Anointing of the healthy?

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It obviously wasn’t confirmation that she recieved.

I do have mixed feelings about these communal services. I mean probably 200 people went up for anointing…
 
Until reading this thread, I had no idea that infants & young children were not to receive the anointing of the sick. Why is this?
Simply put, because part of the Sacrament is for the forgiveness of sins, one who is not yet old enough to commit a sin is not in need of such forgiveness.

This is not to say that they absolutely cannot receive Anointing (if there’s doubt, it should be done), but rather that they don’t specifically need it.
 
From the NCE:

Grave or serious bodily illness is required for the valid reception of extreme unction. This implied in the text of St. James and in Catholic tradition (see above, III), and is formally stated in the decree of Eugene IV for the Armenians: “This sacrament is not to be given except to the sick person, of whose death fears are entertained” (Denzinger, no. 700–old no. 595), and in the teaching of the Council of Trent that “this unction is to be administered to the sick, but especially to those who seem to be at the point of death [in exitu vitæ]” (Sess. XIV, cap. iii, De Extr. Unct.). It is clear from these words of Trent that extreme unction is not for the dying alone, but for all the faithful who are seriously ill with any sickness as involves danger of death (discrimen vitæ, ibid.), i.e. as may probably terminate fatally. How grave must be the illness or how proximate the danger of death is not determined by the council, but is left to be decided by the speculations of theologians and the practical judgment of priests directly charged with the duty of administering the sacrament. And there have been, and perhaps still are, differences of opinion and of practice in this matter.”

It’s a surprisingly loooooong article. But it seems clear that one must be reasonably thought to be able to die from the physical condition itself, rather than some other intervening action. A mental disturbance that is rooted in the body somehow and is strong enough to tear away one’s grip on reason and thrust him into grave danger is also a qualifying illness. But someone “going under” for some cosmetic surgery can’t be anointed beforehand… Nor could someone awaiting execution be anointed beforehand, but could possibly during, if the circumstances allow it (like a firing squad). The condition itself must suffice for the danger.

“Nor will danger, or even certainty, of death from any other cause than sickness qualify a person for extreme unction. Hence criminals or martyrs about to suffer death and other similarly circumstances may not be validly anointed unless they should happen to be seriously ill. But illness caused by violence, as by a dangerous or fatal wound, is sufficient; and old age itself without any specific disease is held by all Western theologians to qualify for extreme unction, i.e. when senile decay has advanced so far that death already seems probable.”

newadvent.org/cathen/05716a.htm

What is abundantly clear is that it is a terrible abuse to invite people at mass - with no serious catechesis on the topic - to approach the sacrament then and there. Exposing a sacrament to invalidity is a heavy matter…
 
Simply put, because part of the Sacrament is for the forgiveness of sins, one who is not yet old enough to commit a sin is not in need of such forgiveness.

This is not to say that they absolutely cannot receive Anointing (if there’s doubt, it should be done),** but rather that they don’t specifically need it.**
But is the sacrament not for the healing of soul and body?
 
It obviously wasn’t confirmation that she recieved.

I do have mixed feelings about these communal services. I mean probably 200 people went up for anointing…
Quite some time ago, I ahd the same reaction.

Fast forward a few years, and I twice had the privilege of being whacked by an anesthesiologist for cancer surgery. It dawned on me that anyone who had seen me at the time would have thought I was as healthy as a horse, and likely would have thought I was “sacrament cruising”.

Since then, I have changed my attitude. I now consider the matter to be between the individuals going up and Christ - and the Trinity, especially the Holy Spirit.

And IMHO, they are eminently capable of dealing with the individual without my intervention or questioning.

Could some priests be a bit more articulate about the sacrament?

Yep.

Is that my issue?

Nope.

I simply lift all who are going forward up in prayer.

And having reached the age of 70 and so having outlived my father, who had a massive stroke at the age of about 56, and a goodly number of classmates, some of whom died of strokes and others of massive heart attacks, age itself can be the point of “being in danger”. While people may have some short warning of either of those killers, al too many are not aware of them - and die.

Again, could some priests be more articulate? Yep. In fact, in doing so, perhaps more people, who should be anointed, might come forward. And mayne some who really are not in that category might not.

But that is God’s problem, not mine. I have enough to take care of now without worrying that someone might be “sacrament cruising”.
 
I do have mixed feelings about these communal services. I mean probably 200 people went up for anointing…
I think that is absolutely wonderful.

Over the years, I have anointed at many Masses for the Sick and the Aged…particularly in connection with World Day of the Sick every February 11th.

In my parishes, in addition to an observance of World Day of the Sick, I always made a point of having a service focused on those who qualified for the sacrament due to age, typically in the autumn, so that those in their sunset years could be fortified by this sacrament.
 
While offering the sacrament of the sick as an adjunct to a regular Sunday mass might not be advisable, I have seen instances in which this occurred during a retreat for adults in a small chapel, with the anointing following the Mass. It was not, I think, inappropriate, since many of the attendees were elderly, and it was clear from some of the prayer intentions that many others had serious illnesses. The priest explained the conditions for the sacrament, and perhaps half came forward for the sacrament, which in this instance, seemed about right.
 
Over the years, I have anointed at many Masses for the Sick and the Aged…particularly in connection with World Day of the Sick every February 11th.
I’ve never heard of that, nor had my husband - I just told him about it & we’re putting it on the calendar. He said he’ll go if he’s around. He’s 81, so I guess that’s old enough to be considered Aged. 🙂
 
I’ve never heard of that, nor had my husband - I just told him about it & we’re putting it on the calendar. He said he’ll go if he’s around. He’s 81, so I guess that’s old enough to be considered Aged. 🙂
Most assuredly!

I have no idea what is done in your part of the world for World Day for the Sick. I would hope great moment would be made of it…led by your diocesan bishop.

Here is a link to what was done by the Archbishop of Seattle this past February. If you are not in this diocese, he would at least be your Metropolitan.

seattlearchdiocese.org/Assets/PastoralCare/7090_WorldDayoftheSick.pdf
 
I think that is absolutely wonderful.

Over the years, I have anointed at many Masses for the Sick and the Aged…particularly in connection with World Day of the Sick every February 11th.

In my parishes, in addition to an observance of World Day of the Sick, I always made a point of having a service focused on those who qualified for the sacrament due to age, typically in the autumn, so that those in their sunset years could be fortified by this sacrament.
We might have different perspectives on this issue on this side of the Atlantic.

In the U.S. abuses are rather commonplace.

For instance, it often happens that priests offer to anoint anyone and everyone, and yes I mean literally every single person who happens to be present at the time.

I know this to be true. A few parishes ago, I put a stop to the practice of my predecessor. He had a designated day of the week for a so-called “healing Mass.” Every week (except Holy Week and other obvious days) on a given day he would anoint every single person who walked into the Church after the daily Mass. Some simple math proves how this is an abuse because some of those parishioners (most of them perfectly healthy) who attended regularly had been anointed hundreds of times, since he had been doing this for more than 5 years.

I still distinctly remember one parishioner who demanded (yes demanded) that I anoint him for a bee-sting (no, he was not allergic, and it was nowhere near life-threatening). His primary argument was that “Father so-and-so did it all the time, so you should too.”

Now, statistically speaking, such things are rare, but that’s only true because there are so many priests. It’s safe to say that in the U.S. a person who is in perfect health would have no problem at all locating a priest who will anoint anyone for any reason, or even no reason at all. One need only do a search for a term like “healing Mass” or “healing service” in a certain geographic area to find such an opportunity.

We do have a problem over here. I note that you have always mentioned “those who are qualified” or similar words. The problem is that there are quite a few priests here who exercise no discernment whatever before anointing.
 
Read what I wrote.
I did. I’m not sure how what you already wrote answered my question.

Here, I’ll quote it again.
Simply put, because part of the Sacrament is for the forgiveness of sins, one who is not yet old enough to commit a sin is not in need of such forgiveness.

This is not to say that they absolutely cannot receive Anointing (if there’s doubt, it should be done), but rather that they don’t specifically need it.
You are saying, if I understand you correctly, that a child is not in need of forgiveness (healing of soul), that the child has no specific need for the sacrament. But if a child is sick, he or she has need of healing of body. Can that child not benefit from this aspect of the sacrament and therefore have need of it?
 
We might have different perspectives on this issue on this side of the Atlantic.

In the U.S. abuses are rather commonplace.

For instance, it often happens that priests offer to anoint anyone and everyone, and yes I mean literally every single person who happens to be present at the time.

I know this to be true. A few parishes ago, I put a stop to the practice of my predecessor. He had a designated day of the week for a so-called “healing Mass.” Every week (except Holy Week and other obvious days) on a given day he would anoint every single person who walked into the Church after the daily Mass. Some simple math proves how this is an abuse because some of those parishioners (most of them perfectly healthy) who attended regularly had been anointed hundreds of times, since he had been doing this for more than 5 years.

I still distinctly remember one parishioner who demanded (yes demanded) that I anoint him for a bee-sting (no, he was not allergic, and it was nowhere near life-threatening). His primary argument was that “Father so-and-so did it all the time, so you should too.”

Now, statistically speaking, such things are rare, but that’s only true because there are so many priests. It’s safe to say that in the U.S. a person who is in perfect health would have no problem at all locating a priest who will anoint anyone for any reason, or even no reason at all. One need only do a search for a term like “healing Mass” or “healing service” in a certain geographic area to find such an opportunity.

We do have a problem over here. I note that you have always mentioned “those who are qualified” or similar words. The problem is that there are quite a few priests here who exercise no discernment whatever before anointing.
What you relate is most unfortunate, Father, if there are places in your country that suffer on account of priests who would lack guidance from their bishop and his periti who, it goes without saying, should be helping the members of the presbyterate to apply correctly the guidelines. They are precise enough – presuming the priest had the benefit of competent formation across the many years we spend in seminary, wherever we are in the world, as well as the on-going continuing education that is surely offered to the presbyterates of your country as they are everywhere else in the developed world.

Perhaps you should encourage your diocesan bishop to appoint a priest who has done advanced studies in both sacramental theology and in pastoral theology as an episcopal vicar for health care in order to mentor, in the bishop’s name and with his delegated authority, those priests who may need additional guidance or other remedial assistance. Fortunately, in my diocese, that was not one of the tasks of this episcopal vicar, I can confidently tell you.

I did participate in healing services during sojourns in the United States. They did not involve the sacrament of the sick but rather were born out of the charismatic renewal. Personally, I am not charismatic but, of course, as priests we minister to them according to their legitimate spirituality and devotional expression…not according to our preference or that school of spirituality to which we adhere.

I was very fascinated by this phenomenon because of the people I encountered and how they lived this aspect of their faith life. It was quite remarkable. People would remain much longer for these extra-liturgical events – and most gladly – which far exceeded the duration of a weekday Mass.

I have vivid memories of them as I was quite struck by both the numbers of people and the length to which the healing services would go. I had people coming into the church across hours to be prayed over individually and seeking healing from all manner of afflictions that were well outside the scope of the Sacrament of the Sick. It was nothing short of unforgettable and second in my “file of the remarkable” to that which I encountered in Africa concerning liturgical engagement. It was there above everywhere else I ever was that I truly saw realised “full, conscious, and active participation” in the liturgy.

I hope what I saw and participated in continues to expand in your country. These clearly fulfilled an urgent need and were an expression, I think, of Americans rather unique forms of religiosity. This should be expanded and further developed by your pastoral theologians, many of whom are quite excellent in the field and in what they are producing in the journals.

One could clearly see the work of the Holy Spirit in these new manifestations of the Church’s prayer and devotional life in the post-conciliar era. It was a joy to witness.

I found there was also very heavy involvement of the deacons as well as the laity in the organisation and animation of these extra-liturgical events as they took their proper place in animating non-liturgical worship in their faith community.
 
How grave must be the illness or how proximate the danger of death is not determined by the council, but is left to be decided by the speculations of theologians and the practical judgment of priests directly charged with the duty of administering the sacrament.
This is the key point in your quote.
But it seems clear that one must be reasonably thought to be able to die from the physical condition itself, rather than some other intervening action. A mental disturbance that is rooted in the body somehow and is strong enough to tear away one’s grip on reason and thrust him into grave danger is also a qualifying illness. But someone “going under” for some cosmetic surgery can’t be anointed beforehand.
What is clear is that if the person is determined by the minister of the sacrament to be “in danger” because of illness, age, or a health related condition as well as from a medical intervention, the minister of the sacrament is to make a pastoral assessment concerning the administration of the sacrament.

The other qualifications I find of no value to how I made my pastoral evaluation. Or anyone I have worked with, for that matter.

You may be sure that any patient who was having a procedure involving anesthesia when I was a hospital chaplain would have been deemed eligible for this sacrament. Period. And I return to the key point of your first quote.
“Nor will danger, or even certainty, of death from any other cause than sickness qualify a person for extreme unction. Hence criminals or martyrs about to suffer death and other similarly circumstances may not be validly anointed unless they should happen to be seriously ill. But illness caused by violence, as by a dangerous or fatal wound, is sufficient; and old age itself without any specific disease is held by all Western theologians to qualify for extreme unction, i.e. when senile decay has advanced so far that death already seems probable.”
Of course one does not anoint someone who is being executed. Nor does one anoint soldiers going into battle. That is beyond elementary to the theology of this sacrament.

This article cited, however, is from an encyclopedia written in the first decade of the 20th century. It is an interesting article but I would not encourage my students to read except in passing for historical context. The criteria are hopelessly outdated.

In the more than 100 years since that encyclopedia was published, much has evolved with regard to the theology of this sacrament, the field of pastoral theology in general, as well as the information to be derived from medical advances which inform and assist both the theologian and the pastoral practitioner in the provision of pastoral care to the sick and to the dying

Beyond that the opinions and concepts of lay people who lack extensive theological and/or canonical studies and who also lack the cura animarum and who moreover lack the on-going formation derived from their bishop’s orientations to pastoral care workers, the reflections of the presbyterate to which they belong, and who moreover lack being part of professional and theological associations dealing with and shaping concepts and guidelines in pastoral care, above all to the sick and dying, really carry very little weight with me at all, above all when it is a call for a mindset of greater restrictiveness.

To be clear:


  1. *]I was always willing to receive a petition from someone for this sacrament who felt they should receive it and I would assess the propriety and, if the answer was not positive, I would return to the petition in order to re-examine it, if requested.

    *]For a lay person to petition that my approach, either specific or general, should be more restrictive would not be received cordially.

    *]If my bishop determined the need for greater restriction, that would be different. In fact, he established guidelines even more expansive than I had proposed concerning certain points. Of course, I yielded to his disposition of the matter and directed other priests to instantly comply.

    *]There is plenty of literature in the field which actually is substantive, useful, and helpful and which one who is a pastoral caregiver to the sick and dying may draw upon for the legitimate development of cogent and competent thought in this area…together with the research of our priestly confreres and the (name removed by moderator)ut of theological colleagues in the academy. Which brings us yet again to the key point of the first quote.

    *]And, at the end of the day, what is dispositive in the determination about anointing is and remains Canon 1005.

    *]Finally, the determination of what is appropriate and a critique thereof concerning a priest’s administration of the sacrament of the sick rests in the forum of the bishop and his curia since, in every way, the competence is theirs…not that of lay observers.
 
I twice had the privilege of being whacked by an anesthesiologist for cancer surgery. It dawned on me that anyone who had seen me at the time would have thought I was as healthy as a horse, and likely would have thought I was “sacrament cruising”…
I would just like to underscore all you have written in light of certain posts I’m reading in this thread. You speak very well

I remember when I was a young & newly ordained priest. I confronted what were some quizzical moments in those first public anointings
  • A young girl, quite lovely with the bearing of a dancer. She seemed unremarkable…except she already had undergone multiple heart surgeries for a defect being corrected in stages; she came to be anointed in church with her family present with her rather than rushed, on admission for surgery
  • A college student athlete who had a severe blood disorder that was ultimately terminal
  • A vibrant woman in her 20s with two small children who had a virulent form of breast cancer that had extended to other parts of the body. I buried before she was 30 and I remember her and her name after all these decades
  • Several people exteriorly active but suffering from heart maladies concerning regulation of the rhythm not adequately treated by medicine or medical device. Arrhythmia is certainly a dangerous condition, above all when it is not under sufficient control
  • A man whose accident left him dismembered but whose injuries were plagued by a dangerous infection that always was just out of the reach of his physicians and that resulted in subsequent operations to resolve gangrene
  • A distinguished man, well dressed and well presented, whom I couldn’t readily discern his complaint. I’d taken him to be 50…he was almost 80
So, yes, it’s as wholly wrong for a person with absolutely no connection to the person – and is not the parish priest who properly has cura animarum – trying to figure out why someone is approaching the sacrament of the sick as it is wrong for a parishioner to sit and speculate on why a person is not approaching the Eucharist at Communion…or what a person going to confession might have to confess. That is wholly and entirely wrong in every instance

I always methodically explained the criteria for the sacrament’s reception…providing it verbally and in writing. No one was ever questioned in such circumstances as to which criteria prompted them to come forward. I accepted their ability to make an informed decision. And I respected it

I would have been livid had a parishioner inserted themselves into this matter in the interest of “protecting the sacrament.” That is not their role and they have grossly overstepped their bounds to try to come between a parishioner, the parish priest and the administration of a sacrament

For some people, their condition may be deeply personal and one they keep confidential

I knew a number of people over the years who had received an initial diagnosis and turned to the Lord and to me for pastoral help. They were frightened. They did not know if the initial intervention would solve the issue or perhaps exacerbate it

The anointing of the sick is the Lord’s healing touch sacramentally upon the body of one who is suffering. They received the sacrament because the presence of the issue in their body was, indeed, the beginning perhaps the very inception of danger. And they needed the help of the sacrament as they confronted a very frightening and as yet not fully known danger

Being a parish priest, one was often in amazement at the crosses of various sort that people were carrying…trying to carry…often unaware by anyone else

Finally, as regard the question of mental health and addiction…I had studied psychology before I entered the seminary. Although I never practiced as a clinician, I stayed abreast of my field and it helped with regard to involvement in aspects of pastoral theology in this area

Many psychological pathologies have physiological issues; they can arise from various organic disorders or abnormalities. When that is established and that thereby there is, in fact, “danger” then the sacrament of the sick does indeed become an object for recourse in a well developed pastoral care plan for the patient being treated holistically.

The same is true for addiction which can have very far reaching physiological effects, be it alteration in brain chemistry, damage to organs that can hasten death (such as acquisition of hepatitis and liver failure), cardiac issues that result from overdose/abuse and a whole host of other issues

A priest who particularly has the cura animarum for the sick of his diocese has to increase his own clinical knowledge in the fields of the sick whom he tends and also develop strong professional relationship with medical care-providers who can guide him in areas in which he may not have the full familiarity he needs to make determinations about the propriety of employing this sacrament in a particular diagnosis

Often, if he has received a sound formation in sacramental theology as well as pastoral theology, he will have the resources to match up with the medical explanations physicians can supply data with which he can make a cross discipline determination that he is justified in giving the sacrament to a patient who, classically, might not have received it
 
Here is a link to what was done by the Archbishop of Seattle this past February. If you are not in this diocese, he would at least be your Metropolitan.
We’re next door, so to speak. Possibly our diocese has had that & we just weren’t paying attention.
 
Most assuredly!

I have no idea what is done in your part of the world for World Day for the Sick. I would hope great moment would be made of it…led by your diocesan bishop.

Here is a link to what was done by the Archbishop of Seattle this past February. If you are not in this diocese, he would at least be your Metropolitan.

seattlearchdiocese.org/Assets/PastoralCare/7090_WorldDayoftheSick.pdf
We are still including Archbishop Peter Sartain in our Mass intentions for his recovery after having neck surgery in January, 2016 and back surgery in June of this year.
nwcatholic.org/news/local/archbishop-sartain-recovering-after-back-surgery
 
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