Annulment Writer

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Has anyone here ever heard of an annulment writer? There’s a service offered where a professional writer, active and practicing in the Catholic faith, will sit down with you (or over the phone) and spend 2-3 hours talking with you, asking questions, helping you narrow down and direct your responses to match what the tribunal is looking for. He can proof the annulment statement for you or transcribe your annulment statement for you based on the interview. It sounds like it would be such a help because it is so overwhelming when I sit down to write my statement. My heart races, I get very anxious…it’s like I’m reliving my marriage all over again. And that’s very difficult. I wanted to check here to see if anyone had heard of this service or anything like that because I don’t want to get caught up in a scam either.
 
Talk to your advocate.

It is best to write your statements in your own words. The folks at St. Joseph Foundation can help you if you have a particularly complex case and need a canon law opinion.

stjosephcanonlaw.com/
 
Can’t say that I have heard of this, though I must say that I understand the difficulty in trying to compose a good statement. After I had managed to finish mine my advocate made a couple (very few) wording suggestions for the purpose of clarity.

It doesn’t surprise me that such a service might be offered. The Tribunals need to review so much testimony that it only makes sense that if someone can help us explain clearly, succinctly and truthfully, it is bound to make their job so much easier as well as ease the mind of the person applying.

Peace
James
 
You should ask his credentials. Is he an indult advocate or a submitting minister in his diocese? Usually some trained laity or clergy can help out this way. I offer a similar service, but I am a canon lawyer, and both conduct and supervise people who conduct these interviews.
 
I sense a serious potential for abuse and degradation here. A person in this position is going to be innately biased towards what his client wants. He’s then going to craft the statements and responses in the best light possible towards getting what he perceives that you want.

The Tribunal isn’t infallible. They can only decide based on the information given. If that information is slanted, spun and generally given the professional PR treatment to get the desired decision, you might as well just blow off the annullment altogether and go get married at Al’s Bar and Grill by a minister “ordained” over the internet. There’s no point anymore.

The point of the tribunal shouldn’t be to “get” a nullity declaration. It should be to discover the truth. If you don’t want the truth, then stop pretending to care, it isn’t doing you any good. You don’t need or want somebody getting in the way of that with PR spin. It’s OK to stutter or break down in front of your advocate or in tribunal testimony. Don’t be embarassed. They already know you’re suffered huge pain. Letting it show in honesty and sincerity is going to be the best way to get at the truth of what happened. That’s what you really want, isn’t it?

The tribunal isn’t really there to judge you. It’s there to help you objectively examine what happened without the innate bias that is always a part of interpersonal conflicts. Injecting MORE bias via polished and vetted statements would only hinder the goal (IMO).
 
I sense a serious potential for abuse and degradation here. A person in this position is going to be innately biased towards what his client wants. He’s then going to craft the statements and responses in the best light possible towards getting what he perceives that you want.
I had the same reaction. Ask questions that get you the answers you need to get what you want, in this case a decree of nullity.

Similar to the Government creating surveys that will get the responses they want to justify going ahead with projects that no one else wants.
 
Rereading things, I don’t want to come off as SURE that the guy will act in bad faith on your behalf. It just looks like things will inherently go in that direction. It’s almost surely not a scam. The question is whether it will help or hinder the real goal of the tribunal, which is finding the truth.

If you get the sense that he’s a hired gun willing to help you get the nullity declaration you want, then run.
 
I sense a serious potential for abuse and degradation here. A person in this position is going to be innately biased towards what his client wants. He’s then going to craft the statements and responses in the best light possible towards getting what he perceives that you want.

The Tribunal isn’t infallible. They can only decide based on the information given. If that information is slanted, spun and generally given the professional PR treatment to get the desired decision, you might as well just blow off the annullment altogether and go get married at Al’s Bar and Grill by a minister “ordained” over the internet. There’s no point anymore.

The point of the tribunal shouldn’t be to “get” a nullity declaration. It should be to discover the truth. If you don’t want the truth, then stop pretending to care, it isn’t doing you any good. You don’t need or want somebody getting in the way of that with PR spin. It’s OK to stutter or break down in front of your advocate or in tribunal testimony. Don’t be embarassed. They already know you’re suffered huge pain. Letting it show in honesty and sincerity is going to be the best way to get at the truth of what happened. That’s what you really want, isn’t it?

The tribunal isn’t really there to judge you. It’s there to help you objectively examine what happened without the innate bias that is always a part of interpersonal conflicts. Injecting MORE bias via polished and vetted statements would only hinder the goal (IMO).
Rereading things, I don’t want to come off as SURE that the guy will act in bad faith on your behalf. It just looks like things will inherently go in that direction. It’s almost surely not a scam. The question is whether it will help or hinder the real goal of the tribunal, which is finding the truth.

If you get the sense that he’s a hired gun willing to help you get the nullity declaration you want, then run.
MM,
There is ALWAYS potential for abuse - in any system. How many times have we seen people all but accuse the tribunal’s themselves of being little more than annulment mills. The point is that I don’t think we can avoid ALL abuse…🤷
That said, you do make a good point that the goal must always be the truth.

However - I would suggest that in this case there is just as much potential for exposing truth as there is for abusing it. Someone with experience can help people avoid making statements that give the wrong impression - an impression that would not fully convey the truth. More importantly - I think such a person can help keep the applicant on point, covering everything necessary while avoiding things in the statement that are immaterial. This helps both the applicant AND the tribunals.

One last comment on the question of “infallibility” of the Tribunals.
I would submit that they are, for all practical purposes - “inerrant”. I say this for the benefit of anyone reading this who might wonder…
Any person who goes through the process honestly and abides by the decision of the tribunal can move forward with confidence. A person who receives a decree of nullity may marry without concern. If - somewhere along the line some abuse - some error - was made, the sin (if any) does not transfer to any person acting in good conscience on the judgement of the Tribunal.

Just wanted to be clear on this - as I have seen people questioning that point here.

Peace
James
 
One last comment on the question of “infallibility” of the Tribunals.
I would submit that they are, for all practical purposes - “inerrant”. I say this for the benefit of anyone reading this who might wonder…
I’d agree if you make that word “authoritative.” People genuinely trusting in good faith that the tribunal made the right call need not lie awake at night worrying.

People who know they told lies, distortions, omissions or other such deceptions in order to get their declaration (achieve their goal) do NOT have any such assurance (in my opinion).
 
I’d agree if you make that word “authoritative.” People genuinely trusting in good faith that the tribunal made the right call need not lie awake at night worrying.
Good word…
Authoritative it is. 👍
People who know they told lies, distortions, omissions or other such deceptions in order to get their declaration (achieve their goal) do NOT have any such assurance (in my opinion).
Indeed…Their sins will find them out.

Peace
James
 
Okay, folks. I think it is really unfair to immediately jump to the conclusion that this “annulment writer” whoever he is, is trying to do a bad spin for someone like the OP or that annulments are “granted” willy nilly.

What this “annulment writer” is trying to do is really take on part of the traditional role of the canon lawyer advocate. As a matter of fact, if you get divorced in a place like Italy, you need to go through the annulment process as well, which means that your attorney is probably also a canon lawyer. That little “application form” is really not an “application” so much as it filing a lawsuit against the bond of marriage. The forms are very similar throughout the different dioceses; they are trying to arrive at the same basic information about the identity of the parties, their backgrounds, and their personal histories including their childhoods, time of courtship(s), what went on in the marriage(s), and what led to the divorce(s). Also, for those who may not realize it, most of these forms have an oath of truthfulness that the petitioner must sign. These are court papers. Not only that, but they are just the preliminary paperwork. The party(s) will be called in to do a more extensive interview, the witnesses will be interviewed by the Tribunal, etc.

I suggested that the OP ask this person’s credentials because as a Judge and as an Advocate, I know exactly what the Tribunals are looking for when reviewing the “application form” to decide whether to admit the case to the docket or not. Before I was a canon lawyer I helped out at my Tribunal as a trained volunteer. I was made an official “submitting minister” to help people write their petitions out and sort through what they needed to initially present the Tribunal. Maybe this person the OP is referring to has this kind of experience.

Let me give you an example of the kind of thing an “annulment writer” will need to know. If the petitioner has a 2" stack of printouts of proof of some nefarious internet activities or activities to pertaining to a particular action, a wise person will select a few samples and note that should the Court want more, they have X number of pages more available. Why? Because the Tribunal usually has better things to do than to read through dozens of emails about infidelity. Another example is when you’re supposed to explain your childhood environment. The Tribunal is not looking for long winded narrations of how well or poorly you did in school and in your social life. You can say you were an average student or a star student. You can indicate you were heavily involved or maybe only partially involved in extracurricular activities and mention a few of them. They don’t want your transcripts unless they are really bad and you’re trying to prove a low IQ (in which case, your guardian would be writing up the application).

A theology background does not necessarily give a person the practical knowledge of the grounds that should be brought forth in the petition. Sometimes- not often- I have been referred to help with appealing negative decisions as an advocate because the petitioner and their pastor were convinced that they had a “slam dunk case of X” and didn’t realize that they didn’t have the right information in the case (that they possessed but didn’t bring forth because their case was so air tight in their minds). Experience, then, can be very helpful, both in initially presenting the case to the Tribunal, and in making sure that the proper evidence is submitted.

God has given the power of the keys to the Church and this is one area in which She wields this power. It may also interest the annulment mills conspiracy theorists to know that we in the annulment process take it very seriously. It is a matter of our salvation, too, you know.
 
Nobody is suggesting a conspiracy. I just work with a lot of lawyers (the secular kind). I find that on the whole, they aren’t remotely interested in truth and justice. They are interested in getting the outcome desired by their client (which is how they get paid).

I don’t know the person advertising this service, but I thought I caught a whiff of a similar sentiment. I could be totally off and would be glad to be. But the OP deserves to think about the possibility.
 
Nobody is suggesting a conspiracy. I just work with a lot of lawyers (the secular kind). I find that on the whole, they aren’t remotely interested in truth and justice. They are interested in getting the outcome desired by their client (which is how they get paid).

I don’t know the person advertising this service, but I thought I caught a whiff of a similar sentiment. I could be totally off and would be glad to be. But the OP deserves to think about the possibility.
Alrighty. You’re right that civil attorneys are extremely interested in winning the case and not very much in truth and justice. That is one reason why we heavily discourage civil attorneys from becoming canon lawyers. They bring the wrong mindset to things. They have to re-learn and that can be difficult. How we interpret law and they do are different. Our obligation is to the truth and not to winning the case under false pretenses or by “stretching” the truth. Of course, a mere Catholic “writer” has no such oath or professional obligation by profession, just by baptism. I warned the OP to ask for credentials. A “writer” cannot fight for her and guide her with legal advice once she has turned in the paperwork. A canon lawyer can. A canon lawyer can be assigned as her advocate once she turns in her paperwork by the Court. She should ask for one. But, first, she needs to turn in her paperwork! As long as she does it truthfully, she should be good to go. If this individual writer does not have the background he claims, the worst that can happen is that the petition is rejected and she can submit another one. Once the paperwork is in, a judge will look at the paperwork, and may even change the grounds if other grounds look more compelling based on her story.
 
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