Anglicans returning to the Catholic Church?

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Over the last few years my local Catholic radio has made brief news reports that some Anglican and Episcopal groups have asked the Catholic Church to return to communion with the Church. I have not heard many details and don’t know if they have did it yet. Does anyone know anything more? Please tell me where I can learn more about it?

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Over the last few years my local Catholic radio has made brief news reports that some Anglican and Episcopal groups have asked the Catholic Church to return to communion with the Church. I have not heard many details and don’t know if they have did it yet. Does anyone know anything more? Please tell me where I can learn more about it?

Jeffrey
In the Archives is a forum that relates to Anglicanorum Coetibus. It’s out of date, but will give a lot of background, much of it accurate.

The process, which is still murky, is underway. What it will amount to in the end remains to be seen. But some of the Anglican groups who had expressed a desire for communion with Rome are making slow progress in that direction.

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Over the last few years my local Catholic radio has made brief news reports that some Anglican and Episcopal groups have asked the Catholic Church to return to communion with the Church. I have not heard many details and don’t know if they have did it yet. Does anyone know anything more? Please tell me where I can learn more about it?

Jeffrey
Its been accelerating over the last few years. Your are probably thinking of the Traditional Anglican Communion. See if this Wikipedia link works for you:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Anglican_Communion

In addition there are other similar traditional Anglican factions who might appear to be similar in belief, who might prefer to maintain independence from Rome, yet hope some day to receive some kind of exceptional recognition like the Eastern Orthodox Church.
 
Father Mark Brown, a frequent poster on here who is an Anglican priest in the midst of entering the Ordinariate to become a Catholic priest is VERY up to snuff on this issue and can update you better than anybody here, trust me!
 
At 6:25pm I felt a disturbance in the force.😃

GerardPaul, you asked on the progress of Anglicans coming into the Church. Short up to date. Yes gurney I can write short post or letters!😛

About1993’s a group of Anglicans, The Tradition Anglican Church, began asking Rome about coming home. 2007 their Bishops signed the Catholic Catechism and began teaching it to their people. Some Bishops did it better than others.
In Oct 2009 the Anglican Consitution was announced. Since then various groups of Anglicans have signaled to Rome they wanted to accept the Holy Father’s offer.

Each Anglican Jurisdiction is different in regards to canons and constitutions. Sometimes Dioceses within the Jurisdiction have differing canons and constitutions. Well, what do you expect from Anglicans…conformity?

Various groups have moved forward and the speed of the progress is based upon the canons etc. So to date this is what has happened.

Mar 3 The Anglican Bishops of the TAC in the States (called the ACA) met and asked the Ordinariate move forward here. Under their canons, each Diocese must meet in Synod to vote on the ordinariate. To date 3 of the 4 have. The last one is the Diocese of the Northeast. Only 1 of the 4 Bishops Ordinary have followed through with the promises made at Portsmouth, Consecration and the Mar 3 College of Bishops. The last Synod will be in September. As I understand it, only after this Synod can the process continue forward.

Canada. Synod 12-16 July. Voted overwhelming to join the Church. I think 2 lay delegates voted opposed. All clergy and Bishops approved. Unofficially, Rome has appointed a liaision, Cardinal Quelleot I believe from Quebec. He has worked with the Anglican Catholic Church Canada and has a very good working and personal relationship with her Bishops.

Australia. Synod 27-30 July. voted overwhelming to join the Church. I know Rome has appointed a Bishop to help them. I forgot his name. I believe he was a former Anglican.

Torres Strait (Pacific Ocean) last spring asked to be involved. Yet to have Synod. Expected to accept like Australia.

Puerto Rico…yes a few Anglicans there. Accpeted. Rumored they maybe the first ones over the bridged to Rome. Smaller groups and good working relationship with the Church.

India…waiting.

Church of England. Last Spring 3 CoE Bishops quietly went to Rome to begin talks. After the abandonment of Scripture and Tradition at the most recent Synod, interest has grown for the ordinariate. Contacts there have said nothing public will happen until after the Holy Father’s visit in September and the Forward in Faith Synod in October. Other issues with the CoE is it is an established Church. Not as easy to leave for clergy and laity. Like here in the US, it is expected the CoE will fight to keep property, pensions, priest’s homes etc. There is one group in England which is not part of the established Church and has already asked for the ordinariate.

On Romes side. The designation of Ordinaries and other issues will have to be met. Look for further movement in Canada and Australia.

At first the number of Anglicans will be small. Anglicans have been told time and time again by Bishops of the new next best thing. So it is a wait and see if this come to fruit.
Once the intial groups are in, set up and running more will come over. I have personally talked with many priests who are interested, but as we say in Alabama “gun shy”. Today I spoke with two priests, one in the Reformed Episcopal Church like myself and the other in the Anglica Catholic Church who are interested, but are waiting until it is setup.

to follow up with the process in the various parts of the world to to www.theanglocatholic.com The majority of the posters here are Bishops, Priest and laity from around the world updating on the happenings in their area. You could find out if there are any parishes in your area. Sometimes, priests being priests, we start discussions on topics that will make your eyes glaze over. You can pick up some good infor. and links to other sites around the world of Anglicans coming or thinking of coming to Rome.

Hope that helps.

Mark+

ps. See Scott, I kept it short!😉
 
Ah ha! But you didn’t mention Outer Mongolia in all those countries! Are they going with Rwanda and AMIA or taking the Ordinariate? 😛 And how about Needles, California? 😛
At 6:25pm I felt a disturbance in the force.😃

GerardPaul, you asked on the progress of Anglicans coming into the Church. Short up to date. Yes gurney I can write short post or letters!😛

About1993’s a group of Anglicans, The Tradition Anglican Church, began asking Rome about coming home. 2007 their Bishops signed the Catholic Catechism and began teaching it to their people. Some Bishops did it better than others.
In Oct 2009 the Anglican Consitution was announced. Since then various groups of Anglicans have signaled to Rome they wanted to accept the Holy Father’s offer.

Each Anglican Jurisdiction is different in regards to canons and constitutions. Sometimes Dioceses within the Jurisdiction have differing canons and constitutions. Well, what do you expect from Anglicans…conformity?

Various groups have moved forward and the speed of the progress is based upon the canons etc. So to date this is what has happened.

Mar 3 The Anglican Bishops of the TAC in the States (called the ACA) met and asked the Ordinariate move forward here. Under their canons, each Diocese must meet in Synod to vote on the ordinariate. To date 3 of the 4 have. The last one is the Diocese of the Northeast. Only 1 of the 4 Bishops Ordinary have followed through with the promises made at Portsmouth, Consecration and the Mar 3 College of Bishops. The last Synod will be in September. As I understand it, only after this Synod can the process continue forward.

Canada. Synod 12-16 July. Voted overwhelming to join the Church. I think 2 lay delegates voted opposed. All clergy and Bishops approved. Unofficially, Rome has appointed a liaision, Cardinal Quelleot I believe from Quebec. He has worked with the Anglican Catholic Church Canada and has a very good working and personal relationship with her Bishops.

Australia. Synod 27-30 July. voted overwhelming to join the Church. I know Rome has appointed a Bishop to help them. I forgot his name. I believe he was a former Anglican.

Torres Strait (Pacific Ocean) last spring asked to be involved. Yet to have Synod. Expected to accept like Australia.

Puerto Rico…yes a few Anglicans there. Accpeted. Rumored they maybe the first ones over the bridged to Rome. Smaller groups and good working relationship with the Church.

India…waiting.

Church of England. Last Spring 3 CoE Bishops quietly went to Rome to begin talks. After the abandonment of Scripture and Tradition at the most recent Synod, interest has grown for the ordinariate. Contacts there have said nothing public will happen until after the Holy Father’s visit in September and the Forward in Faith Synod in October. Other issues with the CoE is it is an established Church. Not as easy to leave for clergy and laity. Like here in the US, it is expected the CoE will fight to keep property, pensions, priest’s homes etc. There is one group in England which is not part of the established Church and has already asked for the ordinariate.

On Romes side. The designation of Ordinaries and other issues will have to be met. Look for further movement in Canada and Australia.

At first the number of Anglicans will be small. Anglicans have been told time and time again by Bishops of the new next best thing. So it is a wait and see if this come to fruit.
Once the intial groups are in, set up and running more will come over. I have personally talked with many priests who are interested, but as we say in Alabama “gun shy”. Today I spoke with two priests, one in the Reformed Episcopal Church like myself and the other in the Anglica Catholic Church who are interested, but are waiting until it is setup.

to follow up with the process in the various parts of the world to to www.theanglocatholic.com The majority of the posters here are Bishops, Priest and laity from around the world updating on the happenings in their area. You could find out if there are any parishes in your area. Sometimes, priests being priests, we start discussions on topics that will make your eyes glaze over. You can pick up some good infor. and links to other sites around the world of Anglicans coming or thinking of coming to Rome.

Hope that helps.

Mark+

ps. See Scott, I kept it short!😉
 
Ah ha! But you didn’t mention Outer Mongolia in all those countries! Are they going with Rwanda and AMIA or taking the Ordinariate? 😛 And how about Needles, California? 😛
Outer Mongolia…Orthodox Reformed. With a tendancy to migrate westward so they usually come into contact with catholicism.

Needles California…Druidic reformed…not allowed to worship bushes.

😛

Next.

Mark+
 
Then there’s the Area 51 Diocese which focuses on a social alien justice gospel.
Outer Mongolia…Orthodox Reformed. With a tendancy to migrate westward so they usually come into contact with catholicism.

Needles California…Druidic reformed…not allowed to worship bushes.

😛

Next.

Mark+
 
I know I’m the only one who can answer this question for myself, but I wonder if I just need a good dose of common sense.

I’m an Anglican in Tokyo, and it seems to me that it could be a very long time before we are able to have a personal Ordinariate here, due to the small number of TAC members (and only God knows how many folks in the Anglican Church here are considering the move, if any). We don’t even have a TAC fellowship in Tokyo, so I continue to worship at an Anglican parish, and stay in communication with the Nippon Kirisuto Sei Ko Kai (the name for the TAC Church in Japan).

But my question is, should I wait for the Ordinariate or should I just join the Catholic Church as an individual, do what I can as a Catholic to help the work of TAC in Japan, and then transfer to the Anglican “branch” of the Catholic Church when it finally becomes reality?

My inclination is to wait, because I prefer the Anglican Tradition and the liturgy, especially Communion in both kinds, which Japanese Roman Catholic laity do not receive. But there are other issues such as not being able to go to confession, and the question about the validity of the Eucharist as I enjoy it now. Perhaps I’m just being stubborn and need a kick in the pants…
 
Hey,

Maybe when you all have returned home to rome you can have a chat to our orthodox brethren?😃

And every other denomination for that matter…
 
You’re correct in that only you can decide this and none of us here at CAF but I will say, if you are so inclined to become Catholic, go to an RCIA when it starts up and do this on your own. That’s what I would do. The ordinariates idea is nice but slow and sporadic. I’d go to RCIA and pray hard. If you feel Catholicism is for you and the Holy Spirit is pulling you to the Catholic Church, give it a try. RCIA is not something you sign onto in blood. It has a period of inquiry and exploration, and you can study up, ask questions, and pray about it. I wouldn’t wait for ordinariates unless you are more Anglican-inclined and are dead set on staying in the Anglican tradition of worship, which I UNDERSTAND. I personally love Anglican liturgy and worship and the community. In my area, Anglicans are an ultra minority, tiny parish but boy they’re ten times better than the Catholic community in fellowship, taking care of each other, medical missions, and building a sense of community amongst each other. The Book of Common Prayer—what’s not to love about it?

Are you a U.S. soldier or an American living there? If yes, are you planning on coming back to the States or are you living in Japan permanently?

Blessing to you, Russ, in whatever you choose…
I know I’m the only one who can answer this question for myself, but I wonder if I just need a good dose of common sense.

I’m an Anglican in Tokyo, and it seems to me that it could be a very long time before we are able to have a personal Ordinariate here, due to the small number of TAC members (and only God knows how many folks in the Anglican Church here are considering the move, if any). We don’t even have a TAC fellowship in Tokyo, so I continue to worship at an Anglican parish, and stay in communication with the Nippon Kirisuto Sei Ko Kai (the name for the TAC Church in Japan).

But my question is, should I wait for the Ordinariate or should I just join the Catholic Church as an individual, do what I can as a Catholic to help the work of TAC in Japan, and then transfer to the Anglican “branch” of the Catholic Church when it finally becomes reality?

My inclination is to wait, because I prefer the Anglican Tradition and the liturgy, especially Communion in both kinds, which Japanese Roman Catholic laity do not receive. But there are other issues such as not being able to go to confession, and the question about the validity of the Eucharist as I enjoy it now. Perhaps I’m just being stubborn and need a kick in the pants…
 
Thanks for the good answer. I’m an American who has lived in Japan since 1987. I came here as a missionary with a small renegade Episcopal sending agency (before I was an Episcopalian I was in a non denominational evangelical church). When my missionary financial support dried up, I chose to stay in Japan and work to support my family.

So I’m here permanently.
 
I know I’m the only one who can answer this question for myself, but I wonder if I just need a good dose of common sense.

I’m an Anglican in Tokyo, and it seems to me that it could be a very long time before we are able to have a personal Ordinariate here, due to the small number of TAC members (and only God knows how many folks in the Anglican Church here are considering the move, if any). We don’t even have a TAC fellowship in Tokyo, so I continue to worship at an Anglican parish, and stay in communication with the Nippon Kirisuto Sei Ko Kai (the name for the TAC Church in Japan).

But my question is, should I wait for the Ordinariate or should I just join the Catholic Church as an individual, do what I can as a Catholic to help the work of TAC in Japan, and then transfer to the Anglican “branch” of the Catholic Church when it finally becomes reality?

My inclination is to wait, because I prefer the Anglican Tradition and the liturgy, especially Communion in both kinds, which Japanese Roman Catholic laity do not receive. But there are other issues such as not being able to go to confession, and the question about the validity of the Eucharist as I enjoy it now. Perhaps I’m just being stubborn and need a kick in the pants…
Hi Russ,

My two cents. If the anglicans are ready to come home to the catholic church then they have obviously realised that they are coming back to the true church. If you are considering waiting for them to join my question is why?

If you truly desire to become catholic then do it because you want to and not because your church is oding it. When yo become catholic you’ll feel apart of christ’s body, you’ll feel as one with every other rite in the catholic church. (ask the marounites, melkites, ukraines etc)

What i’m trying to say is once your catholic your are catholic regardless of where you have come from.

Why wait to be apart of christ’s holy church?
 
Well best of luck to you, Russ. I’d give RCIA a try. Also read up about the ordinariates and ask guys here in CAF like Father Mark Brown if they know anything about ordinariates in Japan. If your heart is being pulled by the HS to Catholicism, a trip to RCIA is the best thing. Go to a good, orthodox, local Catholic parish and ask the pastor about RCIA.

IM me anytime you want to talk, need prayer about it, or just want to ask questions. Blessings, friend.
Thanks for the good answer. I’m an American who has lived in Japan since 1987. I came here as a missionary with a small renegade Episcopal sending agency (before I was an Episcopalian I was in a non denominational evangelical church). When my missionary financial support dried up, I chose to stay in Japan and work to support my family.

So I’m here permanently.
 
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