Anglicans: What are your beliefs about the Blessed Virgin Mary?

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Requires much research and reading. I would suggest for a start the Immaculate Conception could easily be put to rest by reading…

catholicpatristics.blogspot.com Immaculate Conception

There you will find the early works of East/West Churchs in various Liturgys, works etc which are in existence today.

Though some of the dated and oldest copies written which we have are from 200-400 AD, the author’s are authentic and are from the period immediately after Christ. Well you can read the sight and then further research from that point. Make up your own mind based on sound research.

If you have trouble finding the sight make a note and I’ll link it.

Peace/Happy Easter:thumbsup:
 
Mary as Theotokos or Mother of God‎ - As far as I’m aware there is no wiggle room on this. Anglicans certainly accept Ephesus as binding.

Perpetual Virginity - Not really. I don’t think it adds anything to the virgin birth other than an unhealthy fixation on the Holy Family’s bedroom activities. As a pious opinion it’s fine, but Anglicans cannot impose any extra-biblical belief as “required for salvation.”

Assumption - Yep. While the precise nature of her falling asleep cannot be a mandated area of belief (see above), the antiquity of the tradition that the general resurrection is foreshadowed in Mary is something I take seriously.

Immaculate Conception - Anglo-Catholic objections to this are likely to be of the Orthodox (dependent on a particular Augustinian forensic view and moot outside it) rather than the Protestant variety. I have no problem holding that she was prepared “full of grace” from the moment she began life, but I don’t feel the need to insulate the Incarnation from the reality of sin with a generational “buffer.” (And Anglicans are often iffy about anything seen to downplay the significance of the Incarnation). I will admit to wearing the MM, though, so perhaps that makes me inconsistent (or just Anglican!)

Mediatrix - In the sense that we all ought to hold one another in prayer, yes, but certainly not in the awful mediaeval “holding back her Son’s hand” way

Co-Redemptrix - In sensu strictu as it’s intended I get the drift (working cum the Redeemer) but it is unedifying at best and tends to grave misunderstanding at worst.

Her Place within the Communion of Saints - What, that she has one? We certainly keep her six Biblical (or logically-inferred) feasts in the calendar (and provision for local feasts is fairly generous - thus many Episcopal congregations with large Hispanic populations make a big do of Guadalupe)

Requests for Her Intercession Certainly. Generally this is outside of the liturgy, though in some parishes (such as my own) the Angelus is sung or said immediately following Mass.

Veneration - And how! The Outdoor procession on the Visitation is one of the highlights of my year, and I am a former officer of the local ward of the Society of Mary.

Other Beliefs/Doctrines - Mother of the Church, of couse. I’m pretty sceptical of most 20th century apparitions. The Coronation is of course included in the course of Rosary, but I think it needs to be offset with an equal emphasis on her humble estate in Palestine. It’s a dream of mine to study at the Marianum!
 
I believe she is the Mother of God and a perpetual virgin (if she and Joseph were going to have a sexual relationship, why would she ask the Angel Gabriel how she would give birth to Jesus?). I believe that she died and was taken bodily into heaven. The Immaculate Conception I’m not sure on. I do wear the Miraculous Medal, though.

I remember attending High Anglican Evensong in my hometown. Near the end we would process to the Marian Shrine at the back of the church and recite a variation of the Litany of Loreto. I personally pray the Rosary sometimes and ask the Blessed Virgin to pray for me.

Just out of interest, here is a Latin Mass celebrated in an Anglican church:

youtube.com/watch?v=EcdfVbKmFkY
 
Anna_Scott said:
I have encountered some sharp disagreements among Anglicans regarding the Blessed Virgin Mary.

So, Anglicans: What are your beliefs about the Blessed Virgin Mary?

Please feel free to pick and choose one or more issues from this list or add some of your own for discussion:

Mary as Theotokos or Mother of God‎
Perpetual Virginity
Assumption
Immaculate Conception
Mediatrix
Co-Redemptrix
Her Place within the Communion of Saints
Requests for Her Intercession
Veneration
Other Beliefs/Doctrines

I look forward to your responses.

Peace and blessings,
Anna
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As long as everyone holds to Mary as the Mother of God they are straight. Me personally, Mother of God=yes, Perpetual Virginity=yes, Assumption=Orthodox version yes, roman catholic version=no, Immaculate conception=no, mediatrix=no ,Co-Redempttrix=no, She is the first among saints, I have no problem asking Mary to pray for me, We honor Mary because of her Son. I don’t buy the apparitions for a second.
 
The more non-Catholics understand Catholic ascetism and the science of perfection…union with God’s will…and they can spiritually experience the teachings…all drawn on the Paschal Mystery of Christ and His resurrection and ascension into heaven, then they will better understand the shared reality of sinlessness that is between Mother and Son.

There is no other creature like Mary.

I am cradle Catholic. I did not come to understand Mary, all through parochial school…only that she is the Mother of Christ and deserves our veneration. But I would look at the all white praying madonna statue in our church, and the image properly conveyed she was all holy…but it also misconstrued the message that said she was indifferent…I focused on Christ.

When I came to live among the Portuguese and Italian missionaries…there is when my living relationship with Mary began…I came to her in a relationship where she is alive and connected to me…on Christmas Day, 1974…the room was filled with the presence of heaven…she extended the light of heaven into my being, and she made the suffering of those around me lighter…

I did not understand the beliefs about the state of the soul and perfection until I was going through the Dialogues of S. Catherine of Siena…

There is a book out, favorite of seminarians, ‘The Fulfillment of All Desire’, that is a good intro introduction to the spiritual life…of which Mary excells ‘Par Excellence’…
 
Anna_Scott said:
I have encountered some sharp disagreements among Anglicans regarding the Blessed Virgin Mary.

So, Anglicans: What are your beliefs about the Blessed Virgin Mary?

Please feel free to pick and choose one or more issues from this list or add some of your own for discussion:

Mary as Theotokos or Mother of God‎
Perpetual Virginity
Assumption
Immaculate Conception
Mediatrix
Co-Redemptrix
Her Place within the Communion of Saints
Requests for Her Intercession
Veneration
Other Beliefs/Doctrines

Anna
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yes to Theotokos
probably to Perpetual Virginity
I guess to the Immaculate Conception (how important is that to Christian faith?)
yes to Mediatrix
not sure what Co-Redemtrix means
absolutely to her Place in the Communion of Saints
of course I request her intercession
if you want to venerate her that is fine. not my practice, but it is entirely proper.

I recite Ave Maria in Latin often.
 
Usbek_de_Perse said:
yes to Theotokos
probably to Perpetual Virginity
I guess to the Immaculate Conception (how important is that to Christian faith?)
yes to Mediatrix
not sure what Co-Redemtrix means
absolutely to her Place in the Communion of Saints
of course I request her intercession
if you want to venerate her that is fine. not my practice, but it is entirely proper.

I recite Ave Maria in Latin often.
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Usbek de Perse,
Thanks for your answers. Glad you joined the discussion.

Peace and blessings,
Anna
 
Michael85 said:
As far as I know, the Roman Catholic Church has never proclaimed dogmatically that Mary is Co-Redemptrix and Mediatrix of All Grace.
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Michael85,
That is my understanding as well. Perhaps Catholics will shed some light on this.

Anna
 
GaryTaylor said:
They want the Pope to, however he has been silent. They have the documentation though.
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You mean Vox Populi Mariae Mediatrici? Yes, they’re quite committed to seeing a new Marian dogmatic definition.

Interestingly enough, I was just now checking online for that group’s official name, and I came across an article beginning with the words ‘We are all privileged to be living during the climax of the universally designated “Age of Mary”.’ (emphasis added) :hmmm:
 
Peter_J said:
You mean Vox Populi Mariae Mediatrici

? Yes, they’re quite committed to seeing a new Marian dogmatic definition.

The Pope will not move, unless prompted by the Holy Spirit. Pope Benedict, I believe, has already stated that he does not see a need to do so.
Interestingly enough, I was just now checking online for that group’s official name, and I came across an article beginning with the words 'We are all privileged to be living during the climax of the universally
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pablope said:
I would not give much weight to their statements unless followed by an Imprimatur and Nihil Obstat…or there is an approval from the Vatican’s CDF.
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But since the “Age of Mary” has been universally designated as such, it hardly needs an Imprimatur. 😉 😃
 
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