Another good Catholic resouce

[workingman]

I found this I am sure most Catholics know about it. I have found it very helpful my exploration of the Catholic faith/church.
scripturecatholic.com/

sorry if I put this in the wrong cagtigory

 

[Eucharisted]

Awesome website

 

[Luke65]

 

[jpjd]

I have reservations about this site. Click on the topic of Geocentrism, for example. He supports geocentrism and a literal interpretation of the Bible, neither of which the Church teaches.

 

[Luke65]

I have reservations about this site. Click on the topic of Geocentrism, for example. He supports geocentrism and a literal interpretation of the Bible, neither of which the Church teaches.

That is what the Catholic Church teaches - as he has documented well. Just because modern Churchmen have abandoned some of the Church’s teachings doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

 

[jpjd]

The Church in no way teaches geocentrism or a literal interpretation of the Bible.

 

[workingman]

I have reservations about this site. Click on the topic of Geocentrism, for example. He supports geocentrism and a literal interpretation of the Bible, neither of which the Church teaches.

Now I am not a Catholic yet, but in my readings and understanding. The Bible should be read l literally. How can one not take This is my body and this is my blood literally or symbolically. Is means is. Not This is in a spiritual sense. I know as a Lutheran at this time there are some interpretation differences but that is why I am exploring the Catholic Church. I know we should not pick and choose what should be taken literally.

 

[tobinatorstark]

I have reservations about this site. Click on the topic of Geocentrism, for example. He supports geocentrism and a literal interpretation of the Bible, neither of which the Church teaches.

Just because he supports it doesn’t mean that all will support it. I personally support a literal interpretation of the Bible. I don’t know enough about geocentrism. I do know the Church has no teaching on it though

 

[workingman]

Just because he supports it doesn’t mean that all will support it. I personally support a literal interpretation of the Bible. I don’t know enough about geocentrism. I do know the Church has no teaching on it though

I have a question. Does the Catholic Church still teach literal interpretation? I hope for the sake of the Church it still does.

 

[Luke65]

I have a question. Does the Catholic Church still teach literal interpretation? I hope for the sake of the Church it still does.

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

The senses of Scripture
115 According to an ancient tradition, one can distinguish between two *senses *of Scripture: the literal and the spiritual, the latter being subdivided into the allegorical, moral and anagogical senses. The profound concordance of the four senses guarantees all its richness to the living reading of Scripture in the Church.

116 The literal sense is the meaning conveyed by the words of Scripture and discovered by exegesis, following the rules of sound interpretation: "All other senses of Sacred Scripture are based on the literal."83

117 The spiritual sense. Thanks to the unity of God’s plan, not only the text of Scripture but also the realities and events about which it speaks can be signs.

1. The allegorical sense. We can acquire a more profound understanding of events by recognizing their significance in Christ; thus the crossing of the Red Sea is a sign or type of Christ’s victory and also of Christian Baptism.84
2. The moral sense. The events reported in Scripture ought to lead us to act justly. As St. Paul says, they were written “for our instruction”.85
3. The anagogical sense (Greek: anagoge, “leading”). We can view realities and events in terms of their eternal significance, leading us toward our true homeland: thus the Church on earth is a sign of the heavenly Jerusalem.86

118 A medieval couplet summarizes the significance of the four senses:

The Letter speaks of deeds; Allegory to faith;
The Moral how to act; Anagogy our destiny.87

119 "It is the task of exegetes to work, according to these rules, towards a better understanding and explanation of the meaning of Sacred Scripture in order that their research may help the Church to form a firmer judgment. For, of course, all that has been said about the manner of interpreting Scripture is ultimately subject to the judgement of the Church which exercises the divinely conferred commission and ministry of watching over and interpreting the Word of God."88

But I would not believe in the Gospel, had not the authority of the Catholic Church already moved me.89

 

[workingman]

Luke65;4934791]CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

The senses of Scripture
115 According to an ancient tradition, one can distinguish between two *senses *of Scripture: the literal and the spiritual, the latter being subdivided into the allegorical, moral and anagogical senses. The profound concordance of the four senses guarantees all its richness to the living reading of Scripture in the Church.

So yes and no would be the answer

116 The literal sense is the meaning conveyed by the words of Scripture and discovered by exegesis, following the rules of sound interpretation: "All other senses of Sacred Scripture are based on the literal."83

So the meaning of the words are literal but say what about the second part

117 The spiritual sense. Thanks to the unity of God’s plan, not only the text of Scripture but also the realities and events about which it speaks can be signs.

1. The allegorical sense. We can acquire a more profound understanding of events by recognizing their significance in Christ; thus the crossing of the Red Sea is a sign or type of Christ’s victory and also of Christian Baptism.84
2. The moral sense. The events reported in Scripture ought to lead us to act justly. As St. Paul says, they were written “for our instruction”.85
3. The anagogical sense (Greek: anagoge, “leading”). We can view realities and events in terms of their eternal significance, leading us toward our true homeland: thus the Church on earth is a sign of the heavenly Jerusalem.86

118 A medieval couplet summarizes the significance of the four senses:

The Letter speaks of deeds; Allegory to faith;
The Moral how to act; Anagogy our destiny.87

119 "It is the task of exegetes to work, according to these rules, towards a better understanding and explanation of the meaning of Sacred Scripture in order that their research may help the Church to form a firmer judgment. For, of course, all that has been said about the manner of interpreting Scripture is ultimately subject to the judgement of the Church which exercises the divinely conferred commission and ministry of watching over and interpreting the Word of God."88

But I would not believe in the Gospel, had not the authority of the Catholic Church already moved me.89

What is this last statement mean.

 

[jpjd]

Let me clarify:

1. The Church does teach that the part of John 6 called “the Bread of Life discourse” is literal.
2. The Church does not teach that all passages of the Bible are literal. For example: Matthew 18: 8-9 -

*8 **If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter into life maimed or crippled than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into eternal fire. **9 *And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into fiery Gehenna.

1. The Church makes no statement either way on many passages in the Bible, such as the creation story.

So, to summarize, the Church teaches that some passages are to be interpreted literally, some are not, and others the Church has not said one way or the other.

 

[tobinatorstark]

Let me clarify:

1. The Church does teach that the part of John 6 called “the Bread of Life discourse” is literal.
2. The Church does not teach that all passages of the Bible are literal. For example: Matthew 18: 8-9 -

*8 **If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter into life maimed or crippled than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into eternal fire. **9 *And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into fiery Gehenna.

1. The Church makes no statement either way on many passages in the Bible, such as the creation story.

So, to summarize, the Church teaches that some passages are to be interpreted literally, some are not, and others the Church has not said one way or the other.

quite correct you are. I think most of us can distinguish was is literal and not literal.

 

[tobinatorstark]

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

The senses of Scripture
115 According to an ancient tradition, one can distinguish between two *senses *of Scripture: the literal and the spiritual, the latter being subdivided into the allegorical, moral and anagogical senses. The profound concordance of the four senses guarantees all its richness to the living reading of Scripture in the Church.

116 The literal sense is the meaning conveyed by the words of Scripture and discovered by exegesis, following the rules of sound interpretation: "All other senses of Sacred Scripture are based on the literal."83

117 The spiritual sense. Thanks to the unity of God’s plan, not only the text of Scripture but also the realities and events about which it speaks can be signs.

1. The allegorical sense. We can acquire a more profound understanding of events by recognizing their significance in Christ; thus the crossing of the Red Sea is a sign or type of Christ’s victory and also of Christian Baptism.84
2. The moral sense. The events reported in Scripture ought to lead us to act justly. As St. Paul says, they were written “for our instruction”.85
3. The anagogical sense (Greek: anagoge, “leading”). We can view realities and events in terms of their eternal significance, leading us toward our true homeland: thus the Church on earth is a sign of the heavenly Jerusalem.86

118 A medieval couplet summarizes the significance of the four senses:

The Letter speaks of deeds; Allegory to faith;
The Moral how to act; Anagogy our destiny.87

119 "It is the task of exegetes to work, according to these rules, towards a better understanding and explanation of the meaning of Sacred Scripture in order that their research may help the Church to form a firmer judgment. For, of course, all that has been said about the manner of interpreting Scripture is ultimately subject to the judgement of the Church which exercises the divinely conferred commission and ministry of watching over and interpreting the Word of God."88

But I would not believe in the Gospel, had not the authority of the Catholic Church already moved me.89

Thank you for these passages from the Catechism. They will be of use to me in the near future.

 

[Luke65]

Thank you for these passages from the Catechism. They will be of use to me in the near future.

Sure, I think we might need to post it on every thread!

 

[workingman]

Overall what is the opinion of all on this web sight? Should I continue to use it in my studies of the Catholic Church?

 

[Always_For_Him]

YES!!!

Please keep using this site! There are thousands of threads to answer any question you should have.

I came here to further my knowledge of Catholocism. It can get hectic, but I absolutely LOVE reading the informative posts in response to errrant teaching that non-Catholics write here. Once I firmly believed in my heart that the Catholic Church IS the Church that Christ founded using Peter and the Apostles, and believed that His breathing on them giving them His Authority to teach, forgive sins and found His visible Church on earth, everything became much easier to read, listen to, understand, believe. Apostolic teaching is all we have. It is a blessing that the ECF’s wrote so much to explain what the actual context of the teachings meant. This was all before the Bible canon had even been established. The ECF’s write so beautifully about most anything you are going to question. Their understanding of Christ’s Deposit of Faith is what they were writing in such detail about. You really can’t write tradition down very well. Since Christ’s Deposit of Faith was given completely through oral transmission AND tradition, it has to be understood in it’s complete entirety. Christ chose the way He wanted His Truth taught and brought to all men from then until the end of time. He established His Church, gave it His Authority and promise that He would guide and protect Her until the end of time. Not even the gates of Hades would prevail against His Church. You cannot separate Oral Tradition and Sacred Tradition when decifering the meaning of Sacred Scripture. Catholic teaching IS what was later written down in what we know today as the Bible. It has to be understood in the context of what it had always been taught to mean and in the exact context as it was written down to mean. That is why no Scripture is of any man’s own personal interpretation. Christ’s Church is so deep and full of beautiful, rich meaning and understanding, you are in for a BEAUTIFUL, spiritual journey.