Annulment?

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If a person has been baptized Catholic and marries a non-believer in a civil ceremony and they get divorced, if the non-believer begins to convert to being Catholic but is now married to someone else. If the first marriage valid and needs annulment?
 
Have you called your parish office and spoken with someone there?

Annulments need to be dealt with case-by-case by those who know the ropes. You’re bound to get widely differing and confusing opinions about the possibilites of your annulment on an open forum.

Please, be careful with what you hear in this thread. Call your parish or diocesan offices.
 
If a person has been baptized Catholic and marries a non-believer in a civil ceremony and they get divorced, if the non-believer begins to convert to being Catholic but is now married to someone else. If the first marriage valid and needs annulment?
There are 2 possibilities here that would not involve a full blown case for nullity.

If the former spouse of the baptized Catholic was not baptized there could be a case for disparity of cult.

If the spouse was baptized there could be a case for lack of form if a dispensation was not obtained.

In any case one would have to contact their canonical parish and speak with a priest to find out how one should proceed.
 
It might be a simpler matter of lack of form, but regardless, it needs to all be worked out with a priest. Bring it to the priest’s attention and he’ll now what to do.
 
If a person has been baptized Catholic and marries a non-believer in a civil ceremony and they get divorced, if the non-believer begins to convert to being Catholic but is now married to someone else. If the first marriage valid and needs annulment?
The persons in question need to make an appointment and sit down with the priest. They needto lay out all the facts and let the priest guide them.

Whether or not the first marriage is valid depends upon many factors including whether or not the couple followed Church law regarding marriage. For the Catholic this would mean either marrying in the Catholic form (before a priest and two witnesses) OR receiving a dispensation from form to marry the non-Catholic in a civil ceremony.

Without many more facts and details it is not possible to give a complete answer.

Bottom line: Go see your priest and give him ALL the facts.
 
There are 2 possibilities here that would not involve a full blown case for nullity.

If the former spouse of the baptized Catholic was not baptized there could be a case for disparity of cult.

If the spouse was baptized there could be a case for lack of form if a dispensation was not obtained.

In any case one would have to contact their canonical parish and speak with a priest to find out how one should proceed.
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Outside of these two instances, however, there might be some difficulty. The big question, I think, is whether or not there was a dispensation for lack of form granted… that would be the clearest indicator…
 
Need to see the priest but from the sounds of the information it sounds like it is a lack of form based on the fact that it was outside Church without dispensation. However, there could be information missing so this person would need to see their priest.
 
*I was born and raised catholic , attended catholic schools and have practiced the faith my entire life. I am divorced but my marriage was annulled. I have finally found the love of my life and he has filed the paper work with our diocese. My dilemma is he is non catholic and his former spouse is also non catholic. He lives with me because his father recently committed suicide and it was too painful for him to stay at his empty home. He has two children. I am consumed with fear that his annulment will not be granted. His former wife cheated on him during the marriage. He made many attempts to reconcile but she did not want to. My fears are that I the annulment is not granted how will I be able to go on? I will not leave the church or quit practicing my faith but I cannot live in sin. Can you please offer some advice or help? Those who are non catholic like my fiance and his former wife do not understand the grave importance of this situation. I’m afraid his ex will try to stop this from happening out of maliciousness. Can that even happen?
 
*I was born and raised catholic , attended catholic schools and have practiced the faith my entire life. I am divorced but my marriage was annulled. I have finally found the love of my life and he has filed the paper work with our diocese. My dilemma is he is non catholic and his former spouse is also non catholic. He lives with me because his father recently committed suicide and it was too painful for him to stay at his empty home. He has two children. I am consumed with fear that his annulment will not be granted. His former wife cheated on him during the marriage. He made many attempts to reconcile but she did not want to. My fears are that I the annulment is not granted how will I be able to go on? I will not leave the church or quit practicing my faith but I cannot live in sin. Can you please offer some advice or help? Those who are non catholic like my fiance and his former wife do not understand the grave importance of this situation. I’m afraid his ex will try to stop this from happening out of maliciousness. Can that even happen?
The ex could make it difficult but tribunals usually have a good meter for these types of things. The major thing is to know if the marriage was valid at the time of the marriage. The adultery is not grounds in and of itself. It may be indicative of grounds but it is not of itself grounds.
 
I guess my question is how do u know if the marriage was invalid from he start. I mean no one enters into Marriage knowing its not valid from the start. Does his make sense? Also if both are non catholic I would think it would easier to count as “not valid”
 
I guess my question is how do u know if the marriage was invalid from he start. I mean no one enters into Marriage knowing its not valid from the start. Does his make sense? Also if both are non catholic I would think it would easier to count as “not valid”
Basically the best thing to do is to talk to your priest but the only way to know for sure is to go through the process and have the marriage examined after the divorce. Marriages (minus those that are not covered by lack of form) are presumed valid unless examined and found to be invalid. Usually a Tribunal will present a questionnaire type of thing that will help someone prepare their testimony and this will help in the collection of facts for the testimony so that the tribunal can make this determination. But it usually can have something to do with a defect on consent or other type of impediment.

Here is the Code of Canon Law on Marriage which should give you a good place to start.

Regardless at this point I would say start with your priest as he will be the best to guide you both in this situation. You would also be welcome in our group where we support each other through this process.
 
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