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here is a link
archive.episcopalchurch.org/81808_124018_ENG_HTM.htm
archive.episcopalchurch.org/81808_124018_ENG_HTM.htm
Anglican church in Australia No Longer Has The Seal of Confession
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- in regards to what I made bold above, no matter what you see in the movies, it’s not likely that someone would confess a murder before hand. Also, if a priest did have a feeling about something like that, he would most likely try to get the person help. After all, there is a reason they are coming to confession.
- in regards to the sex abuse scandal, I don’t think eliminating the seal of confession would have made much of a difference. I’m sure that some felt they were already going to Hell and might not of confessed it. Or if they did, they would have gone somewhere else and confessed to a Priest who didn’t know him or that he was a priest.
- finally, people usually confess when they acknowledge their sins and want to amend their lives (even if they fail). You don’t walk into Confession and ask for forgiveness of a sin you don’t plan on stoping or don’t have any remorse for… That’s sacrilege and another mortal sin. In those instances, you don’t receive absolution from Christ, so why bother…? A priest would know that.
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TarkanAttila
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What a wicked woman is the Anglican Church in Australia, who would have her children cut in half to save her face in the eyes of the world
What a loving woman is the Catholic Church in Australia, who would save her children from death, even if she is accused and her children leave to become children of the wicked woman.
King Solomon made a judgement concerning two such mothers once. I wonder what God will do with the Anglican bishop of Australia on judgement day?
(Not to say that Anglican orders are valid; they’re not. But how much more wicked that one should desire the sacraments to be corrupted.)
What a loving woman is the Catholic Church in Australia, who would save her children from death, even if she is accused and her children leave to become children of the wicked woman.
King Solomon made a judgement concerning two such mothers once. I wonder what God will do with the Anglican bishop of Australia on judgement day?
(Not to say that Anglican orders are valid; they’re not. But how much more wicked that one should desire the sacraments to be corrupted.)
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total_Catholic
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The Anglican communion, sans Africa, is on life support. The conservative Anglicans, aka the “Continuing” Anglican churches, while abhorring all that Justin Welby will not do, while they hate TECUSA at the same time for their heresies, cannot even see eye to eye on matters of reconciliation.
I am seriously waiting on the Episcopal Church to declare no such thing as sin. I’m telling ya people, we are close to the Second Coming. It’s scary and yet exciting also. Let’s stay strong.
I am seriously waiting on the Episcopal Church to declare no such thing as sin. I’m telling ya people, we are close to the Second Coming. It’s scary and yet exciting also. Let’s stay strong.
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ChurchSoldier
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Actually probably are, but there are already too many threads on that. Secondarily, validity of orders has nothing to do with protection of the seal of the confessional and as such is not pertinent to the topic (all faiths have the same type of protection).
More to the point of the post, it is sad that the Australian Anglicans have decided to continue to bend to worldly correctness rather than holiness. Now all that will happen is more soul’s will be lost because they don’t have an opportunity to confess to God. There is a good reason societies have this vehicle for people to use to clear the conscience, express repentance and receive forgiveness.
More sad is that the Australian Church is stating by their actions that they hold the civil government to be a higher authority than God by bowing to them rather than upholding church teaching. Unfortunately there were already rumblings about this same thing in the US during the Priest scandal of last decade.
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ChurchSoldier
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It seems that way doesn’t it?
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Petaro
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This form of refusal is against canon law. I am repulsed by this sin against the innocent, nut look at my own sins and pray for the courage not to judge , just as the priest is the instrument of Christ’s mercy in the confessional and not His Justice. We must pray for the souls of these poor sick men whose loneliness or mental aberration tempts them to such evil.
I remain humbled in my judgement by my own evil. Give praise to Christ for his sacrament of reconciliation and let us not deny His mercy to anyone, lest He deny it to us.
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Mystophilus
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It most often happens when the individual feels that our regular, public confession is insufficient. It is very rare, and tends to happen for situations which are terribly upsetting to the penitent.
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Mystophilus
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Since our normal mode of confession is public, this has very different implications to those if the Catholic Church removed the Seal of Confession.
For us, private confession is very rare, and occurs upon specific request by the penitent. This means, for example, that the priest already knows who the penitent is. It also means that removing the Seal will simply prevent anyone who has done anything so serious from confessing it privately unless they want to be arrested.
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1enlighten1
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This question is a little off-topic:
Do all Christian churches have confessions or is it only in some factions?
Do all Christian churches have confessions or is it only in some factions?
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7_Sorrows
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Yes there is a public confession. You can make an appointment for private confession but there is no procedure to follow as in s Catholic confession. It might be seen as more like pastoral counseling.
I didn’t even know there was a seal of confession in the anglican communion. Confession is not a sacrament I don’t believe in the anglican communion.
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ChurchSoldier
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All major faiths have a way to unburden the soul. Christians should stemming from James 5:16 in which it tells us to gather the elders of the church, confess and receive prayer for healing. Most do not practice this.
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GKC
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It is always available at mine. Our late rector dearly wished to build a confessional, years back, but given the “all can, some should, none must” Anglican approach, never could justify the space.
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BernadetteM
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Hi 7 Sorrows,
When I attended an Anglo Catholic parish for many years, there were set times for private confession and we had a confessional also.
I understand that Anglicans in general don’t really go to private confession and that is a shame as it really strengthens your faith and lifts the burdens of sin off of your soul.
Of course if many of the Anglican churches adopt Australia’s newest invention for the Anglicans, then I am sure no one would ever go to confession.
God Bless
Bernadette
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EvangelCatholic
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Keep in mind that Catholics don’t go to private confession very much anymore. The hours set aside for private confession in Catholic parishes has drastically declined over the years. Lutherans also encourage private confession, what we call ‘Holy Absolution’ and like Anglicans, maybe a fraction of parishioners avail themselves of the sacrament. There is public confession at the start of Mass in Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran parishes; that is now the norm.
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BernadetteM
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I don’t believe that one can generalize about Catholics and confession as you posted.
At my parish we have set times for confession everyday and on Sundays as on all other days we have confession before every Mass, so that is at least 5 times on Sunday. We also can make an appointment with the priest. There are always lines of people at every Mass who are making their confession.
I do agree that for many years people didn’t go to confession often, however, it seems that it has become used by more and more Catholics in the last few years.
God Bless
Bernadette
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