Annulment valid ceremony?

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Hi there,

Does anyone know if a catholic ceremony without the eucharist is a valid wedding ceremony? Would it be grounds for annulment if no eucharist? Also does a non baptised person need an annulment from the catholic church if he married a catholic? Thanks
 
there is no requirement that a Catholic wedding be during a Mass, or that communion be offered. In fact if one spouse or a lot of family are non-Catholic, it is discouraged because it highlights the sad disunity that exists with regard to communion.

the Catholic Church recognizes every marriage as valid until proven otherwise. If a divorce person of whatever religious affiliation or lack of it wishes to marry a Catholic they must submit the facts of the first marriage to the Tribunal for a judgement on annulment. This question has been asked many times, and if you search liturgy and sacraments on annulments you will find many great links with ample teaching on the topic.
 
janet224 said:
Hi there,

Does anyone know if a catholic ceremony without the eucharist is a valid wedding ceremony? Would it be grounds for annulment if no eucharist? Also does a non baptised person need an annulment from the catholic church if he married a catholic? Thanks
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There are three valid places where Marriage Rites take place. Within Mass at the foot of the altar, Outside of Mass at the foot of the altar, Outside of Mass, in the church building, but not at the foot of the altar (gathering space, paryer chapel, rectory/office).

Reception of the Eucharist is not required for a valid Marriage.

Yes, a non-Baptized person must enter into the Annulment process and receive a decree of nullity as a pre-requirement to considering Marriage to a Catholic.
 
that helps me as my husband has left me and I am contemplating an annulment. He was unbaptized at the time of our wedding yet he converted with me as his godsponsor.

In many ways an annulment saddens me as we have three chidlren and I feel that I have learned a lot more about being a good wife since he left me. I have come much closer to God and have realized all of our family problems were not his fault–that even if he had been perfect we still would have had daily problems.

the end of a marriage is the saddest experience I have ever faced.
 
whether or not your marriage is judged valid or not depends on the conditions that pertained at the time of the marriage, not what happened during the marriage.

please see your priest who no doubt will refer you to all the resources at your disposal in your diocese for reconciling and healing your marriage. If the worst case does happen and your husband divorces you, your priest will guide you on the annulment process.
 
there is a part of me that wonders if it is even right to pursue an annulment, especially if I do not want the divorce. Am I just pursuing it to marry again? Should I consider that once married I am married for life?
 
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there is a part of me that wonders if it is even right to pursue an annulment, especially if I do not want the divorce. Am I just pursuing it to marry again? Should I consider that once married I am married for life?
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you cannot initiate proceedings for an annulment investigation until all possibility of reconciliation has been exhausted, there is a civil divorce, and for some time after that. Again, go to your priest for guidance. Now is the time while there is still a chance to salvage the marriage.
 
After you have exhausted all avenues of reconciliation, then looking into annulment is good and proper. Whether or not you think you will remary now, the future may well have other plans in store for you. Also, your ex-husband may wish to remarry and will need an annulment. This has nothing to do with the children. Children of the marriage are always legitimate. There is a lot of info on annulments, your priest or deacon will have the best. Keep in mind that your marriage may not qualify for annulment but you won’t really know until the tribunal studies all the facts of the marriage. It takes at least a year to finalize an annulment so it is a good idea to try for one after all the dust has settled and you can think clearly. ( Sadly, I’ve been there, done that. Happily, I am married in the church to a wonderful man for over 14 years.)

Love and peace, Mom of 5
 
When do you know all avenues are exhausted? And, when you say my husband may remarry it makes me feel sad and somewhat angry. Uncharitable feelings arise and I think an annulment may remove guilt on his part.

And, how could a 51 year old every remarry?

And, if I had a role in removing a father from the home by not measuring up as a wife, how could I even hope for marriage when my children lost a whole family?
 
I was 49 when my marriage ended. 52 when I remarried. I had no plans of ever marrying again. God put the finest man ever in my life. Never say never. I think that setting a time limit is not nearly as important as actions. If your spouse will not cooperate in any way to save the marriage, is not interested at all in counseling etc., then you will probably not save your marriage. One person cannot do it alone. It takes two to want to be together. Patience is important, but sometimes it just is not enough. Have you counseled together, individually? First take care of the problems you feel that you contributed to the marriage, do your part. Guilt is natural. I had the “if only’s” for a long time. I tried to “fix” everything. When nothing worked, I gave it to God. I am so thankful that I did.

I was upset thinking that my husband might remarry until I realized that whether or not he did, we could not be married any longer. He never remarried.

Love and peace,
Mom of 5
 
Dearheart! 51 is the new 45!🙂 Please! You are a baby compared to those in their 70s.

There are little young ladies in their 80s who get married every day! You don’t know what God has in store for you. Give Him a chance.
 
I appreciate the words via a computer. It is indeed strange how an inanimate object can project warmth and needed companionship. My husband walked away August of 05 and never looked back. He refuses counseling and has moved far away. My biggest regret is that my children have lost a father and a stable home. My husband was going to adoration twice a week up until the night he left me. He suffered from severe depression which led him to close his business and he was at home 24/7 and I was not patient and kind as I should have been. We lost our home and moved to a new city sort of to hide I suppose. He was genuinely miserable and I was in shock. it has all the ingredients for disaster. My sin is one of trying to fix him when I should have supported him. My children saw my sin and I have tried to talk to them but they do not want to talk about it. I have come much closer to God through this journey. Thanks to the mother of 5 for sharing. I have three children, one to turn 20 tomorrow, one to turn 14 on Monday and one at 17.
 
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