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cathybramble
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yaaaay! salonika gets to keep the cats!!!
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That_one_guy
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But, don’t train them to fetch the paper!!yaaaay! salonika gets to keep the cats!!!
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cathybramble
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i don’t think that having a dog and giving it the proper food and care is an immoderate love of riches.Bingo! - that is exactly what the Pope talks about when he mentions the trappings of materialism and secularism.
Jesus saith to him: If thou wilt be perfect, go sell what thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come follow me.
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“The Church’s love for the poor . . . is a part of her constant tradition.” This love is inspired by the Gospel of the Beatitudes, of the poverty of Jesus, and of his concern for the poor.235 Love for the poor is even one of the motives for the duty of working so as to "be able to give to those in need."236 It extends not only to material poverty but also to the many forms of cultural and religious poverty.237
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Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have rusted, and their rust will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure for the last days. Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out; and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in pleasure; you have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. You have condemned, you have killed the righteous man; he does not resist you.238 [2446](javascript
When we attend to the needs of those in want, we give them what is theirs, not ours. More than performing works of mercy, we are paying a debt of justice.241
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Salonika
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And I thought cats were put on earth to train us! They certainly think they were.
They have trained me to take over some of their grooming as they are now older and find some of it a bit of a challenge.
They are purring at the moment pleased their will be no change in their lifestyle.
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First let me say I am an animal lover.
Second I will say the title of this thread is an oxymoron.
Finally I MUST say that animals server a very important purpose in the lives of people. Yes, that includes pets. Pets help people in many ways. For example, my cat helps to keep my elderly and blind mother company. That is very important to someone who cannot get out often or easily.
My kitty helps keep some of the undesirable critters under control.
When we, as people, take on the responsibility of an animal, whether it is a companion or a working animal, we are responsible for it.
The notion that animals have rights is as silly as the notion that we should abandon all animals as long as there is a needy person somewhere in the world. As in almost all things, the truth lies in moderation, self-control and well formed prudential judgment.
Second I will say the title of this thread is an oxymoron.
Finally I MUST say that animals server a very important purpose in the lives of people. Yes, that includes pets. Pets help people in many ways. For example, my cat helps to keep my elderly and blind mother company. That is very important to someone who cannot get out often or easily.
My kitty helps keep some of the undesirable critters under control.
When we, as people, take on the responsibility of an animal, whether it is a companion or a working animal, we are responsible for it.
The notion that animals have rights is as silly as the notion that we should abandon all animals as long as there is a needy person somewhere in the world. As in almost all things, the truth lies in moderation, self-control and well formed prudential judgment.
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CatsAndDogs
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Cats!?yaaaay! salonika gets to keep the cats!!!
I hate cats.
I really do.
…actually, they’re ok for about 32 seconds, but then they should be sent to kill vermin.
Leave my username out of this discussion, if you would, please.
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CatsAndDogs
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PETA is evil.Hi everyone. What rights should animals have according to the Catholic Church? I think they at least deserve the right to be happy, healthy, well fed, well watered, and that they have the right to proper shelter. What is your opinion?Should we support organizations such as PETA or is PETA too extreme?
ELF is evil.
Any “animals (or trees, or rocks) are our equals”-based organizations are evil.
Any “relieve suffering whether human or animal”-based organizations are good.
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CHRISTINE77
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I think it’s fine for people to have pets, but the pet industry is out of control. Dogs don’t need clothing, grooming and dog treats, psychology and luxury items. Dogs are dogs. Actually table scraps are good for dogs, they don’t even need special dog food. A dog can be a watchdog, a companion, a hunting animal, a herding animal, etc. They really need to earn their keep though, because dogs were breed to help man. They get spoiled and mean-tempered if they do not have a job or purpose, just like people. Cats should roam free and kill vermin and mice.
The main thing is that people are treating thier pets like children, and pets are not children, they are animals.
The main thing is that people are treating thier pets like children, and pets are not children, they are animals.
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CatsAndDogs
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You are my new hero! May I spread the word of your greatness to the far winds?
May I be your new Secretary of State,… or your replacement for your old Senate seat (though I have no money)?
Many cheers to RPP! I shall call you “The Great Ripper”!
Hoorah, Ripper! (pronounced: “Rippah!”, even though I’m not from Oz.)
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cathybramble
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Lolz… church sign generator bah… i could have made them in photoshop and figured that’s how it was done
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Salonika
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When my first two cats found me the vet gave me similar advice about their diets - give then the meat and vegs but leave out dessert and forget the tea, coffee and alcohol!
My cats decided they could stop hunting when they moved in - pleased about this as its less danger to any birds - especially indigenous birds - around.
I consider my cats my companions - certainly not my children.
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That_one_guy
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PETA has brought alot of things to light that would’ve otherwise been ignored.I don’t agree with everything they say or do.But,in this instance they may be seen as having done SOME good.
AS for ELF,…well,…anybody that employs terrorist tactics is evil.
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That_one_guy
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Ok Cats and Dogs.Cats!?
I hate cats.
I really do.
…actually, they’re ok for about 32 seconds, but then they should be sent to kill vermin.
Leave my username out of this discussion, if you would, please.
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cathybramble
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OMG It’s raining cats and dogs !!Cats!?
I hate cats.
I really do.
…actually, they’re ok for about 32 seconds, but then they should be sent to kill vermin.
Leave my username out of this discussion, if you would, please.
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Oscarthecat
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This is a common misunderstanding.
The Catholic understanding of a soul is that it is the animating principle of all livings thing- that is, everything has a soul.
The difference between humans and animals is that animals don’t have human souls, and human souls are immortal, whereas animal souls are not.
There is no specific indication in salvation history that animals have immortal souls, but they do have souls, because they are alive.
Are you implying that that the soul is responsible for emotions like happiness?
This is just plainly wrong.
There is no basis, scientific or scriptural, for that statement.
The soul may be able to experience emotion separately from the body, such that we continue to experience emotion after death but before the resurrection of the body…but emotional experience is also a function of the brain.
We can map brain structures in human beings and animals very effectively- many types of animals have been shown to experience a wide variety of emotions based on the fact that the emotional center of their brains respond very similarly to human brains when exposed to stimuli. Mammals, higher order avians, even some types of fish and invertebrates, like octopi, demonstrate brain activity consistent with emotion.
By contrast, other types of animals, like reptiles, lack the particular brain structure responsible for emotion- and so it can be assumed that they don’t experience emotion.
I agree with you on this.
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Sam_Maloney
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PETA are the people who equate ham with the Jewish Holacaust.
Decent people should condemn them and have nothing to do with them.
DO NOT trust any ‘information’ they ‘uncover’: it’s pure propaganda for the feeble minded.
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