Anglican Breviary

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Thomas More:
Here’s that the Anglican Breviary website says, on differences b/w it and the Roman Breviary;

“Propers are given for one or two particularly Anglican feasts. On the feast of the Immaculate Conception, an Anglican essay on Our Lady’s spotlessness is substituted for the Papal Bull.”

Should that bother me? It’s probably all doctrinally solid . . . they don’t have any “Praise Henry VIII, he is so cool” stuff in it, do they??
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I’m very fond of it myself and I don’t think it’s too much to say that Fr Gavin produced a work of art in that volume. But it really is too much to say, as I see repeated so often, that it is merely the old Roman Breviary in English. TAB certainly follows the format of the old Roman Breviary and keeps to the 1955 rubrics with only a few simplifications. But there are significant differences.

The collects for Sunday and the prayer book feast days are those of the Book of Common Prayer not those of the Roman Breviary. Particularly in the beginning of the ecclesiastical year these are quite different. It was Archbishop Cranmer’s original intent to provide all new collects for his new liturgy. Eventually, the exigencies of providing quickly the new English liturgy resulted more and more often in translations of the old collects with adaptations to fit the new theology. Here are the two collects for the 2d Sunday of Advent. The old concept has been completely replaced:

The Prayer Book: Blessed Lord, who hast caused all holy Scriptures to be written for our learning; Grant that we may in such wise hear them, read, mark, learn, and inwardly digest them, that by patience and comfort of thy holy Word, we may embrace, and ever hold fast, the blessed hope of everlasting life, which thou hast given us in our Saviour Jesus Christ. Amen.

The Roman Rite: Stir up our hearts, O Lord, to prepare the way of Thine only-begotten Son: that through His coming we may attain to serve Thee with purified minds, Who liveth and reigneth, with God the Father, in the unity of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

There’s no heresy in the Prayer Book collect; it’s a beautiful sentiment. But it’s not the Roman Rite.

The patristic and other writers used for the Matins lessons often comment on the scripture readings at Mass. But when the Prayer Book scripture readings are different from what is found in the Roman Rite the commentaries are changed so as to apply to the readings for that day. Again, neither heretical, immoral, nor fattening. In fact, a useful thing to do considering the intended users. But not the Roman Rite either.

The second nocturns read at Matins on saints days are usually a short biography of the saint. In the Roman Rite these can be startlingly unhistorical medieval tales. Fr Gavin has changed these stories considerably. I don’t recall an instance when it hasn’t been an immense improvement. But it’s not what someone praying the old Roman Breviary circa 1955 would have found.

And there are other odds and ends which differ. On the feast of the Immaculate Conception, for instance, the declaration of the dogma by Pope Pius XII is replaced with something of St Jerome’s. The office still proclaims the reality of the Immaculate Conception. But it avoids the papal infallibility issue, which the Roman Breviary does not.

Some of the differences have to do with the fact that the Prayer Book itself is not an adaptation of the Roman Rite but of the Sarum Rite. So The Anglican Breviary, like the Book of Common Prayer and the old Sarum Rite, counts the Sundays after Trinity instead of the Sundays after Pentecost. (Other Latin Rite liturgies also count the Sundays after Trinity; the one I know of is the old Carmelite Rite of the Holy Sepulchre.)

In sum, I don’t think any Catholic should have a problem praying the hours with the Anglican Breviary. It’s a magnificent and very Catholic work. And it’s certainly in the spirit of the Roman Breviary. But there’s more to it than just “the Roman Breviary in English”.
 
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Karmelitanum:
Hi Thomas More…I can only repeat what my Bishop said. “It’s all psalms and psalms meet the requirement.”

After reading the instructions it sounds like a LONG breviray.
Well…I order one so we’ll see.
Carmelitanum
I have a copy of the Anglican breviray, it is an English translation of the old Latin breviray so you will not find it comparable to the Liturgy of the Hours. The hours in it are a bit long and it follows the older liturgical calendar and the holy days as they were labeled back then. Seemed a bit confusing for me.

For myself, I got a copy of The Psalms, A New Translation, Singing Version. It is the Grail translation set for singing. It is also a small book which is what I was looking for.

I pray the introductory prayers from our Byzantine Tradition, then pray a stasis of psalms and then close out with the closing prayers.

The psalms are broken into 20 Kathisma which are then broken into 3 Stasis each. Each Stasis is made up of about 3 psalms.

So for evening prayer I pray the intro prayers, 3 psalms, and closing prayers.

For morning I pray an Our Father, a Hail Mary, a Glory Be, and some assorted prayers.

During the day I read the Readings for the day from the Byzantine Liturgical Calendar and before Evening prayer I do some spiritual reading as well as reading the Readings for the day from my daily Missal along with the meditation.

Now for my suggestion. You do have a Spiritual Father (Director) do you not? If so what does he think on this?
 
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ByzCath:
I have a copy of the Anglican breviray, it is an English translation of the old Latin breviray so you will not find it comparable to the Liturgy of the Hours. The hours in it are a bit long and it follows the older liturgical calendar and the holy days as they were labeled back then. Seemed a bit confusing for me.

For myself, I got a copy of The Psalms, A New Translation, Singing Version. It is the Grail translation set for singing. It is also a small book which is what I was looking for.

I pray the introductory prayers from our Byzantine Tradition, then pray a stasis of psalms and then close out with the closing prayers.

The psalms are broken into 20 Kathisma which are then broken into 3 Stasis each. Each Stasis is made up of about 3 psalms.

So for evening prayer I pray the intro prayers, 3 psalms, and closing prayers.

For morning I pray an Our Father, a Hail Mary, a Glory Be, and some assorted prayers.

During the day I read the Readings for the day from the Byzantine Liturgical Calendar and before Evening prayer I do some spiritual reading as well as reading the Readings for the day from my daily Missal along with the meditation.

Now for my suggestion. You do have a Spiritual Father (Director) do you not? If so what does he think on this?
Hi Byz,
Actually I have the LOH and the translation NAB is, to put it nicely my least favorite translation.
I’m not anticipating a lot of trouble once I actually get my hands on an AB.

One of the things I love about the Byzantines is the realtionship
between priests and layman. I’ll probably get myself into trouble but unless you are very blessed, the RC priests will answer an occasional question but don’t seem interested iin close Spiritual Direction. I am a very serious RC and I love my Church but our priests seem to want to remain a little distant.

Thanks for your comments though. My plan is to use the Ab but with an Ordo for the daily feast (or no feast). Love those majestic psalms in the older translation.
Carmelitanum
 
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Karmelitanum:
Hi Byz,
Actually I have the LOH and the translation NAB is, to put it nicely my least favorite translation.
I’m not anticipating a lot of trouble once I actually get my hands on an AB.
I have the LOH also and believe me when I say this, the AB is nothing like it. The prayers are very confusing. I figured out the LOH but the AB… just seems beyond me. Do go to the Anglican Breviary web site (anglicanbreviary.com/) and go to the “How to Recite the Office” link. I did the Compline lesson but the rest were just out there for me and I was looking for something with a more Byzantine feel.

I know when I enter formation that I will be doing the LOH but it will be in community. I will continue with my private prayer.
One of the things I love about the Byzantines is the realtionship
between priests and layman. I’ll probably get myself into trouble but unless you are very blessed, the RC priests will answer an occasional question but don’t seem interested iin close Spiritual Direction. I am a very serious RC and I love my Church but our priests seem to want to remain a little distant.
I thought one of the requirements for the Third Orders was to have a Spiritual Director.

As for the other, yes I do find the Byzantine priests a bit more open but my Spiritual Director is a Roman priest. I go out to the Trappist monastery that is nearby. They fill this role for many people. Also the Carmelite retreat center also provides spiritual direction.
 
Karmelitanum said:
**To all kind enough to offer help on this:
I called Bishop Amos (Aux. Bishop for my area) and believe it or not he said the Anglican Breviary would fulfil the requirements of saying the LOH even if under vows!!! 😃 **

That is great. My main concern for those who are under vows is that the Anglican Breviary does not contain any approval from the Magisterium of the Catholic Church.

So without a competent authority granting such an approval, one could not use it. Now you have such an approval in your diocese but that does not go for everyone.

I found another one. Benedictine Daily Prayer, A Short Breviary. Published by Liturgical Press. It uses the New Revised Standard for the scripture (ugh, I love the Revised Standard) and the Grail for the psalms. The Grail translation of the psalms is great.

This has been produced for the use of their oblates. Though this is also an unoffical version. This is an update of the 1941 A Short Breviary published by the monks of St John’s Abbey.
 
You can use the new Book of Divine Worship, which is the new prayer book for Anglican Use Catholics.

You can order one at this website: bookofdivineworship.com/

I will be getting mine soon!

You can also check out a membership in the Anglican Use Society at this website: anglicanuse.org/
 
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AnglicanRite:
You can use the new Book of Divine Worship, which is the new prayer book for Anglican Use Catholics.

You can order one at this website: bookofdivineworship.com/

I will be getting mine soon!

You can also check out a membership in the Anglican Use Society at this website: anglicanuse.org/
I have it. I sort of collect prayer books.

Having said that, I would not use this book. I look for a nice size, something that can travel with me easily.

This book is 9.25 inches by 6.25 inches and 2.75 inches deep. It weighs 4 pounds.

It does not contain any instructions on how to use it for the daily prayers. So unless you already know it or know someone who knows it, it is going to take some work.
 
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