Another Good Friday "novelty"?

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Well, we obviously need to pray for forgiveness for this poor priest and liturgist (et al).

As far as what to do about this abomination (and the Deacon announcing the 5-6 min break, also bothered me the most, too!) I would report it, with as much documentation as you can (several eye-witness reports, too) to the Bishop. I’d send a copy of the letter written to the Bishop to the priest. Then I’d follow what Fr. Groeschel advises to those who witness liturgical abominations in their church. He says to run, not walk, to another parish. I am very liturgically oriented along with being traditional/orthodox, however after I am in a parish with abuses, I start to get used to them and become apathetic - even somewhat relativistic:eek:.
 
A parish near my home had an “instruments” service in the morning on Good Friday. I didn’t attend, but I assume it was much like you described. But their official service, with the veneration of the cross and Holy Communion was held in the evening.

Another parish in my area, however, conducts veneration of the cross “rock concert style.” They have a huge wooden cross (eight feet long, no corpus) that they lift up and hand to the people in the first couple rows of one section of the congregation. The people then pass the cross over their heads, from the front of that section to the back. I was there for this “mosh pit moment” and was less than impressed. On the other hand, when people went to receive Holy Communion, at least 75% genuflected before receiving, a practice that is quite uncommon in these parts.

My own parish had a traditional, reverent service, complete with well-executed, a capella music by the choir, times of silent reflection, and traditional veneration of the cross. It was a wonderful preparation for the joys of the Easter Vigil.

Gertie
 
It would have been funnier if the dice were polyhedric dice, the sorts used by tabletop roleplay gamers. Using those would have been a good way to reach out to the geeks in the congregation.

But yeah, this attempt at a ritual sounds a bit too… cluttered.
 
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Gertabelle:
A parish near my home had an “instruments” service in the morning on Good Friday … Another parish in my area, however, conducts veneration of the cross “rock concert style” … My own parish had a traditional, reverent service, complete with well-executed, a capella music by the choir, times of silent reflection, and traditional veneration of the cross.
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What a great situation - responding to the fact that people respond to different types of spiritual experiences. Also reflects an understanding that one parish usually cannot be “all things to all people.”
 
This is really crazy! I was at mass one time on Good Friday and someone was pounding nails into a log, while a guy was screaming in the background. Creepy, but not as insane as some of this. Dice? Car wash sponges?

Hmm.
 
Ockham said:
The “Spirit Of Vatican II”???
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This has been said on a million threads: Vatican II is NOT the cause of liturgical abuses. Abuses eexisted before the council. The source of abuses is liberalism and modernism
 
CWBetts said:
This has been said on a million threads: Vatican II is NOT the cause of liturgical abuses. Abuses eexisted before the council. The source of abuses is liberalism and modernism
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Thank you very much! 👍
 
I agree that modernism is the cause of most liturgical abuses and not Vatican II itself. To many, the phrase “spirit of Vatican II” has come to represent the modernist’s interpretation of the Council. Our pope has said we have to properly interpret the documents which suggests we haven’t been. Of course liturgical abuses existed prior to Vatican II but I’m not aware of such radical and sudden changes to the Church after any other Councils.
 
Ockham said:
I agree that modernism is the cause of most liturgical abuses and not Vatican II itself. To many, the phrase “spirit of Vatican II” has come to represent the modernist’s interpretation of the Council. Our pope has said we have to properly interpret the documents which suggests we haven’t been. Of course liturgical abuses existed prior to Vatican II but I’m not aware of such radical and sudden changes to the Church after any other Councils.
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I agree with everything you said. I just wanted to surmise that the “radical and sudden changes” since Vatican II may be due in large part to the radical and sudden changes in communication technology. Our world has shrunk to the size of a grain of sand with regard to communication, which means ridiculous abuse in one tiny parish can spread like hell fire around the world almost instantaneously.

The problem may be that while the world is moving in high-speed digital wireless, the Church is still typing up its memos on a manual typewriter in response to the abuses 🤷 Thankfully, at least in my area of the world, this seems to changing for the better, and abuses are dealt with swiftly. 👍

Just my two cents.

Gertie
 
Why should any of this be surprising when Benedict XVI, at his April 10, 2009, Way of the Cross in the Roman Coliseum, included verses from the pagan Hindu Upanishads and cited the Hindu Mahatma Ghandi?

Just another ecumenical service on what should have been the most solemn day of the year.
 
Christians say, “Hate the sin, love the sinner,” all the time as if it were from the Bible, but it’s really from Ghandi.

And is there any real difference between quoting Greek and Latin pagan philosophers and poets, as saints have done frequently, and quoting Hindu ones?
 
dixibehr said:
Christians say, “Hate the sin, love the sinner,” all the time as if it were from the Bible, but it’s really from Ghandi.

And is there any real difference between quoting Greek and Latin pagan philosophers and poets, as saints have done frequently, and quoting Hindu ones?
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Mmm, there’s some awesome, inspiring lines in the Upanishads; my personal favorites, and part of my personal creed:

“From delusion, lead me to Truth
From darkness, lead me to Light
From death, lead me to immortality.”
 
Gertabelle said:
I just wanted to surmise that the “radical and sudden changes” since Vatican II may be due in large part to the radical and sudden changes in communication technology. Our world has shrunk to the size of a grain of sand with regard to communication, which means ridiculous abuse in one tiny parish can spread like hell fire around the world almost instantaneously.
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That’s an interesting observation. I wonder how Communion-in-hand started in Europe during the seventies. Actually, without the internet I wouldn’t have discovered our pre-Vatican II Church and would probably be still receiving Communion in hand from an EMHC. After joining a Facebook fan group for Pope Benedict I saw another group called the New Liturgical Movement and it’s been quite the learning curve ever since. There’s not a lot of catechesis in most parishes these days and I’m growing my knowledge on-line. I pray that the ‘reform of the reform’ spreads like wild fire throught the Catholic world.
 
Ockham said:
That’s an interesting observation. I wonder how Communion-in-hand started in Europe during the seventies. Actually, without the internet I wouldn’t have discovered our pre-Vatican II Church and would probably be still receiving Communion in hand from an EMHC. After joining a Facebook fan group for Pope Benedict I saw another group called the New Liturgical Movement and it’s been quite the learning curve ever since. There’s not a lot of catechesis in most parishes these days and I’m growing my knowledge on-line. I pray that the ‘reform of the reform’ spreads like wild fire throught the Catholic world.
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We’re a bit off topic here, but I too have grown tremendously in my faith through the use of internet resources! Thanks be to God for those who are spreading the Truth of the Gospel in this way!
 
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