Anger causes so many problems

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Most of the sins I commit usually are the result of getting angry over some issue - something that someone said to me or something I failed at doing properly.
I pray for others and for myself today that I am able to be calm and know that God is there trying to help me conquer life.
 
Patience and self restraint are great virtues. It takes time to recognize the triggers of anger and avoid them.
 
Joe,
Anger is a human emotion. Emotions are neither right or wrong. What matters is what you do when you are angry.

I don’t think we conquer life. We submit to it and rely on God’s help. You might start saying the prayer they use at AA meetings.
Lord give me strength to change the things I can change. Give me courage to accept those things i can not change. Give me wisdom to know the difference. Or something like that.
 
Perhaps you could pray 'Lord, make me a calm and gentle person", not only when you get angry etc. but just as a prayer throughout your usual day.
 
I actually do not let my anger out enough. I know when to temper my anger, but more often than not with society in general I wish I could let loose my anger a lot more often than not. At least standing toe to toe.

I am way way to nice and cordial in real life and I barely let loose online, well, I let loose more often on un moderated forums where it is a platform of don’t get in the kitchen if you cant stand the heat. Here, I find myself having to practice restraint, restraint to not get sucked up in the punch happy gotcha games and useless debates and one upping the previous snarky religious driven insult. Letting most people hang themselves with their own rope does wonders and leaves them wondering if they really won with their brilliant retorts or not and not being able to comprehend that I just don’t care enough to follow up to read peoples responses more often than not.

Anger though is needed in my life, I welcome it more often than not. He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword. Is brilliant, because it is a wonderful spot on statement. An there is nothing wrong living by the sword. Especially if there is a cause worth living by the sword. Which there are not many.
 
Most of the sins I commit usually are the result of getting angry over some issue - something that someone said to me or something I failed at doing properly.
I pray for others and for myself today that I am able to be calm and know that God is there trying to help me conquer life.
And the feeling of anger is driven from thwarted desires. And vengence may arise from envy or jealousy – once again desires. So it is important to check disorderly desires.
 
anger is by no means driven from thwarted desires, it is complex and can come from many areas in life. Less one wants to try an say, one is angry from a loved one being murdered some how falls into a thwarted desire that they didn’t get to murder said loved one ? or perhaps anger at injustice in the world and wanting to change it and make the world a better place. Either way anger is not a disorder nor a desire, it is an emotion. trying to personify an emotion just distorts the emotion.

or perhaps we just chalk up what ya said, as a dig to me, because your reply to JoeS doesn’t make a lick of sense in regards to what Joe said, but if we change it to a response into what I stated, it sort of makes sense, but still doesn’t.

Joes statement is merely his or her reflection on what he or she went through.

An if anger was really a thwarted desire, or a disorder, then exactly what did Jesus do when He made that whip and drove the crooks out of the temple, flipping tables over and etc. Because that action, if put into context is a reaction of anger. Not a reaction of calmness and peace and pacifism and love.

Like saying guns are bad, guns kill.

what ever though.

Glitter burps all over the place.
 
Anger and guilt are like smoke detectors. Guilt tells you when you have the bodily sense that you’ve done wrong. Anger is your bodily sense that you have witnessed a wrong.

If you want to turn down your “wrong detector,” the answer is to adjust your expectations. For instance, you say you get angry when you fail to do something properly. This is because you expect yourself to do things right every time. Is that a realistic expectation? If it is (because you’re in a profession in which certain mistakes simply may not be made), then have you given yourself a realistic chance to reliably achieve at such a high level? More likely, it isn’t realistic. More likely, you’re getting angry at yourself for something that you recognize would be making you a jerk if you were to get angry about someone else for the same thing. Likewise, why do you expect other people are going to exercise good judgment about what they say and do all the time? They’re not. It is OK to get a realistic gauge of what level people operate at and then expect that means they aren’t going to say what they ought to say or do what they ought to do every time.

You are not going to “conquer life,” if that means never making mistakes. You’re never going to conquer life at all. The goal is to allow the Holy Spirit–the gifts of the Holy Spirit, the fruits of the Holy Spirit–to conquer you. That doesn’t mean you’ll never get angry. It means when you get angry there will really be a wrong that needs to be righted in no uncertain terms.

I guess I’d suggest, when you get angry, to ask yourself this: “What expectation did I have that is being violated? Was it realistic? Am I reacting with frustration in a pointless or counter-productive way when I could be choosing to respond in a way that will make the situation better instead of worse?” If you learn to stop and listen to your anger, you’ll make better use of that faculty–and the emotion of anger is a faculty, not a sin.
 
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I think a little one-on-one quality time with the Prince of Peace would do you a world of good (Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament). Well did our Lord know anger - which is a passion and, by itself, is morally neutral. It’s proper use is to oppose evil. The problem is that we use it in situations that do not involve evil, but rather, ego.
 
Well did our Lord know anger - which is a passion and, by itself, is morally neutral. It’s proper use is to oppose evil.
Justified anger. For us humans, anger at the injustice being inflicted on another by another. It should be aimed at the deed and not the perpetrator - not always easy to separate/do in all circumstances especially if we are the injured party.
The problem is that we use it in situations that do not involve evil, but rather, ego.
e.g when our pride (sense of self-worth) has been injured.

Edited to add:- I was told years ago that anger ie the emotion is not a sin, (otherwise joy which is an emotion would also be a sin), but what we do with that emotion is where the sin lies - think/speak uncharitably, take revenge, strike out at another etc.
 
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And the feeling of anger is driven from thwarted desires. And vengence may arise from envy or jealousy – once again desires. So it is important to check disorderly desires.
(Just found this in this link—was helpful—you might like it too. 🤔


Anger, the desire of vengeance. Its ethical rating depends upon the quality of the vengeance and the quantity of the passion. When these are in conformity with the prescriptions of balanced reason, anger is not a sin. It is rather a praiseworthy thing and justifiable with a proper zeal. It becomes sinful when it is sought to wreak vengeance upon one who has not deserved it, or to a greater extent than it has been deserved, or in conflict with the dispositions of law, or from an improper motive. The sin is then in a general sense mortal as being opposed to justice and charity. It may, however, be venial because the punishment aimed at is but a trifling one or because of lack of full deliberation. Likewise, anger is sinful when there is an undue vehemence in the passion itself, whether inwardly or outwardly. Ordinarily it is then accounted a venial sin unless the excess be so great as to go counter seriously to the love of God or of one’s neighbor.

JOSEPH F. DELANY
 
Anger is something that I really struggle with. However its usually aimed at myself. I can recall incidents from childhood right up to the present day and when I dwell on them I often get angry and from time to time self harm.

Its as if I can get stuck in a loop of reliving past events. Thinking about what I should of said or done. And then I get angry and if its really bad then the only way to stop the loop is to cause physical harm to myself. That seams to in someway make it better. (This really isn’t something that I recommend)

I have had some professional help with this and one thing thats helped is being told that you can’t control thoughts coming into your head however you don’t have to act on them.

Praying the rosary is also a great help for me (might not help others) in that it has a calming influence.

Alex
 
anger is by no means driven from thwarted desires, …
Since I wrote: “the feeling of anger” (the noun) then we are in agreement that “anger is not a disorder nor a desire, it is an emotion”. As an example of driving, the desire could be for justice, which would not be a disordered desire. As another example, to covet, can be disordered desire, depending upon what is desired.
 
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