Ann Coulter..

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Lynn-D said:
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There are too many CINO (Catholic In Name Only) and it truly disgusts me.

me too… not only disgusting but totally unfathomable…

illogical…

(I could go on but I’m trying to be a Christian today :D)
 
Contarini said:
I don’t know why you are having trouble understanding me. It’s not as if I and several others haven’t been harping on Coulter’s call for mass murder (carpet bombing Muslim countries) for much of this thread. This is not atypical. American “conservatives” typically support the death penalty, are quick to support for just about any war the government chooses to engage in (unless it has a clearly humanitarian objective and doesn’t promote American self-interest–then they’re a bit more dubious about it) and to promote the use of ruthless means to win the war, and more broadly tend to take a “tough” approach to issues surrounding human welfare, expecting people to take care of themselves and look out for no. 1. (For instance, “conservatives” typically oppose any amnesty for illegal aliens, arguing that the sanctity of human law is far more important than the desire of poor Mexicans and other immigrants to take care of their families.) You yourself were quick to say of torture that “it’s war” and therefore any means necessary are OK. Conservatives also tend to have little regard for nonhuman life.

Given this broad pattern of comfort with violence, callous disregard for human (and animal) suffering, and promotion of individual and national self-interest, it’s understandable that many Americans are unimpressed when *these same people *oppose abortion and euthanasia and pose *with regard to these issues *as the noble champions of human life and the rights of the weak and helpless. It just doesn’t fly. Something stinks. So many liberals argue that these are false issues–that in fact promoting the rights of the unborn and those nearing the end of life is a distraction from the real issues threatening human life and dignity. This is also a bogus argument. We don’t need to pick the places where we are prolife. There is absolutely no reason why we can’t just defend human (and even nonhuman) life and dignity across the board. But for some reason the political machinery of this country seems deeply invested in preventing us from taking such a position. And those of you who promote one or another partisan vision of what it means to be “prolife” are just contributing to the problem. You are giving an excuse to your opponents on the other side of the spectrum to continue their own callous disregard for human life.

Edwin
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well, that’s your opinion…

and then there’s truth…
 
celticsfan1983 said:
Would you please go back and re-read our posts? Our dislike for Ann Coulter DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE PRO-DEATH! That has NEVER COME UP! For some stupid reason, you are equating a dislike for Ann Coulter and her hate speech as not taking the abortion cause seriously.

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well maybe poster should have said you are far LESS pro-life than … say, those who voted for McCain… those who support those who are pro-life…(A Coulter)… etc…
 
distracted said:
well maybe poster should have said you are far LESS pro-life than … say, those who voted for McCain… those who support those who are pro-life…(A Coulter)… etc…
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That makes no sense. Why the constant insertion of … ?

Am I the poster or are you referring to someone else? If it’s me, then yes I did vote for McCain.
 
celticsfan1983 said:
That makes no sense. Why the constant insertion of … ?

Am I the poster or are you referring to someone else? If it’s me, then yes I did vote for McCain.
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Ok, now i kinda like you…

kinda…

don’t like the negative stuff about Coulter but at least you’re not… well, you know… Adjectives that would describe people who don’t uh… know their… uh…

(sigh) Again, i am trying to be a Christian today…
 
jjdrury81 said:
I bet alot of the “Catholics” you hang around with vote for pro death candidates. Why ill bet they even went against the clear teachings of the Church and voted for Obama.

I personally went with the clear teachings of the Church and voted for the candidate that I thought had the best chance of increasing access to health care, improving the economic situation especially for the poor and, eventually, bringing more peace and stability to our nation.

The idea that some whacky right-wing Catholics can sit around and tell those of us on the left that we are somehow “less Catholic” than they are because we voted for a pro-choice candidate is laughable. I think abortion is evil. Just as the poster I quoted here. However, I do not believe that an outright ban is the solution. How do your boy Bush do in banning abortion?

And let us talk about Barney Frank. Frank is a good congressman. He put that loud mouthed ignorant woman in her place. Let us not forget that she was comparing increasing access to healthcare to a level that is more in line with the rest of the world to a policy that waged war on all civilization and exterminated 6 million people. I applaud Frank for not being harsher with her.
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In short for you politics trumps faith everytime. That does not suprise me in the least.
 
abortion trumps all other issues because (this should be obvious) without life there would be no other issues…
 
distracted said:
Here’s one of my favorite from Coulter:

"According to liberals, the message of Jesus… is something along the lines of ‘be nice to people.’ … In fact, Jesus’ distinctive ‘message’ was: People are sinful and need to be redeemed, and this is your lucky day because I’m here to redeem you even though you don’t deserve it and I have to get the **** kicked out of me to do it. That is the reason He is called ‘Christ the Redeemer’ rather than 'Christ the Moron Driving Around in a Volvo with a “Be Nice to People” Bumper Sticker on it.”

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This made me laugh out loud…NOW I need to get a book of hers!
 
Langdell said:
Like others, I’ve never been able to get past her abrasive approach. IMO, it’s counterproductive. The reasoned approach of someone like George Will seems to me to be much more likely to win converts.

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Miss Coulter turned ME around precisely due to her ‘abrasive’ approach. For every person, there is an entryway.

distracted is correct. The right to life precedes all other rights, and it is not given by the state, or by Satan’s cheerleaders.
 
Sailor_Kenshin said:
Miss Coulter turned ME around precisely due to her ‘abrasive’ approach. For every person, there is an entryway.
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But an entryway to what? From your posts, I am not convinced that Ms. Coulter provided you with an “entryway” to anything good or holy. In fact, your advocacy serves to discredit her further in my opinion, given the consistently immoral nature of the positions you argue on this forum.

Edwin
 
Sina said:
I can’t stand Ann Coulter. She isn’t as smart as she thinks she is.
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Most people aren’t as smart as they think they are.

I don’t know that book learning makes you smart, but it would be hard to not learn anything after graduating from Cornell and the University of Michigan Law School. 🤷
 
Contarini said:
But an entryway to what? From your posts, I am not convinced that Ms. Coulter provided you with an “entryway” to anything good or holy. In fact, your advocacy serves to discredit her further in my opinion, given the consistently immoral nature of the positions you argue on this forum.

Edwin
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Oh I see!!! An immoral position is the opposition to abortion and all those who deem it a rightful choice. Ann at least speaks her mind about this evil and somehow she and the posters in this forum are the immoral ones???

Let me list two immoralities: 1: An Episcopal Bishop not only living a sinful life with his partner, another male, and that is sanctioned? 2. The Lutheran Church, now giving consideration to allowing homosexual ministers to be pastors and even support their lifestyle by the acceptance of their ‘lovers’ as members of their family as if married.

And the talk is focused on the blunt and abrasive nature of Ann Coulter in the defense of the unborn. She is the abrasive one while others who fight to destroy life somehow are seen as good examples of kindness. NOT IN MY WORLD! But then I am Catholic and not an inheritor to the standard of King of England, Henry the VIII, who executed Thomas Moore for standing up to evil much the same as Ann is doing today.

Attack her manner and directness but please do not preach what is and what is not moral according to your dictum.

Give me a break and take your lecture to your own church for it does not present a moral argument to me.

Lynn-D
 
People who bomb abortion clinics are anti-abortion. Those people and Ann Coulter shared the same views.

Just because you are against abortion doesn’t mean I have to like you or think everything else you do is good and righteous. The way many of you are twisting it, it makes it sound like standing against Ann Coulter is somehow not giving 100% effort in the battle against abortion.

I don’t know why anyone has a problem understanding that logic. I’ll stand outside an abortion clinic and pray the rosary for the people inside. I will NOT make stupid quotes about bombing innocent lives like Ann Coulter did.

God bless her for being anti-abortion. But unfortunately, that is where her admirable qualities end.

Stop making it sound like anyone who is anti-Coulter has pro-abortion tendencies
 
Lynn-D said:
]And the talk is focused on the blunt and abrasive nature of Ann Coulter in the defense of the unborn.
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Wrong: The criticism of Ann Coulter’s speech has to do with this quote: “We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren’t punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That’s war. And this is war.”

Words like that are what make Ann Coulter a terrible spokesperson for the pro-life movement: those words are anything but supportive of life. Forcibly convert people to Christianity? HOW IS THAT remotely Christian? Show me where Christ would advocate forced conversions to Christianity.

It may be an attempt at humor, but it’s a poor attempt that shows how vile she can be.

And while you are at it, tell me how that is an effective way to defend unborn children.
 
In my opinion, most folks don’t acknowledge that we are, in fact, in a state of war. The enemy is not pulling their punches, but we are.

Ann Coulter is trying to make the point that if we are at war (which we are), then we should not be holding back and pulling our punches.

We are basically just sitting there and letting them do whatever they want to us … militarily, economically and politically … and also, religiously. There are different kinds of warfare; they are using all four of them and we aren’t doing very much of any thing. [except for a little bit in Iraq and Afghanistan.] But Iran and North Korea are working on getting a deliverable nuclear weapon and we are just shadow boxing.

Meanwhile we are allowing Sharia to gradually become dominant and are allowing Christianity to recede. We are allowing tolerance for everything except Christianity.

Ann Coulter is trying to tell us that we need to take appropriate action in all four areas … and she is being criticized for warning us that we need to take action … because we are at war … which some people a lot of people ] deny.
 
WinterWH said:
Ann Coulter is trying to tell us that we need to take appropriate action in all four areas … and she is being criticized for warning us that we need to take action … because we are at war … which some people a lot of people ] deny.
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You can do that without an obscene call for forced religious conversions, which is what Anne Coulter advocated with that quote. Or taking human life for granted, as she did when she said that timothy mcveigh should have visited the New York Times Building.

That’s why she’s criticized.
 
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