Anglican Branch Theory?

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Indifferently said:
New man converted because he was a homosecual, as we’re many other Anglo Catholic priests and monastics. The Church of England in th Victorian era didn’t like this sort of thing, so many of them went over to Rome before the evangelicals blew the lid on the whole thing.
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Please tell me you have some sort of source/reference/link to something on this.
I’ve never heard this view of Newman. Is this some sort of conjecture of your own?
 
Malleorum_Deus said:
Please tell me you have some sort of source/reference/link to something on this.
I’ve never heard this view of Newman. Is this some sort of conjecture of your own?
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It’s the same sort of hogwash you hear about King David and Jonathan in the Old Testament. A certain sort of modern mind feels that the only sort of intimacy possible between two people is sexual intimacy. Thus when there is a strong lifelong bond between two men in history one presumes sodomy must have been a part of it. Sigh.
 
Thanks for that explanation…I did some reading and now I’m piecing together this theory.

Maybe there was a threat of “blowing the lid” off the story, but only in the form of slanderous threats???
 
Malleorum_Deus said:
Thanks for that explanation…I did some reading and now I’m piecing together this theory.

Maybe there was a threat of “blowing the lid” off the story, but only in the form of slanderous threats???
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More like Newmann had a “Jonathan” friend of his own long before people worried about how such things looked. How’d it get to be “manly” not to need lifelong close friends, anyways?

It’s not just a gay issue either. The same sort of mindset suspects that St. Francis and St. Clare must have been lovers too. Sheesh.
 
Newman was well aware of what was going on. The creepy story of his burial with his “very special friend” is enough, but there is more to the story. It’s also very curious that am an brought up in the austere, musculsr English Church of the 19th century would be drawn to the camp ceremonial and lacy vestments abounding in Rome in the same period. Newman was most likely engagee in some interesting things with Fr Ambrose St John, and especially interesting was his attraction to alleged priestly celibacy.
 
Indifferently said:
Newman was well aware of what was going on. The creepy story of his burial with his “very special friend” is enough, but there is more to the story. It’s also very curious that am an brought up in the austere, musculsr English Church of the 19th century would be drawn to the camp ceremonial and lacy vestments abounding in Rome in the same period. Newman was most likely engagee in some interesting things with Fr Ambrose St John, and especially interesting was his attraction to alleged priestly celibacy.
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None of which is proven, and is poisoning the well.

GKC
 
But seriously …
GKC said:
That’s not how I’ve seen Branch theory explicated. But what did the term “eat” as replaced by “subsist in” refer to?
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I’m sure he meant “est”.
 
FireDragon76 said:
Not every Anglo-Catholic subscribes to the Branch Theory, though its one common view, it’s not without its critics. Much of Anglicanism is like a very generous version of Eastern Orthodoxy.
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I’m inclined to disagree with you there – but then, I suppose it’s only natural that different people would have different perspectives. As a Catholics, I like to think that we are the ones who are very close to Eastern Orthodoxy.

I guess you could call us “A very papal version of Eastern Orthodoxy.” 🙂
 
Indifferently said:
There are four marks to the Church - One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic. Anglicans are unique in that the English Reformation preserved all four despite the odds against it. Women’s ordination, a devil’s doctrine, is sabotating this, however, but the fight back is well underway.
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I’m curious on the bolded portion above. I’m aware of some of the re-alignments that have occurred (e.g., ACNA), but are there other developments on this front, that you could share with us?
 
Indifferently said:
Newman was well aware of what was going on. The creepy story of his burial with his “very special friend” is enough, but there is more to the story. It’s also very curious that am an brought up in the austere, musculsr English Church of the 19th century would be drawn to the camp ceremonial and lacy vestments abounding in Rome in the same period. Newman was most likely engagee in some interesting things with Fr Ambrose St John, and especially interesting was his attraction to alleged priestly celibacy.
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Seriously, man. I’m embarassed for you. 😊
 
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