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Anglican - Liberal Catholic
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McCartney
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There are two Anglican Churches - High Church and Low Church. The Hugh Church is closer to Catholics. Could be something to do with that.
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acacia12
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Sounds like an identity crisis.
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chefmomster2
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I don’t know how that Anglican Church defines Liberal Catholic, but I thought I’d send along some info on Liberal Catholicism in the Catholic Church. It seems to have a very different meaning.
The term Liberal Catholic and its alternative, Ultramontanism, were terms used to describe two reactions of the Church to the French Revolution. Both were heresies. They wanted to retain the “best” of the Revolution by making accomodations in the Church for freedom of religion, assembly, press, the free education of all and an extension of the suffrage.
In 1832, Pope Gregory XVI wrote “Mirari Vos” condemning the program, especially freedom of the press, conscience, and freedom to revolt. The pope was himself the leader of a theocratic state and he feared what could happen if Italian revolutionaries sparked a revolt. He was also afraid that freedoms of press, opinion and religion would diminish his authority.
Many people ignored the Pope’s statements on the issue including the Belgians and the Poles. In Germany the movement was more theological. One of its leaders, Johan Adam Möhler wrote “Symbolik” in 1832. He taught that religion was a feeling of complete dependence and that dogmas were unimportant.
Liberal Catholicism especially opposed infallibility based on past popes who had not always made correct theological decisions.Their use of “critical thinking” led scholars to question the historicity of certain books of the bible and the use of the bible for scientific information. Some scholars claimed that Jesus Christ was not God. Others declared that dogma was changeable and had no final content. Some also stressed the superiority of practice over doctrine. They saw the essence of Christianity in life rather than in creed. Facts became less important than the process of history.
The combination of all of these errors became known as “Modernism”.It was condemned by Pius X in the decree “Lamentabili” and the encyclical “Pascendi” both in 1907. He declared that:
—Scholarship cannot be put above the magisterium.
— Human knowledge is subject to the authority of the Church.
—The Church can demand unternal consent.
—Truth is immutable and dogma is its expression.
—CHRIST IS GOD.
This may not help with your question, but it always helps to understand terms!
The term Liberal Catholic and its alternative, Ultramontanism, were terms used to describe two reactions of the Church to the French Revolution. Both were heresies. They wanted to retain the “best” of the Revolution by making accomodations in the Church for freedom of religion, assembly, press, the free education of all and an extension of the suffrage.
In 1832, Pope Gregory XVI wrote “Mirari Vos” condemning the program, especially freedom of the press, conscience, and freedom to revolt. The pope was himself the leader of a theocratic state and he feared what could happen if Italian revolutionaries sparked a revolt. He was also afraid that freedoms of press, opinion and religion would diminish his authority.
Many people ignored the Pope’s statements on the issue including the Belgians and the Poles. In Germany the movement was more theological. One of its leaders, Johan Adam Möhler wrote “Symbolik” in 1832. He taught that religion was a feeling of complete dependence and that dogmas were unimportant.
Liberal Catholicism especially opposed infallibility based on past popes who had not always made correct theological decisions.Their use of “critical thinking” led scholars to question the historicity of certain books of the bible and the use of the bible for scientific information. Some scholars claimed that Jesus Christ was not God. Others declared that dogma was changeable and had no final content. Some also stressed the superiority of practice over doctrine. They saw the essence of Christianity in life rather than in creed. Facts became less important than the process of history.
The combination of all of these errors became known as “Modernism”.It was condemned by Pius X in the decree “Lamentabili” and the encyclical “Pascendi” both in 1907. He declared that:
—Scholarship cannot be put above the magisterium.
— Human knowledge is subject to the authority of the Church.
—The Church can demand unternal consent.
—Truth is immutable and dogma is its expression.
—CHRIST IS GOD.
This may not help with your question, but it always helps to understand terms!
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chefmomster2
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“Thus in recent years many Anglo-Catholics have accepted the ordination of women, the use of inclusive language in Bible translations and the liturgy and progressive attitudes towards homosexuality. Such Anglicans often refer to themselves as “Liberal Catholics”. The more “progressive” or “liberal” style of Anglo-Catholicism is represented by Affirming Catholicism.”
“Anglo-Catholics share with Roman Catholics a belief in the sacramental nature of the priesthood, the sacrificial character of the Mass and the Real Presence of Christ in the consecrated bread and wine of the Eucharist. A minority of Anglo-Catholics also encourage priestly celibacy. Most Anglo-Catholics encourage devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary, particularly under her title of Our Lady of Walsingham, but not all Anglo-Catholics adhere to a high doctrine of Mariology.”
stmarysilford.org.uk/anglo-catholic.htm
“If we look through the various components of liberalism today we find an all-but universal acceptance in theory of the legitimacy of biblical criticism and a widespread acceptance of the theory of evolution. There is a greater reluctance to apply Biblical criticism to the New Testament, and belief in the virgin birth and bodily resurrection are often used as litmus tests of orthodoxy. However virtually all academic studies of the historical Jesus discount the nativity stories and virtually all discussions of the resurrection accept that however it is or is not to be interpreted, it is not a question of Jesus’ corpse being restored to life.”
“The most widespread success of liberalism has been the near collapse of belief in hell. When disbelief in hell was pronounced as legal in 1864 almost half the clergy signed a petition to say they still believed in it. But preaching of hell fire has become very rare in contemporary Anglicanism and the doctrine was repudiated as incompatible with belief in the love of God in the Doctrine commission report The Mystery of Salvation in 1995.”
“Liberalism was most noticeable in the 1950’s and 60’s in the Church of England Council for Moral Welfare which subsequently became the Board for Social Responsibility. Their reports had an enormous influence on the so-called ‘permissive legislation’ of the 1960’s which closely followed their recommendations. Thus the Church’s report on The Problem of Homosexuality of 1954 foreshadowed the decriminalisation of homosexual behaviour in 1967. Their report Ought Suicide to be a Crime? of 1959 was followed by the Suicide Act of 1961. Likewise the report Abortion: an Ethical Discussion published in 1965 paved the way for the legislation of 1967, just as the report Putting Asunder of 1966 recommended a Divorce Law for contemporary society almost identical to that instantiated in the Divorce Reform Act of 1969.”
“Liberal Anglicans consistently supported the ordination of women to the priesthood and now support their consecration to the episcopate. In the case of homosexuals, liberals accept the empirical evidence that suggests that homosexuality is a natural state for certain people to find themselves in, and believe they should be allowed the same opportunity to find fulfilment in a stable relationship as heterosexuals enjoy.”
modernchurch.org.uk/publications/st/apr2006/2.htm
Try Google. It has these and many other informative sites.
“Anglo-Catholics share with Roman Catholics a belief in the sacramental nature of the priesthood, the sacrificial character of the Mass and the Real Presence of Christ in the consecrated bread and wine of the Eucharist. A minority of Anglo-Catholics also encourage priestly celibacy. Most Anglo-Catholics encourage devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary, particularly under her title of Our Lady of Walsingham, but not all Anglo-Catholics adhere to a high doctrine of Mariology.”
stmarysilford.org.uk/anglo-catholic.htm
“If we look through the various components of liberalism today we find an all-but universal acceptance in theory of the legitimacy of biblical criticism and a widespread acceptance of the theory of evolution. There is a greater reluctance to apply Biblical criticism to the New Testament, and belief in the virgin birth and bodily resurrection are often used as litmus tests of orthodoxy. However virtually all academic studies of the historical Jesus discount the nativity stories and virtually all discussions of the resurrection accept that however it is or is not to be interpreted, it is not a question of Jesus’ corpse being restored to life.”
“The most widespread success of liberalism has been the near collapse of belief in hell. When disbelief in hell was pronounced as legal in 1864 almost half the clergy signed a petition to say they still believed in it. But preaching of hell fire has become very rare in contemporary Anglicanism and the doctrine was repudiated as incompatible with belief in the love of God in the Doctrine commission report The Mystery of Salvation in 1995.”
“Liberalism was most noticeable in the 1950’s and 60’s in the Church of England Council for Moral Welfare which subsequently became the Board for Social Responsibility. Their reports had an enormous influence on the so-called ‘permissive legislation’ of the 1960’s which closely followed their recommendations. Thus the Church’s report on The Problem of Homosexuality of 1954 foreshadowed the decriminalisation of homosexual behaviour in 1967. Their report Ought Suicide to be a Crime? of 1959 was followed by the Suicide Act of 1961. Likewise the report Abortion: an Ethical Discussion published in 1965 paved the way for the legislation of 1967, just as the report Putting Asunder of 1966 recommended a Divorce Law for contemporary society almost identical to that instantiated in the Divorce Reform Act of 1969.”
“Liberal Anglicans consistently supported the ordination of women to the priesthood and now support their consecration to the episcopate. In the case of homosexuals, liberals accept the empirical evidence that suggests that homosexuality is a natural state for certain people to find themselves in, and believe they should be allowed the same opportunity to find fulfilment in a stable relationship as heterosexuals enjoy.”
modernchurch.org.uk/publications/st/apr2006/2.htm
Try Google. It has these and many other informative sites.
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