Another reason for Communion on the tongue!

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I know that Communion on the tongue wouldn’t completely eliminate this kind of thing, but my opinion is that it would help to do so. Please pray for the end to this kind of occurance and for the repentance of those involved.

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theMutant:
I know that Communion on the tongue wouldn’t completely eliminate this kind of thing, but my opinion is that it would help to do so. Please pray for the end to this kind of occurance and for the repentance of those involved.

OCCULT EXPERTS WARN OF SATANIC “MARKET” FOR EUCHARIST
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It used to drive me crazy to see someone palm the Eucharist.(and still does to a degree)… when i discussed this with the priest, he said that some take home to a shut-in or ill relative, and have never been instructed as to the fact that there are ways (use of a pyx) to do that… Father said, that the Body of Christ is only the body of Christ for those that believe and respond with that very confirmation of “Amen” (or i believe)… For the Satanic person, he’s only wasting time with a piece of bread… I felt a little comfort with that explanation,… still gripes my - - - though to see it mishandled none the less… my problem i suppose… :o
 
Father said, that the Body of Christ is only the body of Christ for those that believe and respond with that very confirmation of “Amen” (or i believe)
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Unfortunately, in this matter your priest is mistaken. The Body of Christ remains the Body of Christ, no matter what happens to it. This is precisely why it is such a hideous desecration for it to be received unworthily or to be profaned in any way. The idea that the Body is only the Body for believers, and bread for everyone else, is a Protestant innovation.
 
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Father said, that the Body of Christ is only the body of Christ for those that believe and respond with that very confirmation of “Amen” (or i believe)… For the Satanic person, he’s only wasting time with a piece of bread…
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Your priest is sadly in error. The whole reason for the concern expressed in recent documents about people actually consuming the Host is that the Blessed Sacrament can indeed be desecrated. Jesus is present, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity, in the Host, whether surrounded by adoring believers or those who would desecrate it, or in the Tabernacle alone in a dark church or on the street being trampled. The only time the Real Presence ceases is when the consecrated species no longer have the appearance of bread or wine. Your priest’s view is that of many Protestants - it’s Jesus if I believe it is, and otherwise, it’s a symbol. Pray for him!

Betsy
 
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It used to drive me crazy to see someone palm the Eucharist.(and still does to a degree)… when i discussed this with the priest, he said that some take home to a shut-in or ill relative, and have never been instructed as to the fact that there are ways (use of a pyx) to do that… Father said, that the Body of Christ is only the body of Christ for those that believe and respond with that very confirmation of “Amen” (or i believe)… For the Satanic person, he’s only wasting time with a piece of bread… I felt a little comfort with that explanation,… still gripes my - - - though to see it mishandled none the less… my problem i suppose… :o
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That Father is not expressing a Catholic view of the Eucharist. Some people think that the bread and wine become the Eucharist by virtue of the faith of the one receiving it. However, Catholics believe that it becomes the Body and Blood of our Lord by virtue of the consecration by the priest, regardless of the beliefs of the one receiving it. There’s some nice little latin phrase used to describe that, but I forget what it is exactly.

Preventing the theft of the host is a very excellent and practical reason for restricting the reception of the Eucharist to the tongue. That I understand. I’m not sure I will ever understand why some people think that receiving it on the hand is intrinsically less dignified and many other such words.
 
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. Father said, that the Body of Christ is only the body of Christ for those that believe and respond with that very confirmation of “Amen” (or i believe)… For the Satanic person, he’s only wasting time with a piece of bread…
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If you receive at the TLM you’ll notice that the communicant says nothing. The practice was instituted in response to this heresy much as the practise of communion under one species came about in respose to the belief that you needed both.

As for the Satanist believing it’s only bread, I’ve heard more than once from former Satanist that they can tell an unconsecrated host from a consecrated on.
 
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There’s some nice little latin phrase used to describe that, but I forget what it is exactly.
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The nifty Latin phrase is “ex opere operato,” meaning by virtue of the act itself (in this case, the act of consecration).

Betsy
 
space ghost:
Father said, that the Body of Christ is only the body of Christ for those that believe and respond with that very confirmation of “Amen” (or i believe)… For the Satanic person, he’s only wasting time with a piece of bread… I felt a little comfort with that explanation,…
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I’m sorry, but the explanation Father gave you is flat out WRONG! The Eucharist remains the complete body, blood, soul, and divinity, of our Lord until the accidents of the form (bread) no longer exist. Therefore, if the Satinic person receives the host, anything he does with it is, IN FACT, being done to our Lord. Please do not take comfort in a false view about the Eucharist. Christ does not flee the Eucharist simply because a non-believer takes hold if Him.

It may be that Father was speaking of their perspective rather than the Catholic belief (i.e., if they don’t believe that Christ is present in the Eucharist then they don’t believe that they are actually doing anything to Christ) but I would question why they bother paying so much money for consecrated hosts to perform such rituals if they don’t believe.
 
why do you thing putting it in the hands is any different then the mouth? Of the stories of Eucharist abuse I have heard of the person recieved on the tounge, and then descretely(eg coughed) an put it into his hand.
To others who view this they think this is a very pious person…as one person said that seeing people recieve on the hand upsets them…and to elaborate on that it means that they would be more suspicious of a person recieving in the hands, yet it could be a person they overlook who is comitting the sacrliage
 
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Meggie:
why do you thing putting it in the hands is any different then the mouth? Of the stories of Eucharist abuse I have heard of the person recieved on the tounge, and then descretely(eg coughed) an put it into his hand.
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As I stated in post #1, I acknowledge that communion on the tongue would not completely eliminate the kind of occurances illustrated in the article. However, it is my opinion, that communion on the tongue gives a better witness to the reality of the Eucharist and the sacred role of the ordained priest acting in the person of Christ. Such witness will help the faithful to understand the reality of the Eucharist and may, in turn, reduce their temptation to smuggle Our Lord to such cultists for mere money.

I also believe that returning to the practice of communion on the tongue will reduce the number of accidents regarding the person of Christ (being dropped and even stepped on) that has certainly increased with the advent of communion in the hand while standing. I’ve seen Our Lord dropped while faithful communicants went to place Him in their mouths while walking away. I’ve also seen Him stepped on when they turned around to pick Him up.

I disagree with the assertion that it is no longer practical to receive communion on the tongue and in a kneeling position. I’ve been to many masses where that was done. It was highly efficient and orderly and took only slightly longer than the current prevailing practice; especially when the communicants knelt down along a communion rail.
 
Also, Christ said that his apostles were “to feed his sheep”, not “let them freed themselves”
 
It is said that to get into Heaven, we are to be like little children.

Who are the most deserving of Heaven? The little babies! Of all of us, they are the closest to the Creator because of their Innocence, and because they’ve not yet reached the Age of Reason.

Ask yourselves this: How do babies eat?

They are SPOON FED by their parents! Babies open their mouths and then recieve.

And since we are God’s Children, that makes God the one holding the spoon.

This is why Communion on the Tongue is best. It makes us more like little children!
 
Here’s some scriptural “references” or “hints” at preference toward Communion on the Tongue:

“And [the Lord] said to me: …“But you, son of man, hear what I say to you; be not rebellious like that rebellious house; open your mouth, and eat what I give you.”
And when I looked, behold, a hand was stretched out to me, and, lo, a written scroll was in it …
And He said to me; “Son of man, eat what is offered to you; eat this scroll, and go speak to the house of Israel.” So I opened my mouth, and He gave me the scroll to eat. “And I opened my mouth, and He caused me to eat that book.” -Vulgate].
And he said to me, “Son of man, eat this scroll that I give you and fill your stomach with it.”
Then I ate it, and it was in my mouth as sweet as honey.” (Ez. 2:1,8,9; 3:13, RSV)

AND

“I am the Lord your God, who brought you from the land of Egypt. Open wide your mouth and I will fill it … But Israel I would feed with finest wheat and fill them with honey from the rock.”
In all these examples, we see God feeding us directly, as a parent feeds his/her infant with a spoon, or directly.
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I read the link and this is downright sick that they are doing this. (I think Judas Escariot was the first to sell Our Lord) and the satanists are doing these sacraledgeous rituals to profane Our Lord cause they hate Him. It is becoming more widespread these days cause satan has been unleashed upon the world, and it is easier to steal Our Lord because we catholics don’t take care to protect Him as well as we used to. This is so seroius that if I was in a position, I would feel obliged to bring up the matter. We really need to make it harder for satanists to steal Jesus. All they have to do is come up to communion, pretend to recieve Jesus, then take Him away. And if the priest is watching, well, there are a number of things the satanist can do, except I won’t type them cause the devil can read this webpage and I don’t want to give him ideas
 
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theMutant:
I also believe that returning to the practice of communion on the tongue will reduce the number of accidents regarding the person of Christ (being dropped and even stepped on) that has certainly increased with the advent of communion in the hand while standing.
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I’m not sure I agree. So many EM’s are used to giving it on the hand, that they are skittish of placing it on someone’s tongue. I had one almost drop the host because she pulled her hand away so quickly. In my parish, we have a number of older, short EM’s. They can barely reach a tall person’s mouth. I have started receiving on my hand when I see an EM that is either a) short, b) really young or c) old and shaky. (we have one of those, too). In my opinion, I’ve changed the way I receive on some occasions to protect the host. —KCT
 
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theMutant:
I know that Communion on the tongue wouldn’t completely eliminate this kind of thing, but my opinion is that it would help to do so. Please pray for the end to this kind of occurance and for the repentance of those involved.

OCCULT EXPERTS WARN OF SATANIC “MARKET” FOR EUCHARIST
ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=48148
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That’s why we must alert all catholics about certain Novelties which lead to sacrileges such as “communion on the tongue.” smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_72.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_204v.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_109v.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_14_202.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_13_4.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_13_3.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_6_102.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_14_3.gif
 
While I prefer Communion on the tongue, I’m pretty sure if somebody wants to abuse the Eucharist, it will happen. We spend a lot of time in the vestibule with our active little toddler and just the other day when my husband got back there, there was a host on the floor. My husband pounced on it and consumed it. The really horrible thing is that it was quite moist. Either somebody spit it out or dropped it by mistake. :eek:
 
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Father said, that the Body of Christ is only the body of Christ for those that believe and respond with that very confirmation of “Amen” (or i believe)… For the Satanic person, he’s only wasting time with a piece of bread…
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I agree with those posts that dispute this error. However, that said, Father’s logic fails here. He suggests that “the Body of Christ is only the body of Christ for those that believe and respond with that very confirmation of “Amen”” Satanists DO believe it is the Body of Christ, so, according to Father’s own reasoning, it would be the Body of Christ for a Satanist. This is the very reason he/she is attempting to take Him for later desecration.

Again, all that said, belief does not negate or posit the Real Presence. Either the host is validly consecrated and Christ is truly present, or it is not and He is not.
 
 
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