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Some of them are downright sneaky…Coming from a pretty conservative background of cradle Catholic - turned Episcopalian - now turned Anglican over the Robinson ordination. I offer the following “ramblings” (as I am a baby Anglican but read a lot) and ask others to enlighten me regarding these issues.
Since the Episcopalians have no magisterium/ authority figure, no one was bound by sanction or collegiality to toe the line. Seems like the controlling factor in the past was the House of Bishops riding herd over the laity. With time, many “liberal” ideas were ingrained in the clergy of the 70’s in “progressive seminaries” and this situation seems to have changed with the bishops turning progressive.
An agenda of social justice (not necessarily a bad thing) has taken the fore. Enjoying an atmosphere of extreme tolerance and little hard dogma (again not a bad thing - they tolerate me!), many dissenting ideas were proposed and heard. Many bishops thought themselves “prophetic” by taking up causes that even their own diocese opposed. And now - here we are!!
I don’t think that the situation in the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) is too much different except that the “prophets” are not so outspoken.
But many Catholics in the US are not even aware that we were supposed to substitute another penance in lieu of eating meat on Friday.I imagine that the Pope thinks the American bishops nearly as unruly (liberal) as the American Episcopalians. Hence the tightening up of liturgy, and other abuses. I have heard proposed a return to meatless Fridays which is still a requirement outside of America.
I suspect in the RCC that most are - we are getting some older vocations, and I understand that most of the younger candidates are of a more conservative and traditional frame of mind which seems to aggravate the holdovers from early and intermediate post council times no end. But with the state of the seminaries one has to wonder what “formation” entails.Conservative Anglicans are looking to the southern hemisphere for new leadership and it appears similarly, that most new RC priests are coming from the mission grounds.
Where all of this will take us is anyone’s guess-- the only commonality seems to be that “the faith” as many of us learned it experienced it, and are living it seems under seige and in a great deal of flux. :twocents: