Anglicans Face Difficult Summit

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One of the rumors, although I doubt that it will happen, is that the Anglican Communion might approve a “two province” solution for North America. Roughly speaking, those in the “liberal” camp would remain in the Episcopal Church while those in the “conservative” camp would be in the new province. This would be contrary to the general rule in Anglicanism that, with some minor exceptions, recognizes just one Anglican authority within each nation.

The makeup of the Anglican Church around the world is shown in the following link.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/3226753.stm
 
Seriously, do you think it makes that much of a difference in the grand scheme of things? I’m not joking, I seriously want your opinion on this.
 
exoflare said:
Seriously, do you think it makes that much of a difference in the grand scheme of things? I’m not joking, I seriously want your opinion on this.
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It certainly makes a difference to Anglicans…so, yes.
 
GKC said:
As a Continuing Anglican, I find the situation of interest, but not of concern.

GKC

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The devil’s in the details, especially with respect to how such a hypothetical second province might deal with the issue of women’s ordination and other theological distinctions between Anglo-Catholics and Episcopal Evangelicals. Nonetheless, you do not see any real possibility that the Continuum would join with, or enter into communion with, such a second province?
 
rr1213 said:
The devil’s in the details, especially with respect to how such a hypothetical second province might deal with the issue of women’s ordination and other theological distinctions between Anglo-Catholics and Episcopal Evangelicals. Nonetheless, you do not see any real possibility that the Continuum would join with, or enter into communion with, such a second province?
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Highly unlikely, in the main. The problem is in the term you used: communion. It was a similar problem with the hyped (but never to be) third province in the CoE. To join such a group would be to put yourself in communion with those who put collars on females, and all that syndrome. That means that Canterbury is Coventry, so to speak; no chance of establishing communion with the Anglican Communion. Most Continuers would not really be interested in re-polluting the well.

There is also the Evangelical-AC division, as you say. Few Continuers are interested in restablishing the Elizabethan Compromise, from either side.

The above represents personal opinion, based on some things I hear over coffee after Mass.

GKC
 
GKC said:
Highly unlikely, in the main. The problem is in the term you used: communion. It was a similar problem with the hyped (but never to be) third province in the CoE. To join such a group would be to put yourself in communion with those who put collars on females, and all that syndrome. That means that Canterbury is Coventry, so to speak; no chance of establishing communion with the Anglican Communion. Most Continuers would not really be interested in re-polluting the well.

There is also the Evangelical-AC division, as you say. Few Continuers are interested in restablishing the Elizabethan Compromise, from either side.

The above represents personal opinion, based on some things I hear over coffee after Mass.

GKC
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It’s actually too bad in some ways. If Anglicans, those famed practioners of the *via media *cannot end divisions within our own midsts, then what hope is there for a greater Christian unity this side of paradise?
 
rr1213 said:
It’s actually too bad in some ways. If Anglicans, those famed practioners of the *via media *cannot end divisions within our own midsts, then what hope is there for a greater Christian unity this side of paradise?
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Hard to compromise on the validity of Orders. But, still, that’s a good question, broadly speaking.

GKC
 
Discouraging comments:

"Of course there are always silly American blogger theologians, some conservative, who make statements like, “the situation is redeemable but the archbishops are moving close to the brink” - sheer double speak. For how many years have people said: “wait for the next meeting of Primates. There will be a bombshell”? Is this more of the same? More “listening”? Meanwhile, the persecution of the orthodox continues.

The situation is not redeemable, the Communion is doing what it always does - limp along with more “conversation”, more “covenants”, endless “listening” and the new antidote to absolute decision making; “hermeneutics” - the science of contextualizing sodomy. This is living proof that sodomy is an abomination the Anglican Communion can apparently live with; it is merely an anathema, hardly a communion breaker."

virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5533
 
rr1213 said:
Discouraging comments:

"Of course there are always silly American blogger theologians, some conservative, who make statements like, “the situation is redeemable but the archbishops are moving close to the brink” - sheer double speak. For how many years have people said: “wait for the next meeting of Primates. There will be a bombshell”? Is this more of the same? More “listening”? Meanwhile, the persecution of the orthodox continues.

The situation is not redeemable, the Communion is doing what it always does - limp along with more “conversation”, more “covenants”, endless “listening” and the new antidote to absolute decision making; “hermeneutics” - the science of contextualizing sodomy. This is living proof that sodomy is an abomination the Anglican Communion can apparently live with; it is merely an anathema, hardly a communion breaker."

virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5533
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Why am I not surprised.

GKC

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I’m tired of waiting, which is one reason why we left the Episcopal Church.
 
I feel bad for my family and friends that are still in the Episcopal Church… only SEVEN Primates refused communion with PB Schiori?

Things look really bad for the faithful remnant in TEC. 😦
 
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