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If there are any Anglicans in this forum, I’m curious to know if it’s true that the queen of England appoints Anglican bishops.

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Algernon said:
If there are any Anglicans in this forum, I’m curious to know if it’s true that the queen of England appoints Anglican bishops.

Thanks,

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No, as the question is asked. You have to distinguish between Anglicans, generically and the Church of England, in this instance.

The Queen, by act of parliament, is supreme governor of the Church of England, adn has no authority at all over Anglicanism generally.

So, does the Queen appoint CoE bishops?

Yes, formally, on the advice of the Prime Minister, acting on a list of recommendations prepared by a Church commission.

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So is she a member of The Church of England (probably a naive question, but hey)?

What would happen if a future King/Queen was not a member, say Muslim or Catholic? Would they still have that responsibility of working with the PM to appoint bishops?
 
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So is she a member of The Church of England (probably a naive question, but hey)?

What would happen if a future King/Queen was not a member, say Muslim or Catholic? Would they still have that responsibility of working with the PM to appoint bishops?
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I think there are laws in England that stipulate that the monarch must be a member of the CoE.
 
GKC said:
No, as the question is asked. You have to distinguish between Anglicans, generically and the Church of England, in this instance.

The Queen, by act of parliament, is supreme governor of the Church of England, adn has no authority at all over Anglicanism generally.

So, does the Queen appoint CoE bishops?

Yes, formally, on the advice of the Prime Minister, acting on a list of recommendations prepared by a Church commission.

GKC
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Sorry. I didn’t know there was a difference between that Anglican Church and the Church of England.

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True. In fact if a member of the Royal family marries a Catholic, they have to renounce any claim they might have over the throne. Prince Michael of Kent, a cousin of the Queen and umpteenth in line (ie no chance of becoming king!) nevertheless had to renounce his claim when he married Princess Michael of Kent, a Catholic.
At various times since the Reformation British subjects have been required to take an oath of loyalty to the Queen/King as a way of weeding out the Catholics and non conformists (quakers, baptists etc)
 
ora_pro_nobis said:
True. In fact if a member of the Royal family marries a Catholic, they have to renounce any claim they might have over the throne. Prince Michael of Kent, a cousin of the Queen and umpteenth in line (ie no chance of becoming king!) nevertheless had to renounce his claim when he married Princess Michael of Kent, a Catholic.
At various times since the Reformation British subjects have been required to take an oath of loyalty to the Queen/King as a way of weeding out the Catholics and non conformists (quakers, baptists etc)
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Am I totally reading this wrong, or is this restrictions on religious freedom?

Thank God I’m American! :twocents:
 
Believe_85 said:
Am I totally reading this wrong, or is this restrictions on religious freedom?

Thank God I’m American! :twocents:
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The Church of England is Erastian. By British law, the Soverign must be of the state church. Not to press the analogy ( I bet I’m gonna regret this) but the Pope is, of necessity, Catholic.

GKC
 
The pope is the leader of the Church, period. That’s his role. He also isn’t born into the position, like monarchy is. I didn’t realize that to be a valid member of the monarchy you had to be a certain religion or surrender your crown. I guess that’s the perrogative of the family…if you want the crown, you must belong to a specific church. I just thought the British would have learned something from Bloody Mary and Liz I. :eek:
 
Believe_85 said:
The pope is the leader of the Church, period. That’s his role. He also isn’t born into the position, like monarchy is. I didn’t realize that to be a valid member of the monarchy you had to be a certain religion or surrender your crown. I guess that’s the perrogative of the family…if you want the crown, you must belong to a specific church. I just thought the British would have learned something from Bloody Mary and Liz I. :eek:
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One is not a member of the monarchy. One is the monarch, or one is not. If one is the monarch, by British law, one is also required to be a confirmed member of the Church of England.

That’s how it is.

GKC
 
Believe_85 said:
Am I totally reading this wrong, or is this restrictions on religious freedom?

Thank God I’m American! :twocents:
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It is a left over from the time of the Reformation. If a monarch today suddenly announced his/her intention of converting to Catholicism, who knows what would happen? It is less certain than it used to be that he/her would instantly be banished to outer darkness; there might be a special Act of Parliament to let him/her stay put. In our English way, nobody worries much about it until a theoretical problem becomes a real problem.
 
Algernon said:
Sorry. I didn’t know there was a difference between that Anglican Church and the Church of England.

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There is a story about the Aanglican Bishop of Chicago, who had somehow acquired an audience with the Pope. Whilst he was waiting in the ante-room he got into conversation with a Catholic bishop who was on a similar outing. When the latter asked him where he came from he said that he was the Anglican Bishop of Chicago. “Oh,” came the reply, “The Church of England.”

Apparently Chicago had been teletransported from the US to England in the mind of that Catholic bishop.
 
Not only has the British Monarchy to be C of E or non-Catholic at least, but so too must the Chancellor be non-Catholic. The Chancellor is not royalty. The last prime minister Monseur Blair converted to Catholicism - but only after he finished his term of office.
 
mathematician said:
It is a left over from the time of the Reformation. If a monarch today suddenly announced his/her intention of converting to Catholicism, who knows what would happen? It is less certain than it used to be that he/her would instantly be banished to outer darkness; there might be a special Act of Parliament to let him/her stay put. In our English way, nobody worries much about it until a theoretical problem becomes a real problem.
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like divorce ?
 
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