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Those interested in the coming ordinariate may find this link of interest:

theanglocatholic.com/

This blog includes contributions from both Catholics of Anglican persuasion and Anglicans interested in the ordinariate. When you see the title “Fr.”, sometimes the posting is by a Catholic priest, but sometimes it is by a priest of one or another Anglican body. Fr. Christopher Phillips, rector of Our Lady of the Assumption in Texas is a very frequent contributor. There is great respect shown to all.
 
Those interested in the coming ordinariate may find this link of interest:

theanglocatholic.com/

This blog includes contributions from both Catholics of Anglican persuasion and Anglicans interested in the ordinariate. When you see the title “Fr.”, sometimes the posting is by a Catholic priest, but sometimes it is by a priest of one or another Anglican body. Fr. Christopher Phillips, rector of Our Lady of the Assumption in Texas is a very frequent contributor. There is great respect shown to all.
It is Our Lady of the Atonement, not Assumption. Yes the website has both Catholic and Anglican priests commenting on the forthcoming Ordinariate.

By May or June most of the Anglican priests will be ordained as Catholic priests. It will be interesting to see how many other TEC priests, parishes and Continuing Anglicans follow suit in the next year or two.

God Bless

Bernadette
 
I am a former Episcopalian and a parishioner at Our Lady of the Atonement, one of the first Anglican Use parishes in the United States. Most of us thought that our parish would immediately be brought into the new Ordinariate once it was announced. So far it hasn’t.

I don’t really don’t know what the issues are, but the parish has been around a long time (30+ years) and has attracted a lot of cradle Catholics, who I think are the majority. From that point of view, it perhaps makes sense that we will remain with the Archdiocese of San Antonio and not join the Ordinariate. But it is disappointing for those who labored for and dreamed of the Anglican Ordinariate for all these years.
 
Have you been told that the parish will not join the Ordinariate?

The Ordinariate is just getting going. I wrote them early in the first week in January, and just received a response yesterday. I really hope Fr. Steenson pokes his head above water and makes a statement to the world soon.
I am a former Episcopalian and a parishioner at Our Lady of the Atonement, one of the first Anglican Use parishes in the United States. Most of us thought that our parish would immediately be brought into the new Ordinariate once it was announced. So far it hasn’t.

I don’t really don’t know what the issues are, but the parish has been around a long time (30+ years) and has attracted a lot of cradle Catholics, who I think are the majority. From that point of view, it perhaps makes sense that we will remain with the Archdiocese of San Antonio and not join the Ordinariate. But it is disappointing for those who labored for and dreamed of the Anglican Ordinariate for all these years.
 
I don’t really don’t know what the issues are, but the parish has been around a long time (30+ years) and has attracted a lot of cradle Catholics, who I think are the majority. From that point of view, it perhaps makes sense that we will remain with the Archdiocese of San Antonio and not join the Ordinariate. But it is disappointing for those who labored for and dreamed of the Anglican Ordinariate for all these years.
I deeply sympathize with this predicament. I pray everyday now about this.

If membership in the Ordinariate is limited to those who have left the Anglican communion within the last 5 years, it is** unlikely that it will be able to exist** as a sustainable significant body of the Church.

Even of those who are ex-anglicans many are old and have very few children (not to deny there are some families with 10 children here and there as well, but they are the minority). This means that within 30-40 years the majority of founding members will have passed away and left very few descendents.

These - the moderately traditional catholics and ex-anglicans - are two groups who badly need each other, both have suffered seemingly betrayal or at least poor decisions, by their respective former/current hierarchies, they are I think, a match made in heaven. To separate these groups, which are not unlike two lovers, from each other would be a tradgedy. The “marriage”, so to speak, must be allowed for them to be able to be fruitful and multiply and serve to help souls attain Salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ and His holy sacrifice of the Eucharist.

The biggest issue here is how in fact one defines a cradle catholic.
There are millions of catholics who have on either the mother or fathers side, within the last one hundred years, an adherant to some form of protestantism. Anglican and Lutheranism being two of the more common ones.

At the bare minimum, if one has either Anglican or Lutheran heritage within the last generation or two one ought to allow this to qualify, regardless of what they were originally baptized as.

Without “cradle catholics” of one sort or another, the ordinariate is all for naught. I should think any intelligent hierach knows this. Something must be done to remedy this situation immediately. Something rather unexpected and distasteful may otherwise occur.

Please pray ceaselessly for this intention.

Music such as this needs to live and breath freely:
youtube.com/watch?v=EdwksFvtsng

In english, it has no other home, except perhaps for the western rite vicariates of the eastern orthodox churches.

What is good for traditional english language liturgy, is ultimately beneficial to communities focused on traditional latin language liturgy. One can not enrich the other so easily, without both being allowed to exist.
 
Have you been told that the parish will not join the Ordinariate?

The Ordinariate is just getting going. I wrote them early in the first week in January, and just received a response yesterday. I really hope Fr. Steenson pokes his head above water and makes a statement to the world soon.
What is that supposed to mean??? :eek:
 
I rather thought that Our Lady of the Atonement was going to go to the Ordinariate…but it has been under the bishop of San Antonio for many years of course.

While my parents were alive and lived in San Antonio, I would drive across town to go to OLOA and I loved to go there! It has now been three years since I have visited. I have a large statue of OLOA in my living room and gaze at it every day.

If I lived in San Antonio, I would live near that church: that is how much I liked to attend holy Mass there.
 
Well, Our Lady of the Atonement is not joining the Ordinariate for now. The decision was made by Fr Phillips himself once he realized what it would mean for the Parish: former Anglicans could join the Ordinariate and worship in the parish church, but the parish itself would remain in the Archdiocese of San Antonio. Fr Phillips would have been allowed to become an Ordinariate priest while a Latin priest would have taken the helm at Our Lady of the Atonement. This would have meant that Fr Phillips would have had to give up not only the parish but also the very successful K-12 school he had built from the ground up. It was really an impossible situation for Fr Phillips. I’m sure I would have made the same decision if it were me.
 
Personally from what I have heard, Fr. Phillips had no choice in the matter. The new Bishop wanted to keep the buildings, inclulding the church and school as the diocese gains quite a large income from it.

If one really looks at the situation, there are at least two other AU parishes who have been allowed to enter the Ordinariate.

If Archbishop Gomez was still over the diocese I am sure that OLA would now be part of the Ordinariate.

Fr. Phillips is being obedient to his superiors and I am sure it has been very hurtful for the one man who promoted the Ordinariate all over the US and is the reason that so many groups have become part of the Ordinariate. This is how the Church has always done, many former saints were not treated well until many years after their deaths and then made saints. I am not implying that Fr. Phillips is a saint, however, from many peoples’ perspective he has been treated very unfairly and all due to financial gain.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette
 
There is a lot of speculation and misinformation in this thread.

As to the demographics of the parish membership, please see the parish profile at atonementparishprofile.blogspot.com:
Of the 408 households responding to the census survey, the parish is comprised as follows:
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       272 households (67%) are comprised of converts and/or formerly-lapsed Catholics, eligible for membership in the Ordinariate.
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       136 households (33%) are comprised of Catholics who have sought out and chosen Our Lady of the Atonement Church as a parish which best expresses their spirituality, in accordance with their right to follow their own form of spiritual life.  The interim norms issued by the CDF and CDW provided that such Catholics could be enrolled in personal parishes of the Anglican Use with the permission of the diocesan bishop. Archbishop Flores generously delegated this faculty to the pastor of Our Lady of the Atonement, and these persons, along with those who are immediately eligible, have stated their desire for membership in the Ordinariate.
The parish has been around for 29 years. There maybe a lot of “Cradle Catholics” who never left the Church who are Atonement parishioners (such as myself), but there is a whole generation of “Cradle Anglican Use Catholics” who were born into and raised in the parish and were educated at Atonement Academy.

As to the reasons OLA is staying part of the Archdiocese of San Antonio, see the statements from Father Phillips from May, particularly this quote:
The archbishop is NOT preventing the parish from seeking entrance into the Ordinariate at this time, or at some future time. He was clear about that, and is very respectful of our right to make that request any time.
 
Well, Our Lady of the Atonement is not joining the Ordinariate for now. The decision was made by Fr Phillips himself once he realized what it would mean for the Parish: former Anglicans could join the Ordinariate and worship in the parish church, but the parish itself would remain in the Archdiocese of San Antonio. Fr Phillips would have been allowed to become an Ordinariate priest while a Latin priest would have taken the helm at Our Lady of the Atonement. This would have meant that Fr Phillips would have had to give up not only the parish but also the very successful K-12 school he had built from the ground up. It was really an impossible situation for Fr Phillips. I’m sure I would have made the same decision if it were me.
Yes, but this was announced last spring. It is not news at the present time. :confused:
 
St. Mary the Virgin in Arlington, Texas will become part of the Ordinariate within the next few years. A press release was released last month.

The Ordinariate is be based out of Houston, Texas with its principal church being Our Lady of Walsingham. Msgr. Jeffrey Steenson was appointed as the head of the Ordinariate by Pope Benedict XVI in January 2012.

I have a friend who is a parishioner at St. Mary the Virgin, and I have attended Mass there. Six former Episcopal priests from the Dallas-Fort Worth area were ordained on June 30, 2012 for the Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter.

You can read more about some resources here:

usordinariate.org/resources.html
 
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