Anglican service?

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I don’t mean any harm to any one, I would like to have your view on his.

At the moment it seems to me that a Anglican service is more solemn then our current mass?
 
Sorry, lifelong Catholic, so never been to an Anglican service before.

Just so I get an idea, what do you specifically mean by solemn?

When you speak of “our current Mass” do you mean the one at your Parish, the one at my Parish or Mass in general?
 
 
 
Never been to an Anglican or an Episcopalian service, but I have been to a LCMS service (My uncle is a minister but out of active ministry), I love their services, because it resembles a mass. Of Course some theology is different. But they do things very reverently, and in the same order as a mass. And the ones I have attended had no cheesy folky music. Everything was done on the organ.
 
ConstantineTG said:
We don’t have to resort to this. I mean, if we’re just after rubrics follow to a tee, then its just a good show that we’re after anyway. I mean, does a traditional “ceremony” make it more solemn even if you have this…

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The interesting thing is that a validly ordained priest (I am not saying any of the clown priests above are validly ordained) dressed in a clown suit and prancing about like a madman could still validly consecrate the Eucharist, while a solemn, dignified, and traditional liturgy presided over by a female “priest” or “bishop” could never be valid.
 
I think it depends on the type of Anglican/Episcopal parish. The more traditional Anglican/Episcopal services do appear to be more solemn and reverent than some Catholic masses… well if not more solemn and reverent, more beautiful in terms of ceremony, music, traditions, etc. I’ve heard many Catholics (who are more traditional leaning) say that some of these services tend to look more “Catholic” than an actual Catholic mass.

I have gone to these churches visiting with friends, working in them as a freelance musician or to just hear the music…Yes, their services are extremely beautiful and reverent and solemn, making me long for mass like that every Sunday… although it is still not the Catholic mass.

I’ve seen the same kind of beauty and reverence in certain Lutheran services as well… appearing very Catholic from receiving communion kneeling at the altar rail and basically having almost the same order of the service as in a Catholic mass. Also, often times at any of these churches I’ve been in, they did actual Catholic music originally composed for the Catholic mass - parts of the mass, etc.

That said, one of my closest friends is Episcopalian. She says that the more liberal parish masses are slowly become more like Catholic masses in terms of music liturgy (using guitars, bands, etc.), to her dismay. She is fairly liberal-minded herself, but she abhors much of the newer music permeating through some of these parishes. I don’t think that is anything special to one religion or Christian religion either because my Jewish friends tell me the same thing in regards to the more liberal Reform synogogues - loss of more traditional Jewish music, etc.
 
ChristIsTheWay said:
The interesting thing is that a validly ordained priest (I am not saying any of the clown priests above are validly ordained) dressed in a clown suit and prancing about like a madman could still validly consecrate the Eucharist, while a solemn, dignified, and traditional liturgy presided over by a female “priest” or “bishop” could never be valid.
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Honestly I would question that. Because a priest in a clown suit making mockery of the Liturgy would have his intent questionable, therefore the Sacrament may be invalid and therefore, an invalid Mass.
 
ConstantineTG said:
Honestly I would question that. Because a priest in a clown suit making mockery of the Liturgy would have his intent questionable, therefore the Sacrament may be invalid and therefore, an invalid Mass.
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Maybe. Still, I find it interesting that it might be valid, even if unlikely.
 
It depends, because Anglican parishes run the gamut. There are high church Anglicans and Anglo-Catholics, and there are Episcopalian parishes that range from solemn to very contemporary. I sometimes attend an ACNA (Anglican Church in North America) parish, and they have 3 Sunday morning services, one that is very quiet, Rite I with no music at all (I haven’t been to this one), another Rite I with traditional hymns, and a contemporary service with more modern praise music. They use the altar rail at all services, and a couple of people receive on the tongue. Most genuflect or bow before entering their pews. There are holy water fonts at the entrance. They have a monthly Rosary on the third Thursday of the month (Catholic Rosary). They stand and kneel at the same times, and have very similar responses and prayers.
The overall feel of the second Rite I service was quite similar to the Catholic parish I used to attend (which was a large, relatively contemporary parish). One noticeable difference was that, at the Anglican church, I haven’t seen anyone leave after Communion. They also have announcements toward the middle of the service, and they recognize parishioners who are celebrating birthdays or anniversaries. That was another difference.
 
Anglican/Episcopal churches range from more of an evangelical liturgical expression to the Anglo Catholic liturgy, which usually or did use the Anglican Missal, which is very close to the EF but in the vernacular.

The Anglicans coming into the Ordinariate are of the second group. The parishes which have already been Catholic using the Anglican Use liturgy, which is being revised and rumor has it that in the US it might be even closer to the EF, than the Anglican Use parishes, which are Catholic are now allowed to use at present. Rome decided over 28 years ago to add some of the responses from the BCP 1979 and from the Roman Rite. These parishes will be part of the Ordinariate once it is established.

If you want to see an Anglican Use Catholic Mass that is being used at the present time you can view a video at www.atonementonline.com by clicking on the video of the liturgy made in 1994.

Except for the changes Rome made it it typical of an Anglican liturgy.

Within the Anglican Continuing parshes there seems to be many differences in individual parishes and of course if you are speaking of the Episcopal church, well that is another issue.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette
 
I saw a video of a service from London. I was just so shocked… Like mentioned before, it looks more catholic then the current mass. Thank you all for the contribution 🙂
 
BernadetteM said:
Anglican/Episcopal churches range from more of an evangelical liturgical expression to the Anglo Catholic liturgy, which usually or did use the Anglican Missal, which is very close to the EF but in the vernacular.

The Anglicans coming into the Ordinariate are of the second group. The parishes which have already been Catholic using the Anglican Use liturgy, which is being revised and rumor has it that in the US it might be even closer to the EF, than the Anglican Use parishes, which are Catholic are now allowed to use at present. Rome decided over 28 years ago to add some of the responses from the BCP 1979 and from the Roman Rite. These parishes will be part of the Ordinariate once it is established.

If you want to see an Anglican Use Catholic Mass that is being used at the present time you can view a video at www.atonementonline.com by clicking on the video of the liturgy made in 1994.

Except for the changes Rome made it it typical of an Anglican liturgy.

Within the Anglican Continuing parshes there seems to be many differences in individual parishes and of course if you are speaking of the Episcopal church, well that is another issue.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette
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Wow! It is very similar to the EF and OF. And it has some Latin. Its celebrated ad Orientem.

And the congregation sings.

If 100 years from now, that is how most Catholic masses are, we would be blessed.

When is one coming to NY???
 
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