society of St. Pius X I just wanted to set the record straight here when you referred to them as a schismatics, their not. You can attend their Mass if that was the only one availabe for you and you don’t break with Rome.
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This is very strange. You refuse to call them schismatics when Lefebvre himself calls us schismatics. The late Archbp. Lefebvre is quoted on Angelus Online that accused us (termed the “Conciliar” Church) as being the ones who are in schism.
“This Conciliar Church is a schismatic Church, because it breaks with the Catholic Church that has always been. It has its new dogmas, its new priesthood, its new institutions, its new worship, all already condemned by the Church in many a document, official and definitive. This Conciliar Church is schismatic, because it has taken as a basis for its updating principles opposed to those of the Catholic Church.” (6/29/76)
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Angelus Press anyone?
 
RobedWithLight said:
This is very strange. You refuse to call them schismatics when Lefebvre himself calls us schismatics. The late Archbp. Lefebvre is quoted on Angelus Online that accused us (termed the “Conciliar” Church) as being the ones who are in schism.

Angelus Press anyone?
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Me, I’d go with what Cardinal Hoyos said, before I’d go with what Lefebvre said. 😉
 
RobedWithLight said:
This is very strange. You refuse to call them schismatics when Lefebvre himself calls us schismatics. The late Archbp. Lefebvre is quoted on Angelus Online that accused us (termed the “Conciliar” Church) as being the ones who are in schism.

Angelus Press anyone?
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I quoted what the President of the Ecclesia Dei Commission, Cardinal Hoyos, said.
 
Uxor said:
I quoted what the President of the Ecclesia Dei Commission, Cardinal Hoyos, said.
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Nearly everyone here in the TC forum knows what Cardinal Hoyos said. I was merely contrasting it with Lefebvre’s own statement quoted in Angelus Online.
 
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