Another Pope?

[paramedicgirl]

Since the SSPX and Eastern Rites have “valid” Catholic Rites, #2 applies.

§2 Whenever necessity requires or a genuine spiritual advantage commends it, and provided the danger of error or indifferentism is avoided, Christ’s faithful for whom it is physically or morally impossible to approach a catholic minister, may lawfully receive the sacraments of penance, the Eucharist and anointing of the sick from non-catholic ministers in whose Churches these sacraments are valid.

So in the situation I referenced, the above Canon does not apply. Providing of course, they are considered non-Catholic.

 

[BobP123]

So in the situation I referenced, the above Canon does not apply. Providing of course, they are considered non-Catholic.

You got me there. Who considers the EO Catholic?

 

[Jean_Anthony]

This thread has gone off topic. If you wish to discuss EO priests and the sacraments of the Latin Church please start a new thread in the Eastern Christianity and/or the Liturgy and Sacraments forum. Thank you.

 

[paramedicgirl]

This thread has gone off topic. If you wish to discuss EO priests and the sacraments of the Latin Church please start a new thread in the Eastern Christianity and/or the Liturgy and Sacraments forum. Thank you.

Fair enough. What about the Conclavists? Does anyone know if they have valid sacraments? Are they even considered Catholic by the Church?

 

[AJV]

Fair enough. What about the Conclavists? Does anyone know if they have valid sacraments? Are they even considered Catholic by the Church?

From what little I’ve read on some of their teachings, the Palmarian sect borders on heresy, and the “Pius XIII” has some convuluted way of succession. Invoking Papal authority he, though a priest, consecrated his friend “Gordon Cardinal Bateman” a bishop and thus was ordained a bishop later himself by Bateman. As for HH Pope Michael I, I don’t think he’s even a priest. The Papal Secretary was very unresponsive when I emailed and asked.

 

[paramedicgirl]

From what little I’ve read on some of their teachings, the Palmarian sect borders on heresy, and the “Pius XIII” has some convuluted way of succession. Invoking Papal authority he, though a priest, consecrated his friend “Gordon Cardinal Bateman” a bishop and thus was ordained a bishop later himself by Bateman. As for HH Pope Michael I, I don’t think he’s even a priest. The Papal Secretary was very unresponsive when I emailed and asked.

Thanks AJV. Let us know if you ever get an answer from them.

 

[OLRansom]

…I agree with the previous poster that I can not see how the Holy Spirit could allow a large group of Catholics especially the bishops and cardinals to go into schism and heresy.

I would never speculate on what God would and would not allow - especially once I had read the history of the Israelites in the OT. Such things are way beyond men (or even angels).

Consider the condition of the Israelites as a whole at the time Our Blessed Lord came to redeem men.

“When the Son of Man returns, will He find faith…?”