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You could be on to something, but I do prefer a robust, healthy-looking, cheerful character style.

The latter style just seems wan and slightly creepy. Which would, however, fit wan and creepy storylines. 😃
 
Don’t personally care for the newer style which seem almost neuraaBut that’s probably just me.
I actually kinda like the newer styles better, but I agree that it’s kinda symptomatic of the general (for lack of a better term) passive ‘wimpiness’ that characterizes many recent anime. I mean, slice of life shows aren’t bad, but when you’ve got, like, ten (I’m exaggerating here) slice of life shows this season and ten more the next, it gets very tedious, cliche, and annoying. It makes you wish for the cheery fantasy of the 90s or heck, even the hot-bloodedness of the 80s.

This is actually why I loved Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure (one of the last anime I’ve watched). The anime breaks the recent mold in so many ways.

And while we’re at it, to be honest I’ve never been that much into moe. I tend to like strong, independent, active female characters (that, and girls in glasses) - I just find many girls touted as moe to be too passive and too sickly sweet for my liking.
 
I’ll say this is generally accurate. I should add that while in the '90s you see a tendency to use brighter, more vivid colors, in recent anime (at least much of the ones that target 20-something audiences and air late at night) you see a preference for more subdued, even luminescent coloring. You still see vivid coloring in children’s anime or anime geared toward older audience (yes, believe it or not Pretty Cure is also geared towards 19-to-30-year-old males - the horse’s mouth says so). And yeah, the large eyes or the outrageously colorful ‘anime hair’ aren’t so commonplace anymore as it once was.
Is accurate for representing the popular styles from two decades. Personally, I prefer more realistic styles.

I agree about the subdued colors. That is noticeable in post 2004 shows aproximately, but recently, more colorful anime has been produced.
I actually kinda like the newer styles better, but I agree that it’s kinda symptomatic of the general (for lack of a better term) passive ‘wimpiness’ that characterizes many recent anime. I mean, slice of life shows aren’t bad, but when you’ve got, like, ten (I’m exaggerating here) slice of life shows this season and ten more the next, it gets very tedious, cliche, and annoying. It makes you wish for the cheery fantasy of the 90s or heck, even the hot-bloodedness of the 80s.

This is actually why I loved Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure (one of the last anime I’ve watched). The anime breaks the recent mold in so many ways.

And while we’re at it, to be honest I’ve never been that much into moe. I tend to like strong, independent, active female characters (that, and girls in glasses) - I just find many girls touted as moe to be too passive and too sickly sweet for my liking.
From the styles in the image, I prefer something similar to the new one, although I think more visible pupils are better.

About Jojo, the seventh and eighth parts include something really bad. A blasphemous depiction of our Lord. In the story of the 7th part (SBR), the characters are in a horse race that has a secret purpose, getting parts of a corpse to gain powers. And guess which Person is used in the story for the corpse… I haven’t read SBR but I’ve read the wiki, visited forums, etc.
 
I like the newer style better, but I suppose it depends on the story. Different stories work better with different art styles, you know? You have to have an art style that fits the subject matter, because the art style does a lot to communicate the tone of the series.

Now I’m imagining Dragon Ball Z with the art style of Princess Tutu. 😛

I wonder if the change in aesthetic reflects a change in subject matter? The 90’s art style makes me think of fantasy epics or magical girls, while the 10’s art style makes me think of less dramatic slice of life type stories. I could just be associating them with specific works, though. Or making stuff up. 😛
I associate Magical Girls more with the new style, although I get what you are saying.

Effectively, different stories, require appropriate styles, but there are productions that play with the concept and include unexpected visual styles.
 
You could be on to something, but I do prefer a robust, healthy-looking, cheerful character style.

The latter style just seems wan and slightly creepy. Which would, however, fit wan and creepy storylines. 😃
I think the new style gives a calm feel. Maybe because of that has been popular for slice of life stories.
 
Cue all the people who’ll take offense at ‘Touhou is anime’. 😃
It’s not anime but it’s certainly part of the culture. Real steeped in it for sure. I’ve lost count of the many times Reimu, Marisa, and Sakuya have been cosplayed. It goes double for the fan art. XD
Don’t personally care for the newer style, which seems almost neurasthenic. But that’s probably just me.
This is gonna sound weird but I see and don’t see a difference. I’ve enjoyed both styles and many similar ones in between. Hence, I use the term moe to describe the very basics of anime/manga style. There are some styles out there that are within anime (e.g. DBZ ugh) but aren’t moe in any sense.

Enjoying the subtle difference between them is really just the same as enjoying the differences between my favorite flavors of ice cream. Or meat. (Dang, I’m getting hungry.)

So long as the faces seem round, the eyes pretty, and absolutely zero detail on the lips. It’s moe enough for me. 8P

(On that note, look to the evolution of Fairy Tail’s style from a One Piece clone to one that’s more developed in terms of anatomy and bishoujo/bishonen faces.)
 
I actually kinda like the newer styles better, but I agree that it’s kinda symptomatic of the general (for lack of a better term) passive ‘wimpiness’ that characterizes many recent anime. I mean, slice of life shows aren’t bad, but when you’ve got, like, ten (I’m exaggerating here) slice of life shows this season and ten more the next, it gets very tedious, cliche, and annoying. It makes you wish for the cheery fantasy of the 90s or heck, even the hot-bloodedness of the 80s.

This is actually why I loved Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure (one of the last anime I’ve watched). The anime breaks the recent mold in so many ways.

And while we’re at it, to be honest I’ve never been that much into moe. I tend to like strong, independent, active female characters (that, and girls in glasses) - I just find many girls touted as moe to be too passive and too sickly sweet for my liking.
Welllll…I guess I’m with you on the hot-blooded stuff, but all too often here I feel like a fish out of water, with my strictly old-school tastes.
 
About Jojo, the seventh and eighth parts include something really bad. A blasphemous depiction of our Lord. In the story of the 7th part (SBR), the characters are in a horse race that has a secret purpose, getting parts of a corpse to gain powers. And guess which Person is used in the story for the corpse… I haven’t read SBR but I’ve read the wiki, visited forums, etc.
Well, to be fair, SBR is set in an alternate universe. And well, if you want to be precise (spoilers):

If we go by SBR’s scenario, the Mormons are (partly) right in that Jesus did go to future America after He rose from the dead :rolleyes:, where He basically lived the rest of His days and died (again) of old age. Then His corpse miraculously divides itself.

Now the treatment of Jesus in certain manga could be a whole other topic entirely: aside from SBR, I could also name Billy Bat and Saint Young Men here.
It’s not anime but it’s certainly part of the culture. Real steeped in it for sure. I’ve lost count of the many times Reimu, Marisa, and Sakuya have been cosplayed. It goes double for the fan art. XD
Touhou must be the only fandom where you can get away with not playing (or even knowing) the original games and still call yourself a ‘fan’. 😃 (Still trudging my way through EoSD; played the trial versions of most of the others.)
 
Touhou must be the only fandom where you can get away with not playing (or even knowing) the original games and still call yourself a ‘fan’. 😃 (Still trudging my way through EoSD; played the trial versions of most of the others.)
I could never play the danmaku games to save my life. The fighting games on the other hand, I felt I didn’t play enough. I LOVED blowing away the AI with Patchouli. :3
 
I could never play the danmaku games to save my life. The fighting games on the other hand, I felt I didn’t play enough. I LOVED blowing away the AI with Patchouli. :3
I could never get the fighting games to work properly on my computer (hey, six years and running), so I’m pretty much stuck with the danmaku games. 😛
 
I could never get the fighting games to work properly on my computer (hey, six years and running), so I’m pretty much stuck with the danmaku games. 😛
Well, we’re in the same boat actually. I shudder to even estimate the age of my machine. :o I just managed to play it until it couldn’t take it anymore. ^^;

Ah well, off to watch Little Busters. (I know it’s a little late on my part but it’s definitely another example of the moe style that I’d highlight.)
 
Well, to be fair, SBR is set in an alternate universe. And well, if you want to be precise (spoilers):

If we go by SBR’s scenario, the Mormons are (partly) right in that Jesus did go to future America after He rose from the dead :rolleyes:, where He basically lived the rest of His days and died (again) of old age. Then His corpse miraculously divides itself.

Now the treatment of Jesus in certain manga could be a whole other topic entirely: aside from SBR, I could also name Billy Bat and Saint Young Men here.
Alternate universe or not, still I find it bad.
 
I think the new style gives a calm feel. Maybe because of that has been popular for slice of life stories.
We were just talking about this in school. Yeah, the consensus we reached was that in general there’s a trend toward a certain degree of naturalism/realism in many recent anime. That, and increased use of CGI.
 
We were just talking about this in school. Yeah, the consensus we reached was that in general there’s a trend toward a certain degree of naturalism/realism in many recent anime. That, and increased use of CGI.
Really? I guess I should be watching more then. I always thought most focused on either parody or the paranormal.

Slice of life is actually my second favorite genre of anime. (Fantasy being the first.) What’s weird is that, in of itself, it’s sort of another fantasy of mine. It’s like real life but not as depressing with a little more focus on the things I want to achieve (unless God miraculously decides to make me Earth’s first Planeswalker or something).
 
We were just talking about this in school. Yeah, the consensus we reached was that in general there’s a trend toward a certain degree of naturalism/realism in many recent anime. That, and increased use of CGI.
Cannot STAND CGI.

Oh well. I must be true to the old ways, and die with them if needs must.
 
Cannot STAND CGI.

Oh well. I must be true to the old ways, and die with them if needs must.
CGI is pretty good at depicting certain things, like vehicles and space battles. It’s useful for capturing the scope and depth of certain scenes, especially if there are large fictional landscapes involved. It can allow live action movies to do stunts more safely and cheaply than they otherwise would be able to. And of course, Pixar has used it to great affect in their movies.

It’s one method out of many, and I understand that it’s being overused lately. I quite like traditional animation myself, and I certainly don’t want to lose it. But I can’t put down CGI as a whole anymore- I’ve seen too many cool productions that depended on it! 🙂
 
CGI is pretty good at depicting certain things, like vehicles and space battles. It’s useful for capturing the scope and depth of certain scenes, especially if there are large fictional landscapes involved. It can allow live action movies to do stunts more safely and cheaply than they otherwise would be able to. And of course, Pixar has used it to great affect in their movies.

It’s one method out of many, and I understand that it’s being overused lately. I quite like traditional animation myself, and I certainly don’t want to lose it. But I can’t put down CGI as a whole anymore- I’ve seen too many cool productions that depended on it! 🙂
I understand…but I can TELL when CGI takes place, and to me it is a visual discord. Never liked it, even when the whole production is CGI.

I am what I am.

My palate is that way, too. Makes for some … Interesting dining experiences.
 
Hi, this is the same person who used to post as MatsudaBerry. For reasons we don’t need to discuss, I got a new account here, and this is my first post under this new name.

Anyway, for whatever reason, CGI in anime doesn’t seem to bother me too much. On the other hand, when I recently rewatched the first two seasons of Digimon in both English and Japanese, I couldn’t help but wonder why some of the Digivolution sequences used CGI and others didn’t. It was kind of strange.

I’m also inclined to agree that more natural-looking anime seem to be in vogue right now. If I had to guess why that may be the case, I would probably guess that it has something to do with the fact that slice-of-life shows are really popular, and natural-looking styles seem to work better for those.
 
I always thought of Maison Ikkoku as slice of life but I guess I was wrong. I did like the character design, if not all the characters.
 
I understand…but I can TELL when CGI takes place, and to me it is a visual discord. Never liked it, even when the whole production is CGI.

I am what I am.

My palate is that way, too. Makes for some … Interesting dining experiences.
Speaking of which, just last week I’ve learned about the difference between how the Japanese use CGI with Western animation’s use of it. I’d like to give Arpeggio of Blue Steel as an example. Arpeggio makes heavy use of CGI - in fact, it’s mostly CGI. But if you compare it to say, Pixar’s animated films, it still tries somewhat to replicate the ol’ ‘hand-drawn’ animation feel. This basically illustrates the difference in the Western and Japanese perception of CGI. What I can say is, you’ll really feel at home here. 😉

Toy Story? CGI. This? Also (mostly) CGI - including the character.

http://anifav.com/special/images/1014_ARP01_305.jpg
 
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