Anniversary Of An Invalid Wedding

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Just curious . If a Catholic was married outside the church for about 25 years then he and his wife decide to make there marriage valid by getting married in the church. Should they stop celebrating there original anniversary since they weren’t really married in the first place.
 
They were really married, their marriage was not recognized as sacramental. Also the Church has a Radical Sanate process which recognizes the original marriage date. I think the term (not sure) is the couple was in a Natural Marriage prior to obtaining a sacramental marriage state.
 
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They were really married, their marriage was not recognized as sacramental. Also the Church has a Radical Sanate process which recognizes the original marriage date. I think the term (not sure) is the couple was in a Natural Marriage prior to obtaining a sacramental marriage state.
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It’s called radical sanation… you were close! 😃 I had this done for my then invalid marriage and my anniversary is on the original day of my invalid marriage.

To the OP, ideally it would be the day of your marriage, but if you have a convalidation done for your marriage, then, for the CC, your true anniversary would be the day your convalidation took place, if you do a Radical Sanation, it’d be the day you originally got married. BUT, you cannot sanate your marriage thru this process if there is a way you can do a convalidation. A sanation is only for extreme occassions… here is what Catholic Answers explains: Radical Sanation
 
We had a ceremony in Church with just our parents and kids and the priest in attendance, a few years after our civil wedding. We celebrate the date and the number of years of the original civil wedding.
 
We had our convalidated 13 years into our marriage. I still count how long we’ve been married by our original date but we do celebrate both days now.
 
We were married three times!!

First, with a justice of the peace…this was primarily for insurance. However, since my Mom wanted us to live together first, we didn’t tell her about it. We let her Mom know indirectly (through siblings), so, as a filipina Catholic, she would feel a little better about the situation.

Second marriage was four months later with a Presbyterian minister (my faith) at a hotel (actually on a very large balcony of a suite, with only close friends and family). Only my brother caught on (“shouldn’t there be a license to sign?”), but we changed the subject.

Third marriage was after being married 15 years, and 11 years after my conversion. When I converted, my priest said we didn’t have to have our marriage blessed because it was valid. However, when my third child was baptized, a different priest rightly counselled us that we needed our marriage blessed because my DW didn’t get a dispensation to be married outside of the Church. Anyway, we chose a date close to our second marriage date (within a week).

So, we celebrate both our “legal” marriage date in May and our 2nd/3rd marriage date in September. 😃

So, that is my advice. Celebrate both anniverseries! Woohoo! 😛
 
shaka_maka said:
Just curious . If a Catholic was married outside the church for about 25 years then he and his wife decide to make there marriage valid by getting married in the church. Should they stop celebrating there original anniversary since they weren’t really married in the first place.
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That would depend on the reason the Church did not recognize the Marriage. In some instances the Marriage would have been valid if certain rules or form was followed. In otherwords nothing stood in the way of a valid Marriage. In other instances there was a serious impediment to a valid Marriage taking place even if all the “rules” were followed a valid Marriage still could not have taken place. When a Marriage is convalidated sometimes a new exchange of vows and consent is required, in other instances it is not. The specific circumstances would determine if you were married 25 years ago or a year ago.
 
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It’s called radical sanation… you were close! 😃 I had this done for my then invalid marriage and my anniversary is on the original day of my invalid marriage.

To the OP, ideally it would be the day of your marriage, but if you have a convalidation done for your marriage, then, for the CC, your true anniversary would be the day your convalidation took place, if you do a Radical Sanation, it’d be the day you originally got married. BUT, you cannot sanate your marriage thru this process if there is a way you can do a convalidation. A sanation is only for extreme occassions… here is what Catholic Answers explains: Radical Sanation
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Radical Sanation applies in certain circumstances it is not as you propose some means of last resort in extreme occasions.
 
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