Animal Rights

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That_one_guy said:
Yay!

Organizations like PETA are a good start.There are extremists everywhere.I understand that PETAs philosophy doesn’t go hand in hand with the precepts of the Catholic Church.But, they do make people aware of certain issues.
Some people would call me an extremist!Of course, I don’t think I am.
The ASPCA should be supported,too.
I am actually very excited about this sudden attention to animals.
I do not think that animals should be given the right to vote.That’s just plain absurd!And I don’t think that animals are people,too.But, they are a part of Gods creation.And we need to act like the stewards we have been called to be!
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Outstanding post! You’re NOT an extremist. I feel much the way you do. I appreciate the sentiment!
 
I wonder,…I know somebody thought of this before I did.But,isn’t it sort of interesting how some of the first eyes to have seen our Savior at His birth were animals?🤷
 
That_one_guy said:
I wonder,…I know somebody thought of this before I did.But,isn’t it sort of interesting how some of the first eyes to have seen our Savior at His birth were animals?🤷
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animals and their caretakers. why did the angel choose to appear to shepherds… why didn’t the angel go to the nearest pub or inn and get the people from there to come and adore Him? :hmmm:
 
cathybramble said:
animals and their caretakers. why did the angel choose to appear to shepherds… why didn’t the angel go to the nearest pub or inn and get the people from there to come and adore Him? :hmmm:
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The folks in the pub would’ve thought they were seeing pink elephants:p

The guys at the Inn would’ve said “WE HAVE NO ROOMS!”

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(Hi,Cathy:wave:)
 
Et_Cetera said:
In short, don’t buy from KFC. They treat the animals poorly, and the food is disgusting rubbish that should not enter a human body.
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The food may be disgusting to you, but it’s a falacy to believe KFC treats animals poorly. The reason is that KFC purchases its already slaughtered chicken from local producers. I am from Newfoundland, Canada, and KFC buys chicken from Country Ribbon, a local farm here that produces chicken. This is the same everywhere. Perhaps individual farms are cruel to chickens, but KFC is not directly involved in raising them.
 
cathybramble said:
hey sweet 😃

is it snowing there? it is here :snowing:
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oh yes.But,this is off topic.So,everybody take your animals inside.If you live near me or Cathy.I don’t care if they are born with fur coats.It’s cold out there!!!😃
 
phil8888 said:
The food may be disgusting to you, but it’s a falacy to believe KFC treats animals poorly. The reason is that KFC purchases its already slaughtered chicken from local producers. I am from Newfoundland, Canada, and KFC buys chicken from Country Ribbon, a local farm here that produces chicken. This is the same everywhere. Perhaps individual farms are cruel to chickens, but KFC is not directly involved in raising them.
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KFC should not be doing business with people who abuse animals. they are as responsible for that abuse as the people who do it because they are funding these operations.
 
phil8888 said:
The food may be disgusting to you, but it’s a falacy to believe KFC treats animals poorly. The reason is that KFC purchases its already slaughtered chicken from local producers. I am from Newfoundland, Canada, and KFC buys chicken from Country Ribbon, a local farm here that produces chicken. This is the same everywhere. Perhaps individual farms are cruel to chickens, but KFC is not directly involved in raising them.
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I am sure that not all suppliers of poultry are inhumane.But if KFC buys from a supplier that is inhumane,then they ARE contributing to it.Whether it is direct or indirect.There are plenty of articles I could link to which support this.
 
cathybramble said:
KFC should not be doing business with people who abuse animals. they are as responsible for that abuse as the people who do it because they are funding these operations.
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Uhh, sort of. I forget the distinction here, but there is material cooperation and another type. Basically they are not directly associated with raising the animals, so they cannot be held responsible for their practices. Plus, I’m sure if they find out one of their distributors is abusing animals, they would sever ties with them because it could make them look bad. KFC probably deals with hundreds of producers.
 
That_one_guy said:
I am sure that not all suppliers of poultry are inhumane.But if KFC buys from a supplier that is inhumane,then they ARE contributing to it.Whether it is direct or indirect.There are plenty of articles I could link to which support this.
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That_one_guy:
But is it material or formal cooperation? Anyone know?

Half the chicken we get here in our province comes from Country Ribbon, so either half the people in the province are participating in something immoral, including KFC, or no one is.
 
phil8888 said:
But is it material or formal cooperation? Anyone know?

Half the chicken we get here in our province comes from Country Ribbon, so either half the people in the province are participating in something immoral, including KFC, or no one is.
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The argument is immaterial(ha ha a pun!)
I don’t eat chicken.So, it’s not my problem.And I know nothing about County Ribbon.But,I will shortly, thanks to the internet.
But,just as there are sins of omission, it is likewise irresponsible of the consumer to knowingly buy a product which they know contributes to the ill-welfare of ANY living being.
 
That_one_guy said:
The argument is immaterial(ha ha a pun!)
I don’t eat chicken.So, it’s not my problem.And I know nothing about County Ribbon.But,I will shortly, thanks to the internet.
But,just as there are sins of omission, it is likewise irresponsible of the consumer to knowingly buy a product which they know contributes to the ill-welfare of ANY living being.
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Yeh, I mean if I found out they tortured animals to get their meat, I’d stop buying from them. But there are government regulations, and unless people know otherwise, they are not culpable.
 
phil8888 said:
Yeh, I mean if I found out they tortured animals to get their meat, I’d stop buying from them. But there are government regulations, and unless people know otherwise, they are not culpable.
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well,I’ve been speed surfing.Country Ribbon seems to be free of lawsuits and protesters.And even seems to have a clean bill of health.So,Kudos to them!!!
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That_one_guy said:
well,I’ve been speed surfing.Country Ribbon seems to be free of lawsuits and protesters.And even seems to have a clean bill of health.So,Kudos to them!!!
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Thanks, I mean Newfoundlanders and Country Ribbon chicken know what they’re doing when it comes to chicken! haha
 
buffalo said:
Then treat then kindly. Americans spend billions on pet care and veterinarian care each year. Imagine how many Catholic Schools could be funded, hospitals, adoptions etc…

I believe humans should be priorities.

You can sponsor a child through (Who is CFCA? We help families in developing countries put food on the table and send their children
to school so that, together, we can end the cycle of poverty) .CFCA for 30.00 per month. How many do this? How many of us Catholics have pets that we spend over 30.00 for? It’s about choices.
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So we should let all animals starve until every human in the world is well cared for? We should close down all animal shelters and turn them into homeless shelters? Everyone who has a pet should stop caring for it and put it down and use the money sponsor a child? This seems pretty unrealistic to me and ignores people who have a special concern for animals. You can’t expect an animal organization to give money to Catholic schools anymore than you can expect a crises pregnancy center to give to a global warming initiative.
 
phil8888 said:
Yeh, I mean if I found out they tortured animals to get their meat, I’d stop buying from them. But there are government regulations, and unless people know otherwise, they are not culpable.
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they have been told of the abuse, they have been shown videos, but they refuse to sever ties with those suppliers. they are knowingly keeping these companies in business by purchasing from them. that is why they are culpable.

because KFC is one big company, if you want to convince them to have better standards for suppliers, the whole company should be boycotted even though in your area they get their chicken from a more reputable supplier. shouldn’t they have that standard for their entire company, not just here and there? boycotting certain stores here and there is not going to get their attention. enough people boycotting all of them most certainly would induce some company-wide policy changes.
 
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