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Holland
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Is being truly angry at God sinful? I had a priest tell me no but if being angry at another person is sinful then why isn’t it sinful when we are angry at God?
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FightingFat
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Well, I don’t know that you could give it a simple yes/no answer. To me if someone was angry at God-- because someone they loved had died or suffered in some way, they are usually angry because they do not understand God and need someone to be angry at. Judging them isn’t helpful and it would provide an opportunity to talk thropugh their feelings.
Anger is an emotion, and is neither right nor wrong. It’s what you do as a result that can be sinful.
So you’re angry with God, perhaps (hypothetically). Best thing to do, tell him. Yell at him. Tell him how bad you feel and even scream “Why Lord?” Pour it all out. He’s certain to listen.
Just don’t blaspheme him, curse him, or reject him.
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Holland
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I think I get it. So anger, despite it being listed as one of the capital sins, can be justified in some circumstances? If for instance, it is based on confusion as to why something is happening, it is OK? If you take your confusion a step further and start blaming God, then it would be sinful, right?
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Jennifer123
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There is indeed a “righteous anger” which is acceptable in the case of something that is an egregious act against the Lord, like having a “righteous anger” over abortion, or some other heinous act against God. But it is a balanced and reasonable act, not a wild, out of control act looking for vengeance.
But it is indeed a sin to have anger towards God, we are human and can expect to maybe feel that way sometimes, but it should be confessed. It is a prideful act that assumes one should have more control than God, who knows more than you about what is best for you. We should never ever blame God considering what He has done and will always do for us.
Anger itself is also a “murderous” act in the sense of the 5th commandment:
Extreme Anger—"Anger is a desire for revenge. If anger reaches the point of a deliberate desire to kill or seriously wound a neighbor, it is gravely against charity; it is a mortal sin (CCC 2302). Christ speaks against anger saying, “Everyone who is angry with his brother shall be liable to judgement (Matthew 5:22).”
saintaquinas.com/mortal_sin.html
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Daniel_Marsh
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It is possible to be angery without sinning. Jesus was angery and cleared the temple of the money changers. Paul tells us to be angery, but don’t sin, and don’t let the sun go down on your anger. If you are mad at God, talk to him about it. But, be warned, you might get the response that Job got.
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Liberanosamalo
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I don’t know how much of a sin it is, and whether or not God looks at our anger the way we look at our two-year-old’s tantrum when they don’t get ice cream for breakfast… if I were God, I’d be amused at all those little people down there shaking their fists at me. 
But it is an indication of some good things. It shows a lot of faith. You can’t be angry at someone you don’t believe in. It shows a strong personal relationship. (If you thought God was some passive detached being, there would be no point to anger.) It shows a sense that you are dependent on God. (Otherwise, anger would be futile. If you were really in charge, you’d be angry at yourself. Instead, you are paying God the compliment of acknowleging that all comes from Him.)
So I think a good confessor is able to take that “anger” we confess and redirect the emotions to a stronger relationship with God. Anger is not a problem with God. Apathy is. He even told us the hot and cold He can take… it’s the lukewarm He spits from His mouth.
But it is an indication of some good things. It shows a lot of faith. You can’t be angry at someone you don’t believe in. It shows a strong personal relationship. (If you thought God was some passive detached being, there would be no point to anger.) It shows a sense that you are dependent on God. (Otherwise, anger would be futile. If you were really in charge, you’d be angry at yourself. Instead, you are paying God the compliment of acknowleging that all comes from Him.)
So I think a good confessor is able to take that “anger” we confess and redirect the emotions to a stronger relationship with God. Anger is not a problem with God. Apathy is. He even told us the hot and cold He can take… it’s the lukewarm He spits from His mouth.
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NMJenny
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There is also such a thing as “righteous anger” toward persons. Years ago I was very angry over what a couple of people were doing to a very close friend, just out of their meaness not because of anything she had done.
I went to confession to talk about it with my priest at that time (whom I really trusted as he was very orthodox). He told me about righteous anger and that this was obviously a case of that, and not sin, just not to let it take me over…
I went to confession to talk about it with my priest at that time (whom I really trusted as he was very orthodox). He told me about righteous anger and that this was obviously a case of that, and not sin, just not to let it take me over…
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gradstud35
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God loves you. Everything he does is for your benefit even if you don’t have the wisdom to understand it or not. So I would have to say I respectfully disagree with your priest. I, too, have been told by a priest that it is not a sin to be angry with God. But I confessed it anyway. Find a priest you can trust and accept God’s grace.
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quasimodo
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The opposite of love is indifference. If you are angry at God, you are not indifferent or lukewarm. Anger with God can be a prayer.
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look3467
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If I may put in my two cents worth?
Without going into deep detail, anger against God is a fleshly thing.
Consider the whipping Jesus received and the torturous treatment and finally, nailing to the cross, was that not a display of the anger of mankind towards God’s love?
As if to say, why did you put me here amidst all this suffering and hell.
So, it is a natural thing to feel and think that way until we are able to see what the real love of God is, then we can understand why things happen when they do.
God is so loving, that there is absolutely nothing we can say or do that He can’t forgive.
But like a faithful parent, He loves His children even though they may get angry at Him, but He in no way will be angry with us.
He has nothing to learn, but we have allot to learn, so we must suffer to learn.
I hope this helps.
Peace>>>AJ
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teachccd
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Bingo! It’s when you quit communicating with God that it’s sinful. Expressing anger shows an emotion of not understanding His will. He’s o.k. with that because He told us that His ways are not our ways.
Anger, in and of itself, is not sinful. Tell God and then listen to what He says. I did when my dad died eight years ago. Now I am a stonger Catholic than I ever was before. I teach the faith and am considering the diaconate program. If I hadn’t listened, I could be in an entirely different place now. But my life changed when I was angry with God and now I know why…God Bless…teachccd
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Dale_M
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The Psalms frequently express anger at God. Here is one example
usccb.org/nab/bible/psalms/psalm44.htm
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TraditionalCath
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that is false. blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is unforgivable. it wont be forgiven in this life, or the next.
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look3467
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May I take you back to the cross for a second? The soldiers, the high priests all rejected Jesus and crucified Him.
Now, Jesus was accused of blasphemy was He not?
Jesus at the cross forgave one and all as a completed mission to save all mankind as written in the Gospel, that God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that by Him all man should be saved.
The Holy Spirit is Jesus in Spirit speaking to us daily. To reject Him, is to our demise.
After our death, there is no further consequences for there is no work in Heaven.
But every knee shall bow before Jesus and will then recognize Him for who He is, Almighty God.
But for the mean time while we are still in the flesh, work is required. Good work merits blessings, evil work, merits consequences.
So lets us do good that blessings may flow and shun evil.
Peace>>>AJ
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TraditionalCath
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the bible proves you wrong friend. here is what it says about blaspheming against the Holy Ghost:
MATTHEW 12: 31-32 “Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or in the age to come”.
LUKE 12:10, "And everyone that says a word against the Son of Man, that will be forgiven; But he that blasphemes against The Holy Spirit will not be forgiven
MARK 3:29, “Whoever blasphemes against The Holy Spirit will never have forgiveness, but is guilty of everlasting sin.”MATTHEW 12: 31-32 “Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or in the age to come”.
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Jesusstreet
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It is of course a violation of the first and greatest commandment, LOVE THE LORD OUR GOD with all our hearts, minds, souls, and might.
You wouldn’t like it if GOD was angry at you.
However it may be more an error of who you are mad at. If people were familiar with GOD they would know GOD is full of LOVE, being LOVE itself. GOD is merciful and good. Often times people are made at the world, and the “bad deal” they got. They want to be happy, or things don’t turn out right, but instead of having faith in CHRIST, that HE will wipe away all tears and knowing this world doesn’t hold promises except that we will be saved in CHRIST for believing and keeping the commandments.
First we should ask ourselves who are we mad at? The world? Is it because we didn’t get what we wanted, like money? Are we made at our neighbors who weren’t fair to us. Because GOD didn’t do these things to us. Are we mad at the devil who is trying to “get our goat” and make us made at GOD.
I hope you see the TRUTH of this. Because we need to TRUST that JESUS will make it all better. Often times this anger may be preceived to be at GOD but why then take it out on one another? Because that is being angry at GOD is we persecute one another. Therefore don’t call one another fool, because this is anger at GOD to be angry with one another is to be angry at GOD. When in TRUTH it wasn’t GOD who made you mad. GOD wants only good things for you.
FAITH, HOPE AND LOVE are gifts of GOD, the gentility and peace of the HOLY SPIRIT are gifts of GOD.
It is certain that GOD does get angry, in righteous indignation at sin. and GOD’s cup of wrath is stored up in seven Angels who will pour out this wrath upon mankind at the end of days. We should be pleading for mercy, worried about our salvation, not mad that we didn’t get an even break. our even break comes in HEAVEN when JESUS will wipe away all tears.
Clearly GOD doesn’t sin, so the righteous indignation that JESUS had poured out on those who defiled the temple is not something any of us could legitimately do. That is there is ample reason to have anger, but we in the HOLY SPIRIT give LOVE and forgiveness and pray for mercy unto ourselves in that we are sinners. We desire mercy so have mercy on one another. GOD has no sin, and still grants us mercy for LOVE of us. But some sins as the defilement of the temple does make GOD mad. That temple is the BODY OF CHRIST.
GOD have mercy on us all, and bring us to EVERLASTING LIFE.
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look3467
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While Jesus was here, one could speak against Him and be forgiven, but now that He is gone, yet back as the Holy Spirit, if we neglect it, then we are condemned without it while we yet live in the flesh, but after death, our knees will be bent at His feet, then shall we know who He was, is and for ever be, thus our souls been purchased by His blood are all His.
So, to understand the spiritual message of that verse, is to know that today without the Holy Spirits guidance, we are lost, period!
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Jaypeeto4
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“Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit” isn’t blasphemy in the traditionally-understood sense. Remember, people have blasphemed the Father and been forgiven, etc. The Holy Spirit is no holier than the Father. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are ONE GOD, and people have blasphemed God with their words and been forgiven, and when they blasphemed God with their words, all three persons were spoken against. We have to take the scriptures in their context, as the Church teaches.
The sin that Jesus called “blasphemy against the Holy Spirit” is a sin first of the heart, of a heart that is hardened beyond the possibility of repentance in the face of the manifest works of the Holy Spirit over and over again. The Pharisees had repeatedly accused Jesus of being a demoniac. They said it in Matthew 9, and then later in Matthew chapter 12, which prompted Jesus to warn them about unforgivable sin. These men had hearts as hard as stone. What they said about Jesus being demonized wasn’t a one-time emotional outburst due to confusion, hurt feelings, or anything like that. They were self-righteous, hateful, prideful men. They had just seen Jesus heal a man with a withered hand by simply asking the man to stretch out his hand and it was healed. But because it was done on a sabbath, they immediately took counsel with each other to find a way to kill Jesus. Imagine being so hard-hearted that you RESENT a man for HEALING a sick person. That’s depraved, yet that’s how those Pharisees were. They did this stuff to Jesus over and over again, infuriated at him because he HEALED people on the sabbath. You have to have a heart of STONE to call a man a Demoniac because he heals a man and makes him whole (by divine power !! ) on the Sabbath. Such prideful, vicious persons can never be revived to repentance. That is why Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Pope John Paul II, and all Catholic theologians hold the Unforgivable Sin to be the state of final impenitence, because there is no sin that will not be forgiven if the person repents. A emotional outburst, even if blasphemous, due to hurt, confusion, fear, whatever, so long as you repent, is NOT the sin that Jesus referred to as “blaspheming the Holy Spirit.” It is the Spirit that PROVOKES repentance.
Jaypeeto4
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The sin that Jesus called “blasphemy against the Holy Spirit” is a sin first of the heart, of a heart that is hardened beyond the possibility of repentance in the face of the manifest works of the Holy Spirit over and over again. The Pharisees had repeatedly accused Jesus of being a demoniac. They said it in Matthew 9, and then later in Matthew chapter 12, which prompted Jesus to warn them about unforgivable sin. These men had hearts as hard as stone. What they said about Jesus being demonized wasn’t a one-time emotional outburst due to confusion, hurt feelings, or anything like that. They were self-righteous, hateful, prideful men. They had just seen Jesus heal a man with a withered hand by simply asking the man to stretch out his hand and it was healed. But because it was done on a sabbath, they immediately took counsel with each other to find a way to kill Jesus. Imagine being so hard-hearted that you RESENT a man for HEALING a sick person. That’s depraved, yet that’s how those Pharisees were. They did this stuff to Jesus over and over again, infuriated at him because he HEALED people on the sabbath. You have to have a heart of STONE to call a man a Demoniac because he heals a man and makes him whole (by divine power !! ) on the Sabbath. Such prideful, vicious persons can never be revived to repentance. That is why Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Pope John Paul II, and all Catholic theologians hold the Unforgivable Sin to be the state of final impenitence, because there is no sin that will not be forgiven if the person repents. A emotional outburst, even if blasphemous, due to hurt, confusion, fear, whatever, so long as you repent, is NOT the sin that Jesus referred to as “blaspheming the Holy Spirit.” It is the Spirit that PROVOKES repentance.
Jaypeeto4
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