Anointing of the Sick - How Sick?

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Can one receive anointing for a troublesome undiagnosed illness? Also, I’ve heard that it is even appropriate for those battling infertility. I know a few who are inquiring about this so I’d like to give them insight into the appropriate time to present oneself for the Sacrament.
 
Can one receive anointing for a troublesome undiagnosed illness? Also, I’ve heard that it is even appropriate for those battling infertility. I know a few who are inquiring about this so I’d like to give them insight into the appropriate time to present oneself for the Sacrament.
Seriously ill or in danger of death from the illness or treatment. Infirm or aged also, I personally don’t think infertility qualifies. It says that a pastor should seek the advice of qualified medical personel to determine seriousness.
 
Can one receive anointing for a troublesome undiagnosed illness? Also, I’ve heard that it is even appropriate for those battling infertility. I know a few who are inquiring about this so I’d like to give them insight into the appropriate time to present oneself for the Sacrament.
As a Recovered Alcoholic, I have twice received the Annointing of the Sick. The Church accepts that alcoholism is a chronic disease, not a moral failing or sin. That we are not bad people trying to become good, but sick people trying to become well.

So no more “taking of the pledge”. No more being called “reformed” alcoholics. :o

I doubt this is much of an answer to your question, but it might help to give you some idea of the Church’s thinking on this Sacrament.:confused:
 
I was losing a lot of weight, and couldn’t figure out why. Tests were being run. I went to be anointed before some tests, and it was discovered that I was suffering from Chronic Renal Failure and associated ailments due to diabetes. The weird thing is that my blood sugar levels were going so low, I had to cut down, and eventuallly cut out most of my diabetes meds to keep from going hypoglycemic. (All I take now for it is Avandia).

A big part of medicine is dignosis. Could this initial anointing help uncover the problem? I believe so.

And when Stage IV was confirmed (meaning dialysis is just around the corner), I asked for anointing again. I was anointed at the Divine Liturgy, and beforehand, the Priest urged the congregation, “Let’s shake the Throne with prayers for our brother.”

Just before I had to go to surgery to put the fistula in my arm to allow a port for dialysis, I was nointed again.

Latest report–my kidney function has improved from 19% (just before Stage V and dialysis being necessary) to 40%. My nephrologist was pleasantly surprised. He hasn’t seen that much improvement before.

I personally believe that God is in the process of doing a miracle. Of course, He has all eternity to work on me! 🙂

I’m facing cataract surgery in a few weeks. You’d better believe I’m getting anointed before hand.
 
Could be this info is strictly the opinion of the priest that offered it, but I was told that it’s no longer “extreme unction”…in other words, don’t wait until you’re on your deathbed. If you have something that needs healing, get annointed. I can’t imagine a priest denying this sacrament to anyone who felt they needed it.
 
Could be this info is strictly the opinion of the priest that offered it, but I was told that it’s no longer “extreme unction”…in other words, don’t wait until you’re on your deathbed. If you have something that needs healing, get annointed. I can’t imagine a priest denying this sacrament to anyone who felt they needed it.
In my home parish they offer the anointing of the sick every Saturday morning. What bothers me is that the same people get up every week. Some have been doing so for years. Of course there are some new ones too. The priest says if you are seriously ill or facing major surgery. I kind of think this is an abuse of the sacrament to receive it every week for years since it is a sacrament for the seriously ill and should only be received again if the illness takes a turn for the worse (I don’t have the exact wording from the general instruction).

Also, a question a lay chaplain firiend asked me if the sacrament absolves you from sin, even if you are not at deaths door and can easily go to confession. She said that in the hospital she was told that if someone was anointed they could receive communion even if they have not been practicing their faith or have been living in a sinful situation. I didn’t have the answer for her. I guess I could have asked at work but I sort of wanted to keep this confidential until I knew more.
 
Could be this info is strictly the opinion of the priest that offered it, but I was told that it’s no longer “extreme unction”…in other words, don’t wait until you’re on your deathbed. If you have something that needs healing, get annointed. I can’t imagine a priest denying this sacrament to anyone who felt they needed it.
The priest was right, it’s the ‘Sacrament of the Sick’ and it should be administered while you still can participate in it. They usually won’t deny it to anyone, but the ritual book still says that it should be during ‘serious’ illness.

Recently the parish celebrated this sacrament during Mass. I’m the only one who didn’t go up to receive it. A young woman even argued with her mother that she didn’t need this sacrament as she wasn’t ill but her mother made her go anyway. Another gal, who is presently investigating the possibility of becoming Catholic, went up to receive it and she later presented herself for Communion which the pastor gave her. Now why would she bother to convert when she can just show up any day and receive Communion?
 
I am a migraine sufferer. Those of you who are familiar, and, who may be in the same boat, may know that this is no small illness. Often, this is very painful. Lately, I have had to contend with numbness in my fingers and with a tingling sensation that has lasted for days. This past Tuesday, the pain was married to an acute tingling sensation. I finally worked up enough nerve to ask my PV, who was celebrating Mass at the hospital chapel, to annoint me. I started to explain the situation (as my friend, he already is very familiar with my case) and he stopped me in mid sentence and stated to annoint me. One of the deacons, who also works at the hospital, suggested that I should have myself checked because from what I had been describing, it may sound like a symptom of a greater problem. As soon as my schedule at work frees up, I will do so. Even as I am typing, I am still experiencing a tingling in my fingers. Please keep me in prayers.

Incidentally, whenever my mother went for her chemo, I always made sure that she received the sacrament of annointing of the sick.
 
In my home parish they offer the anointing of the sick every Saturday morning. What bothers me is that the same people get up every week. Some have been doing so for years. Of course there are some new ones too. The priest says if you are seriously ill or facing major surgery. I kind of think this is an abuse of the sacrament to receive it every week for years since it is a sacrament for the seriously ill and should only be received again if the illness takes a turn for the worse (I don’t have the exact wording from the general instruction).

Also, a question a lay chaplain firiend asked me if the sacrament absolves you from sin, even if you are not at deaths door and can easily go to confession. She said that in the hospital she was told that if someone was anointed they could receive communion even if they have not been practicing their faith or have been living in a sinful situation. I didn’t have the answer for her. I guess I could have asked at work but I sort of wanted to keep this confidential until I knew more.
The normal and proper order of the Sacraments would be Sacramental Confession (for someone who is aware of Mortal Sin), Anointing of the Sick, and then Holy Communion.

The Sacrament of the Sick does forgive Mortal sins IF you are unable to confess your sins in the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

To receive the Sacrament of the Sick in Mortal sin when the Sacrament of Reconciliation was available to you but you choose not to go, would be another sin.
 
The normal and proper order of the Sacraments would be Sacramental Confession (for someone who is aware of Mortal Sin), Anointing of the Sick, and then Holy Communion.

The Sacrament of the Sick does forgive Mortal sins IF you are unable to confess your sins in the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

To receive the Sacrament of the Sick in Mortal sin when the Sacrament of Reconciliation was available to you but you choose not to go, would be another sin.
Yes, that was the way it was in my case. Both times I was on retreat, went to confession, then had the annointing, then had the mass. The Retreat Masters were very clear and understanding about all this. And I do believe (even if I cannot prove it) that it is another small help in staying sober.
 
I was anointed before a surgery I had, and also when I suffered an episode of major clinical depression. And I am going to ask for it before my upcoming surgery. I think these are legimate reasons to get anointed.
 
The normal and proper order of the Sacraments would be Sacramental Confession (for someone who is aware of Mortal Sin), Anointing of the Sick, and then Holy Communion.

The Sacrament of the Sick does forgive Mortal sins IF you are unable to confess your sins in the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

To receive the Sacrament of the Sick in Mortal sin when the Sacrament of Reconciliation was available to you but you choose not to go, would be another sin.
Well, she, the lay chaplain (I know you can’t use the term chaplain but that is what the hospital calls them), said the priest chaplain regularly anoints people without hearing their confession and then gives them communion. Thanks for the information. I did think that what he was doing didn’t sound kosher.
 
I was losing a lot of weight, and couldn’t figure out why. Tests were being run. I went to be anointed before some tests, and it was discovered that I was suffering from Chronic Renal Failure and associated ailments due to diabetes. The weird thing is that my blood sugar levels were going so low, I had to cut down, and eventuallly cut out most of my diabetes meds to keep from going hypoglycemic. (All I take now for it is Avandia).

A big part of medicine is dignosis. Could this initial anointing help uncover the problem? I believe so.

And when Stage IV was confirmed (meaning dialysis is just around the corner), I asked for anointing again. I was anointed at the Divine Liturgy, and beforehand, the Priest urged the congregation, “Let’s shake the Throne with prayers for our brother.”
Just before I had to go to surgery to put the fistula in my arm to allow a port for dialysis, I was nointed again.

Latest report–my kidney function has improved from 19% (just before Stage V and dialysis being necessary) to 40%. My nephrologist was pleasantly surprised. He hasn’t seen that much improvement before.

I personally believe that God is in the process of doing a miracle. Of course, He has all eternity to work on me! 🙂

I’m facing cataract surgery in a few weeks. You’d better believe I’m getting anointed before hand.
:crying: And to think there are those who don’t believe in miracles. Gotta wipe the tears off…:clapping:
In my home parish they offer the anointing of the sick every Saturday morning. What bothers me is that the same people get up every week. Some have been doing so for years. Of course there are some new ones too. The priest says if you are seriously ill or facing major surgery. I kind of think this is an abuse of the sacrament to receive it every week for years since it is a sacrament for the seriously ill and should only be received again if the illness takes a turn for the worse (I don’t have the exact wording from the general instruction).
Well…one never knows if another has a chronic illness and is able to hide it well…but I know what you mean about abuse of the sacrament. (*PET PEEVE ALERT) We have some folks on our prayer list that have been on there for years…a couple who have even left the parish. The problem is that they take up space on the prayer list published in the bulletin, and let’s face it, we could legitimately put every member of the parish on that list and pray for something for each one, but it’s meant for current illnesses and “new” prayer issues.

Now I’m not advocation not praying for these people, but for some it seems almost…well…a superstition that if they get taken off the prayer list they’ll get worse. (PET PEEVE OVER)

I hazard a guess that there may be some people who do the same with the sacrament. 🤷
 
In my home parish they offer the anointing of the sick every Saturday morning. What bothers me is that the same people get up every week. Some have been doing so for years. Of course there are some new ones too. The priest says if you are seriously ill or facing major surgery. I kind of think this is an abuse of the sacrament to receive it every week for years since it is a sacrament for the seriously ill and should only be received again if the illness takes a turn for the worse (I don’t have the exact wording from the general instruction).
At Masses in the Basilica at Knock anointing of the sick is done. It is announced that people should remember it is a sacrament and that they should receive no more than once a month. I do not believe they would turn someone away if they noticed someone ignoring this ‘rule’.
 
I was anointed before a surgery I had, and also when I suffered an episode of major clinical depression. And I am going to ask for it before my upcoming surgery. I think these are legimate reasons to get anointed.
I agree. I only say that many times pastors forget to remind people to receive the Sacrament of Confession just prior to receiving the Sacrament of Anointing of the Sick.
 
Well, she, the lay chaplain (I know you can’t use the term chaplain but that is what the hospital calls them), said the priest chaplain regularly anoints people without hearing their confession and then gives them communion. Thanks for the information. I did think that what he was doing didn’t sound kosher.
He does not have to hear their confession but should offer to. If they are in a State of Sanctifying Grace, with no known mortal sins, there is no need to. However the Sacrament of Reconciliation can also be received without confessing mortal sin also.
 
He does not have to hear their confession but should offer to. If they are in a State of Sanctifying Grace, with no known mortal sins, there is no need to. However the Sacrament of Reconciliation can also be received without confessing mortal sin also.
But can they then receive communion? My friend said that in talking to some of the patients they say they have not been to mass in years but the priest anointed them and gave them communion without confession. Once she was in the room when the priest did this. This priest also anointed a Jewish man. Maybe he doesn’t ask the religion of the person, just anoints everyone. It is a Catholic hospital so maybe he thinks only Catholics go there. He is not from this country.
 
But can they then receive communion? My friend said that in talking to some of the patients they say they have not been to mass in years but the priest anointed them and gave them communion without confession. Once she was in the room when the priest did this. This priest also anointed a Jewish man. Maybe he doesn’t ask the religion of the person, just anoints everyone. It is a Catholic hospital so maybe he thinks only Catholics go there. He is not from this country.
I have no idea the circumstances in these specific cases. I do know that it has been states in many articles that the Sacrament of Anointing of the Sick is or can be one of the most abused. A person who has not been to Mass “in years” intentionally and had the ability to go to Mass, a Mortal sin?. I would believe would need to Confess that in Reconciliation BEFORE receiving any other Sacraments.

Generally only a Baptized Catholic can receive the Sacrament of Anointing of the Sick.
 
Can one receive anointing for a troublesome undiagnosed illness? Also, I’ve heard that it is even appropriate for those battling infertility. I know a few who are inquiring about this so I’d like to give them insight into the appropriate time to present oneself for the Sacrament.
Anyone suffering from a sickness can request the Sacrament of Anointing. The circumstances you listed above fall under the appropriateness of receiving the sacrament. It used to be called Extreme Unction and was given on one’s deathbed. It still can be used in this way, but the understanding is deeper now to include sickness in spirit, mind and body.
 
Anyone suffering from a sickness can request the Sacrament of Anointing. The circumstances you listed above fall under the appropriateness of receiving the sacrament. It used to be called Extreme Unction and was given on one’s deathbed. It still can be used in this way, but the understanding is deeper now to include sickness in spirit, mind and body.
I was initially hesitant when I approached my PV about annointing me last Tuesday. As I indicated in my initial post, I suffer from migraines and this bout has been the most severe of the lot (including tingling in my fingers). He was very supportive and annointed me right away.

Yes, I go to confession at least once a month, if not sooner. I’m not one to shy away from that sacrament at all. However, I was reticent about approaching my PV because I didn’t think that my ailment qualified me as worthy of receiving the annointing of the sick.

But, the deacon (hospital staff member) explained to me that migraines are pretty serious stuff (espcially wiht the tingling) and, along with a re-visit to the doctor, he and my PV believe that it was appropriate for me to receive the Sacrament at that time.
 
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