Anglican use Mass?

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Where in the U.S. (and how widespread) is the Anglican use liturgy available?
 
I attended Evensong at an Anglican Use parish near me last week and it was stunning…beautiful music, of course, but also very reverent and joyful. Planning on going to a Mass there sometime this summer.
 
parvenu74 said:
  1. The BCP, as I understand it, was specifically designed to be differentiated form the Catholic Missal in order to separate the Anglicans liturgically and theologically from the Roman Church.
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To differentiate: the Book of Divine Worship is based on the 1928 and 1979 American BCP which (especially in the case of the latter) are quite different in some areas from the BCP in which Cramner played an improtant part).

The 1979 contains a lot of material from diverse liturgical traditions and that is still seen in the Anglican Use: for example, the opening acclamation *[Blessed be God Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, etc. * is modeled on the Blessed is the kingdom of the Father and the Son and the holy Spirit. Likewise the sentence before the Behold the Lamb of God: *the Gifts of God for the people of God. * is an adaptation of the Holy things for the holy also from the East. Then also the optional litanies for the Prayer of the Faithful (though IMHO, still better than leaving it to the composition of individuals as in the NO).

A little strange thing is that one of the options for the Intercessions was crafted by Cramner to replace the peitions from the Roman Canon (since the second BCP had barely anything aside from the Words of Institution in what was supposed ot be the Eucharistic Prayer) Having that, and the Roman Canon, in the Anglican Use, duplicates things somewhat. Though I guess it’s always good to pray twice! 😛
  1. If there are Anglicans seeking to be re-united to Rome, then why would they even want to remain attached to a missal which of its very nature separates from Catholic custom? Why not just adopt the Novus Ordo Missae
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? It’s not like they have to say it in Latin…

Well there are some beautiful facets of the Anglican like the Prayer of Humble Access or the Collect for Purity. Personally, I would have had tiny adaptations to the Roman Missal. By making the Canon the central Eucharistic Prayer and by adopting the Preparation of Gifts from the Roman Missal it becomes basically Roman anyway. Perhaps if they wanted they could have inserted the Collect for Purity before the Mass began or replaced/added to the prayers before Communion with the Prayer of Humble Access and things like that.*
 
AJV said:
Well there are some beautiful facets of the Anglican like the Prayer of Humble Access or the Collect for Purity. Personally, I would have had tiny adaptations to the Roman Missal. By making the Canon the central Eucharistic Prayer and by adopting the Preparation of Gifts from the Roman Missal it becomes basically Roman anyway. Perhaps if they wanted they could have inserted the Collect for Purity before the Mass began or replaced/added to the prayers before Communion with the Prayer of Humble Access and things like that.
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I glanced at an online text of the rite (just used the first site to pop up so I’m not sure how official it was) and thought it was a shame that the AU had adopted the 1970 offertory and revisions to the Roman Canon. I thought if they were being allowed to keep their heritage it would be much more fitting to get to keep the historic canon. Of course, I didn’t know which version of the BCP it was based off of so I guess if the canon had been gutted already then beggars can’t be choosers.
 
cecilia97 said:
Hi Chicago,

I found this listing of parishes online, although it looks to be partial.

walsingham-church.org/otherparishes.htm
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I believe there are only 7 churches in america that are anglican use. i have actaully been to Our Lady Of Walsingham as my friend is a memeber. It is a beautiful mass.

All i can say is that the first TLM mass i went to scaried me away but after going to the Anglican Use mass i would be willing to go again to TLM mass. I can see the beauty and reverance that the people have for the eurcharist and it is amazing.

Check out there mass schuedle. don’t see many normal parish do this…

**S****aturdays:**12:15 p.m. 1st Saturday Mass

3:45-4:15 p.m. Confessions

4:00pm Rosary for Vocations

4:30 p.m. Saturday Low Vigil Mass

Sundays:8:15 a.m.: Low Mass with Gregorian Chant

9:20 a.m-10:15.: CCE Classes (Sept.-May)

9:30-10:00 a.m.: Confessions

10:30 a.m.: Solemn High Mass

Tuesday:

12:15pm Adoration & Exposition of the Blessed Sacrament in the Holy House Chapel

7:00 p.m.: Close of Adoration, Evening Prayer, Benediction & Holy Communion
Oh Our lady is not a partial use church. It is full anglican use church part of the Houston galveston Diocese
 
beckers said:
I believe there are only 7 churches in america that are anglican use. i have actaully been to Our Lady Of Walsingham as my friend is a memeber. It is a beautiful mass.
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Yes, this is where I’ve been as well, very lovely liturgy and welcoming people.
 
Very nicely done Mass. I would be all for an Anglican Rite. Reminds me of an High Episcopal Church I visited years ago. Your church is even better, very traditional, and in full communion with Rome. You have a great parish. Hopefully we will see more Anglican Use parishes. I would go to one, since no parish around my area offers a TLM. 👍
BillFL said:
This link is the Anglican Use Rite Order of the Mass at the Parish I attend.

Note - Incensing is done 3 or 4 times, bells are rung three times each for each concecration of the Bread and Wine, the Priest and Deacons face the altar leading the people, the Gospel reading is done by the deacon from the center aisle of the Church, Communion (by intinction) is taken at the Commun rail. The people genuflect as the cross enters and leaves down the main aisle.

www.atonementonline.com/orderofmass/Rite1.html
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parvenu74 said:
  1. The BCP, as I understand it, was specifically designed to be differentiated form the Catholic Missal in order to separate the Anglicans liturgically and theologically from the Roman Church.
  2. If there are Anglicans seeking to be re-united to Rome, then why would they even want to remain attached to a missal which of its very nature separates from Catholic custom? Why not just adopt the Novus Ordo Missae? It’s not like they have to say it in Latin…
  3. Since we cannot discuss (openly, at least) the comparisons between liturgies, could someone who knows the differences between the Anglican Mass and Novus Ordo Missae please PM me with a list of differences, or a link where such a listing and differentiation has already been posted to the web? Thanks!
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The Anglican Prayer Book preserves much of what is authentically Catholic. Cranmer simply revised and simplified the Latin Breviary of the time.

The Book of Divine Worship that one of the Church of the Atonement sells is very similar to the 1979 Book of Common prayer. The few differences as I understand them, is some revised language in the Eucharistic prayer to make it more in conformity with the Catholic understanding.

I think it is a very good thing for the Church to allow the Anglican Use. there will be many people leaving the Episcopal Church in the coming years. I think it is a great thing to accommodate them, and to allow them to keep much of what they valued in their Anglican liturgy. Their Anglican Liturgy is fulfilled in the Catholic Church, There is no need to completely throw out the BCP liturgy. The Catholic Church at her best always capitalizes on what is best in a missionized culture.
 
I would like to see many Traditional Episcopalians come back to Rome. And an Anglican Rite Catholic Church, like an Ambrosian Rite would be much welcome. An Anglican Rite Mass, with that beautiful English Choir, Byzantine Rite Liturgy with that graceful Byzantine or plain Slavic Chant, or a Traditional Latin Mass with the solemn Gregorian Chant. Those would be my three choices for Sunday and weekdays.👍 All three truly Catholic!.
 
I’d personally like to have an Anglican Use Mass by me, I’ve read the text and compared it to the NO. I’ve got nothing against either, only that I wish that in the future there would be either a very Traditional style and reverent Novus Ordo Mass ad Deum/ad Orientem, or a reverent Anglican Use Mass, so that I would be able to attend either one. I would love the choice of either, since currently I cannot get to the closest TLM mass by me, which is too far of a drive! (plus I’m bad at directions!:o )

But currently since, I live in the greater Pittsburgh region, the best I can hope for is a reverent NO mass, I’d prefer my mass like the NO mass on EWTN, but ad orientem----If I could have it that way, I’d be happy and stop complaining…at least about mass anyone. O man, I wish they’d have Gregorian Chants at my church (NO mass), instead of that banal hippie 60’s/70’s music!:nope:
 
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I’d personally like to have an Anglican Use Mass by me, I’ve read the text and compared it to the NO. I’ve got nothing against either, only that I wish that in the future there would be either a very Traditional style and reverent Novus Ordo Mass ad Deum/ad Orientem, or a reverent Anglican Use Mass, so that I would be able to attend either one. I would love the choice of either, since currently I cannot get to the closest TLM mass by me, which is too far of a drive!
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I think the closest AU parish to you would be the most recent AU parish is the one in Scranton PA. If I’m not mistaken its the Church of the Good Shepherd.

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I know the church you’re talking about, and my husband and I visited a few years back. I really liked it, but (at the time) it was rather cramped. Also, so much incense was used it made it difficult for me to breath - and I love incense!
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The church has been expanded to more than twice its original size, plus a new and larger (much, much larger) chapel, an administration building, high school, and gym. I’m sure you would get used to the incense pretty quick. We have a few people that carry breathing apparatus and the incense does not seem to bother them anymore…
 
BobP123 said:
Only one question back atcha, why did they change the words of consecration?
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I’m not sure what your question is. The Consecration prayer in the Anglican Use Mass is a total replacement of the ancient Syriac anaphora adapted into the Book of Common Prayer. The history of the AU canon is deeply ironic. It is a magnificent translation of the Roman Canon done by one of the most virulently Protestant of the English Reformers so that ordinary people could see what a vile, pernicious horror the Roman Canon really was.

Ha! The translator, Miles Coverdale, became too Protestant for the Protestants in England. Though he was the Bishop of Exeter, after returning from a period of exile in Belgium, he was not returned to his see.

Coverdale, by the way, whatever his theology, translated the Psalter that stood virtually unaltered in the BCP for more than 400 years. I still use it for private devotion as it is the most moving, poetic, and beautiful translation I know (if not always the most accurate!).
 
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