Anniversary of the Miracle of the Sun

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From Our Lady of the Rosary Library:

October 13, 2007 marks the 90th Anniversary of the Miracle of the Sun. This occasion provides us with a special opportunity to refresh our memory regarding the circumstances and events connected with the fulfillment of the promise made by Our Lady of Fatima to the three peasant children. She promised that she would grant a great miracle on October 13, 1917, removing any doubt about their appointed role as trustworthy messengers of her apparitions and of her messages to the world.

The three peasant children, Jacinta, Francisco and Lucia were constantly badgered, challenged and accused of hallucinations or fraud, even threatened by various civil authorities. The ecclesiastical authorities - the parish priest and the bishop - were reserved and repeatedly pressed them with questions and cautioned them about the gravity of their claims. It was a painful sadness for them that their spiritual fathers withheld their judgment and support. But the children remained undaunted and tenaciously protested their humble obedience to the Blessed Virgin Mary and the truth of the revelations they related regarding apparitions and messages of Our Lady. Their confidence remained unshaken because of Our Lady’s promise of the special miracle on October 13th that she would perform to support them in the sight of all. They repeatedly told the doubters, cynics, and accusers that there would be a great miracle on October 13th at 12 noon. One that all would be able to see. Of course, word spread throughout the country about this prediction.

Fatima had been inundated by heavy rains for several days, and right up to October 13th. The ground at the Cova da Iria was a sea of mud. But at noon the rain became a fine mist. Thousands of people had gathered out of hope and expectation, out of anxious wonder, or curiosity, or to witness to the mindless naivete of the masses. It is estimated that 70,000 people had assembled. Many still holding their umbrellas. Suddenly, at 12 noon, Lucia was heard to cry out, “Look the sun!” Her cry was relayed through the great multitude. People looked up. There were great shouts and exclamations as the people beheld a stupendous phenomenon. The sun burst through the clouds. It immediately began to radiate a kaleidoscope of brilliant colors. It trembled. It began spinning. Then zigzagging. People were falling to their knees in the mud. Then a terrible cry went up, because the sun suddenly began to plummet to the earth. There were cries for mercy. There were people confessing their sins unabashedly, others were reciting an act of contrition. They feared that they would be crushed to death. Then, the sun stopped and slowly returned to its place in the sky. The whole experience lasted about 8 minutes. The air was clear. The ground was dry. Even the clothes of those who knelt in the mud were dry. As could be expected, this momentous event was reported in the prominent newspapers of Portugal and around the world. Even in the New York Times.

Simultaneously, there were other events which were visible to the seers alone. The children saw a series of special visions. First, St. Joseph with the Holy Child and Our Lady - the Holy Family. Then, St. Joseph robed in white, seeming to lean from the clouds, half hidden, holding the Holy Child who was wholly visible and dressed in red. Then, Our Lady on the right of the sun wearing a blue mantle which covered her head and fell loosely around her. St. Joseph tracing the sign of the cross three times over the vast kneeling crowd. Then this vision faded and vanished to give place to another of Jesus Christ, vested in red and His Mother under the symbolism of Our Lady of Dolours (without the sword piercing the heart). The Redeemer also gives His blessing to the people. As this vision faded, it was succeeded by still another seen by Lucia alone, a vision of Our Lady of Mount Carmel with something falling from her hand. These special visions seen only by the children ceased as the sun returned to its place in the sky.

Our Lady made the sun dance, a stupendous wake-up call, to persuade us of the truth and the urgency of her messages given through the seers. Her messages include the need for prayer for world peace, for the conversion of Russia, and in reparation for sin. She gives us a call to pray the Rosary every day. To faithfully to go to Confession, to Mass, to receive Holy Communion and to meditate on the mysteries of the Rosary, on five consecutive first Saturdays. What more can we ask for to convince us of the grave importance of the Messages of Our Lady of Fatima.
 
Has anyone heard of the theory that the appearance of the sun was due to volanic ash that had traveled from the point of eruption in Costa Rica?

When you look at the sun, there is no point of reference, exactly. The motion of one’s eyes and head could give the impression of the “dancing”. Further, the variable density of the clouds of ash could give the impression of the sun being brighter or dimmer.

But, the impressions of even a crowd of people at Fatima would need to be compared with allegations that the sun was actually moving about in its position, which is highly doubtful, as well as some sudden perturbation in the orbit of the earth, which would have generally produced devastion on an unprecedently widespread scale.

Miracle? Being reported in the New York Times would be the last piece of evidence that a ‘miracle’ occurred. There’s a lot of stuff printed in there every day.

The Church does not require belief under the pain of mortal sin, regarding private revelation. No one has to accept anything that was purportedly revealed at Fatima. Private revelation is only binding on those who receive it, in this case, apparently, the three children.

It is the sensationalism of the whole thing that turns me off. Mass delusion is not unprecedented. We are supposed to conclude that the unusual weather and atmospheric conditions was the “sign?” Or what? the dry clothing? Some people might have claimed to be cured of cancer. How would you know?
 
Has anyone heard of the theory that the appearance of the sun was due to volanic ash that had traveled from the point of eruption in Costa Rica?
No, never heard that one.

Also remember that it had been raining for days before the miracle too place. The people there were wet and muddy before the miracle happened. Immediately afterwards, their clothes were perfectly dry and clean. In addition, there were many miraculous cures that took place.
 
I just got back from a Public Square Rosary that was held on the front lawn of our church in honor of the 90th anniversary of the Marian Apparitions at Fatima. There was a good turnout and our Bishop, George Murry, led the Rosary. The front lawn faces an extremely busy highway, so a lot of people were exposed to the message. Apparently there were 1,000 Public Square Rosaries being held in all 50 states sponsored by American TFP today, according to their website. We also prayed the Divine Praises and did the Consecration to Jesus through Mary by St. Louis de Montfort.
 
Has anyone heard of the theory that the appearance of the sun was due to volanic ash that had traveled from the point of eruption in Costa Rica?
But, the impressions of even a crowd of people at Fatima would need to be compared with allegations that the sun was actually moving about in its position, which is highly doubtful
 
I just got back from a Public Square Rosary that was held on the front lawn of our church in honor of the 90th anniversary of the Marian Apparitions at Fatima. There was a good turnout and our Bishop, George Murry, led the Rosary. The front lawn faces an extremely busy highway, so a lot of people were exposed to the message. Apparently there were 1,000 Public Square Rosaries being held in all 50 states sponsored by American TFP today, according to their website. We also prayed the Divine Praises and did the Consecration to Jesus through Mary by St. Louis de Montfort.
I went to ours today also–was very nice! Attendance could have been better, but we had good weather & about 80 folks showed up (our parish is prob a few thousand folks I would imagine)
 
I just got back from a Public Square Rosary that was held on the front lawn of our church in honor of the 90th anniversary of the Marian Apparitions at Fatima. There was a good turnout and our Bishop, George Murry, led the Rosary. The front lawn faces an extremely busy highway, so a lot of people were exposed to the message. Apparently there were 1,000 Public Square Rosaries being held in all 50 states sponsored by American TFP today, according to their website. We also prayed the Divine Praises and did the Consecration to Jesus through Mary by St. Louis de Montfort.
We did the exact same thing in a public square as well. We had some local seminarians participating too which was nice 👍

While we prayed the Rosary we processed around the square with an OL of Fatima statue. 🙂
 
No, never heard that one.

Also remember that it had been raining for days before the miracle too place. The people there were wet and muddy before the miracle happened. Immediately afterwards, their clothes were perfectly dry and clean
Wait a minnit!

Are you stating that the 70,000 people had their clothes cleaned?
 
The same here:thumbsup:. We had a good turn out for the event with 2 priest and at least 3 nuns.

I believe America Needs Fatima,
tfp.org/anf/index.html did great in organsing this event. 👍
 
Did any scientific observatories “observe” the purported movements of the sun on October 13, 1917? Joe
 
I know that the America Needs Fatima campaign recently published a book about the miracle, written by John Haffert. It is called Meet the Witnesses and can be located at

tfp.org/Online%20Store/store.htm

I just read the book and it explains the miracle using the very words of the participants. There were intellectuals, doctors, psychologists, atheists and even soldiers from the national guard there. The stated intention of many of them was to prove the whole thing a farce. Anyway the book is well documented.
 
Miracle? Being reported in the New York Times would be the last piece of evidence that a ‘miracle’ occurred. There’s a lot of stuff printed in there every day.
Well, as I recall (no I wasn’t living then but I think I’ve seen copy of Times article), it was a relatively small item - not the headlines you’d see today. The question you should have asked was - "NY TIMES? Giving positive attention to anything religious?" To my knowledge, were we to give credence to the “volcanic ash” theory (first time I’ve heard that) - there’d have to be signs of bits of burnt ash on the ground…yes? no? From the recounts of the events, I don’t recall ever hearing someone not believing this event. Ignoring it - or forgetting it - seems to be easier for the masses. But the masses who were present in Fatima that day - did not come away in disbelief - or you would have heard tell of it.

Blessed are they who have not seen but believe.
 
I feel that whenever we start asking how a miracle could have occurred, especially when we try to explain away the experience of several thousand people at one time, people just like us, some gullible, some reasonable, some cynical, some stupid, some clever, but all attesting to what happened; and by searching around madly for reasons such as volcanic ash, or whatever to explain matters, we lose sight of the fact that a miracle is just that, a miracle.

Yes, maybe some miracles, I do not for a moment say all, can be explained as having taken place through natural means, as used by God the creator of all, natural and supernatural ( if in fact there is a distinction) but the fact that they took place in this fashion makes them no less miraculous. Why should volcanic ash, or whatever, make the sun appear to dance to thousands of faithful on that specific day? Did it do it any other day? Was that not in fact the exact day that the Blessed Virgin said a sign would happen? When people start talking about what the effects of the sun stopping in its tracks and dancing would have upon the earth, the solar system etc, they not only miss the point entirely by underestimating the power of God, overestimating immensely our knowledge of Physics, and clearly have no grasp of quantam physics, but also but ignore biblical examples.

The miracle appeared to people at a certain locality and was meant as a sign. Whether or not the sun itself, as it appeared elsewhere as a solar object, acted in this fashion is absolutely irrelevant, (one would have thought this self evident) but also there is no certainty at all, scientifically, as to what the outcome of such an occurrence might be, should it take place, as all calculations are based on our very basic knowledge of physics, which we cannot state pertains in circumstances which we have never encountered. Plus when one considers that God is the Creator of all things, it bounds on the heretical, or rather it is heretical to limit a miracle because we believe it is beyond our knowledge of physics or contradicts our incredibly limited knowledge of the workings of the solar system, a system God, who created it can change when he wishes.

I’ve heard a theory that when Moses led the children of Israel across the Red Sea, that it was not the Red Sea, but the Reed Sea (seemingly spelt Rede in old documents) and that this was a spelling mistake in one of the old translations. Some believe that what in fact may have happened was that a tidal wave, taking place hundreds of miles away, caused such a drawback of water, that for a substantial period of time, the bed of the REED sea was dry, and then later was swamped again with the returning water. Now if this is true, and some translator got the name of the Sea wrong, and if the miracle took place by way of a tidal wave, which is dated back to that time, the miracle is no less of a miracle, as if the Children of Israel were at that very point in history, being chased across that stretch of water by pharaoh, and due to God causing this tidal wave, they travelled across on dry land, and then the water came crashing down and the Egyptians were drowned, then what’s the problem? It’s a miracle!!!

We are Christians. Most of us on this forum are Catholics. We believe that The Virgin Mary was conceived without sin. We believe that John the Baptist was “sanctified from his mother’s womb”. We believe Christ did all sorts of miracles, including walking on water, changing water to wine, bringing the dead to life as in the cases of the widow of Nain’s son and Jairus’s daughter; that he made the lame walk, blind see, cast out demons, that he died and rose from the dead, that he ascended to the Father and that the Virgin Mary was assumed into Heaven. We believe that in the Old Testament, the prophet of God, held up his hands, as told to by God and that the sun stopped in the sky and the battle went on so that Israel would win without the enemy escaping by night. All this happened apparently without any great turbulence or disastrous effect (which apparently worried one poster who perhaps thought God wasn’t up to it, or that He is ruled by the laws of physics. Remember the apostles words when Christ calmed the storm. " What manner of man is this that even the wins and the seas obey him?") and yet we baulk at the Miracle of Fatima?

Whenever I consider these things, be it the Apostles and the blessed Gospel they preached and the testimony others in the church give up to the present day, as a lawyer, I always ask myself the question “cui bono” Who benefits?

The Apostles, almost to a man (save for, I think St John) were martyred for the faith. Why would they lie, when there was nothing to gain, except death by execution?

The same to a lesser extent goes for the young peasant children of Fatima. What did they stand to gain? Riches, big houses, limousines? No? Rather disbelief, from many, including their own Church. Did they sit down and work out a scam? Lets be honest. They stated as honestly and truthfully what they saw and heard. Why? They saw and heard it. Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings …………

God bless

Jimmy Two Guns
 
I also read the Pope was in his garden and saw the same thing at the same time
 
It all comes down to Faith. When one wants proof of supernatural things, it is obvious he/she does not have Faith.

Big problem.
 
It all comes down to Faith. When one wants proof of supernatural things, it is obvious he/she does not have Faith.

Big problem.
Well, I don’t know about that. I mean, I know what your saying but its not just like that. First of all, proof of supernatural “things” on this side of heaven is not going to happen. Thats why the church doesn’t say flat out that any Miracle, Fatima or otherwise is 100%. The most the church will say is that," it’s worthy of belief". I however, do have faith that if the church proclaims that an event is worthy to believe. That is when my faith kicks in full gear. I have faith in the Catholic Church and its teaching and yes that includes its miracle’s. Why, you may ask, because the Church takes its time and investigates sometimes for decades before making a well founded decision. 100%… nope but worthy to believe.
 
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