Anglican repudiation of Once Saved Always Saved in 1603

[Hail_Linus]

At the Conference at Hampton Court (1603) the Bishop of London (who later became the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury) said the following in response to the Puritans attempt to insert “Once Saved always Saved” into the Anglican Church:

"Concerning falling from Grace: The Bishop of London tooke occasion to signifie to his Majestie, how very many in these dayes, neglecting holinesse of life, presumed too much of persisting in Grace, laying all their Religion upon Predestination, If I shall be saved, I shall be saved, which he termed a desperate doctrine, shewing it to be contrary to good Divinity, wherein we should reason rather ascendendo than descendendo, thus : " I live in obedience to God, in love with my neighbour; I follow my vocation, &c., therefore I trust that God hath elected me and predestinated me to salvation "; not thus, which is the usual course of argument : “God hath predestinated and chosen me to life, therefore, though I sin never so grievously, I shall not be damned, for whom he once loveth he loveth to the end.”

This seems very similar to Catholic theology. Do any Anglicans here still believe this? Or have you accepted the Puritan version of Salvation?

 

[PLAT]

Actually this is not very Catholic. Salvation is not granted (notice the word) until the judgement. The bottom line is this: God will not predestinate anyone to salvation because it is his/her choice. Through following the Divine law (The Commandments aka love God and one another), recieving grace (The seven sacraments) and living as Christians (faith, hope, charity), we can avoid getting damned.

 

[Hail_Linus]

Actually this is not very Catholic. Salvation is not granted (notice the word) until the judgement. The bottom line is this: God will not predestinate anyone to salvation because it is his/her choice. Through following the Divine law (The Commandments aka love God and one another), recieving grace (The seven sacraments) and living as Christians (faith, hope, charity), we can avoid getting damned.

But it does have the similarity that it requires Christians to be holy and obedient. How they defined holy and obedient is another question. It is, however, closer to Catholic theology than Once Save Always Saved.

 

[PLAT]

But it does have the similarity that it requires Christians to be holy and obedient. How they defined holy and obedient is another question. It is, however, closer to Catholic theology than Once Save Always Saved.

The key word is predestination. I believe I made my point clear.

How they define holy and obedient does not change how it should be defined, so beware of that.