Annulments and Messy Situations

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I have some questions about annulments, and I know the best source for information is a local Priest; but we’re not quite to that point yet, so here’s the situation.

My wife and her 3 siblings were raised Catholic – Catholic mom (herself a convert at age 19), protestant dad who never really attended church much after reaching adulthood. They were good, hard-working people of modest means. No Catholic school, as they lived in a small rural community and had to commute several miles to the nearest mission church. But mom took them, every Sunday and Holy Day, and to religious education class with Father after Mass.

Sadly, all 4 kids drifted away from the Church. My wife (the oldest) left to marry me, but I later converted and we were re-married to each other in the Church, thanks be to God. Of the 2 boys, one reconnected with the Church before his death, and the other would probably do the same but for the objections of his protestant wife.

That leaves the baby, my wife’s only sister, in her mid 50’s now and longing to “come back.” She’s had a rough time of it: her mom died just as she was finishing high school, and her dad remarried and moved away from the area – the only area “Babe” had ever known, leaving her feeling quite abandoned. Lots of emotional turmoil. Long story short: she quit going to Mass, married and divorced twice in fairly rapid succession – to local boys, both of whom were prone to physical violence toward her. Don’t know for sure, but it’s highly doubtful that either of these guys were ever baptized. And it’s a safe bet that there won’t be any cooperation whatsoever from either one of them with regard to investigating the validity of the marriages – or anything else. A couple of Babe’s gal pals could give you an earful, though.

Finally, a few years later she married a 3rd time, and this time it’s a good marriage. It’s lasted several years now, and they’re happy together. Her husband, also a non-attending protestant, was himself married and divorced once when he was younger. He’s a nice guy and would be willing to re-marry her in the Church if she wishes.

She DOES so wish, but is fearful and reluctant to begin the process, mostly because it seems so insurmountable.

Any thoughts would be much appreciated, and thanks in advance.
 
Based on the evidence you give, which as far as I can understand it is a baptized Catholic woman who had three successive marriages outside of the Church without permission, those would all be invalid for lack of form, resolved by an insignificant amount of paperwork, and all that would remain would be a convalidation of her current invalid marriage.
 
Long story short: she quit going to Mass, married and divorced twice in fairly rapid succession
It seems self-evident these were not in the Catholic Church. (correct us if that is an inaccurate assumption). These would be invalid attempts at marriage, and a short paperwork process to receive freedom to marry declaration.
Finally, a few years later she married a 3rd time, and this time it’s a good marriage.
Since this marriage is also outside the Church it is currently invalid. It would take convalidation to make it valid (or radical sanation).

However…
Her husband, also a non-attending protestant, was himself married and divorced once when he was younger.
He has an impediment to valid marriage, namely his first marriage. This would have to be investigated and a finding reached regarding his freedom to marry. Without more facts, it’s difficult to know which route his prior marriage might take towards a resolution.

It could be a full tribunal nullity case. It could be a lack of form if his first attempt at marriage was also to a Catholic outside the Church (if he can prove it), if he’s unbaptized or they both were unbaptized it could be a dissolution of the bond in favor of the faith, if his first wife was married before it could be Ligamen.

It’s BEST if they go talk to the local Catholic priest together and lay out ALL the facts of ALL their prior attempts at marriage and take it ONE step at a time.
 
Based on the evidence you give, which as far as I can understand it is a baptized Catholic woman who had three successive marriages outside of the Church without permission, those would all be invalid for lack of form, resolved by an insignificant amount of paperwork, and all that would remain would be a convalidation of her current invalid marriage.
That’s how I’m reading it too. If she was baptized Catholic and never received dispensation to marry outside of the Church then it’s a two page form in my diocese with copies of a recently issued baptismal certificate, marriage certificate, and divorce decree. There really isn’t an investigation since the baptismal certificate would not include notations of any of her previous civil marriages. It really a matter of validating and cross checking data.
 
The Holy Spirit is calling your sister-in-law back to the Church. Sooner or later she will have to speak a priest; he will be in the best position to advise her on her previous and current marriages. If an annulment is necessary, then he will help her through it. Lack of cooperation from former spouses is not considered in granting an annulment. Have her call and make an appointment with a priest, it could be as easy as confession and having her current marriage blessed.
 
However…

He has an impediment to valid marriage, namely his first marriage. This would have to be investigated and a finding reached regarding his freedom to marry. Without more facts, it’s difficult to know which route his prior marriage might take towards a resolution.

It could be a full tribunal nullity case. It could be a lack of form if his first attempt at marriage was also to a Catholic outside the Church (if he can prove it), if he’s unbaptized or they both were unbaptized it could be a dissolution of the bond in favor of the faith, if his first wife was married before it could be Ligamen.

It’s BEST if they go talk to the local Catholic priest together and lay out ALL the facts of ALL their prior attempts at marriage and take it ONE step at a time.
Good catch, 1ke. I had missed he had a previous marriage to be dealt with also. Her’s should be straightforward, but his may not be so simple.
 
Based on the evidence you give, which as far as I can understand it is a baptized Catholic woman who had three successive marriages outside of the Church without permission, those would all be invalid for lack of form, resolved by an insignificant amount of paperwork, and all that would remain would be a convalidation of her current invalid marriage.
The complication – if there is one – isn’t her prior marriages; it’s her current husband’s prior marriage.

She really needs to go and talk with a good priest. He should ask her about details of her current husband’s previous marriage history. Was he married only once prior to marrying her? Was his first wife married before she married him? It’s necessary to understand the whole history – that is, the entire roster of ex’s and their ex’s. For each of these, it’s necessary to understand their connection to the Church, with respect to the timeline of the marriage(s): were they unbaptized? Baptized in the Catholic Church? Baptized in another Christian community?

What folks tend to misunderstand about nullity proceedings is that they presume that their particular experience is representative of the proceedings in general; that tends to lead to bad advice.

There are a few more questions that are relevant. It’d be difficult to work through them on an internet forum. Your sister-in-law should talk to a priest, if she wants good advice.
 
However…
LOL!

1ke beat me to the punch by 10 minutes, while I was typing up my post… 😉

MARrshh3,
Long story short… ‘Babe’ should talk to a priest, who can help her understand how she might proceed.
 
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