Another Reason Hollywood Stinks

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As a screenwriter…I am always curious to know what kind of movies people do like…
So tell me…what would you like to see in film that has not been done yet?
How about a story about real people who behave like real people?

You see actors in Hollywood movies, and they all act like actors in Hollywood movies.

I wrote a story in which the main character is real.

She speaks to the British House of Commons, but she is really talking to reporters whom she will never meet.
“I will not answer your reporter’s questions. Nobody elected you. I’ll talk with elected heads of state when necessary for the public good.” :eek:
I waited a few seconds to let that last remark sink in. Then Steve and I walked out of the room.
Neither the House members nor any of the millions watching could believe it. They had never heard of any person with any kind of achievement no matter how small not seeking some kind of recognition for it. Nobody was immune. Even Medal of Honor winners, whose aura depended on a show of humility, at least gave one interview to one reporter. Here I’d just saved the world, and I wanted nothing to do with them. The
all-powerful World Empress wouldn’t make the rounds of the talk shows
and political meetings. I wanted a private life.
The British media commentators rallied to my side. One noted:
“Did you see her talk with the Prime Minister? Did she act like an actor or television personality? No! I dare say no actor could play her. She was a real person with no attempts to convince, fool, impress, charm, or ingratiate herself with people. She is your neighbor’s daughter, exceptionally gifted as we have seen, but otherwise a very ordinary girl. She wants privacy. She earned it.”
 
How about a story about real people who behave like real people?

You see actors in Hollywood movies, and they all act like actors in Hollywood movies.

I wrote a story in which the main character is real.

She speaks to the British House of Commons, but she is really talking to reporters whom she will never meet.
“I will not answer your reporter’s questions. Nobody elected you. I’ll talk with elected heads of state when necessary for the public good.” :eek:
You know…I wrote one with real people…real situations…and guess what Hollyweird said? “Thank you…but we are just not looking for this type of material at this time…” lol

i will keep trying though. 🙂
 
You know…I wrote one with real people…real situations…and guess what Hollyweird said? “Thank you…but we are just not looking for this type of material at this time…” lol

i will keep trying though. 🙂
You know what I want to see… A proper adaptation of Michael Ende’s classic children’s book “The Neverending Story”. The original film only adapted the first half of the novel(due to budget restraints at the time), and I would love to see it get a simular modern treatment to “The Chronicles of Narnia” the film adaptations of which I have loved so far.

The original Wolfgang Petersen film is a classic all by itself, but it’s only based on half of the novel and was disowned by the original author because of that…
 
You know what I want to see… A proper adaptation of Michael Ende’s classic children’s book “The Neverending Story”. The original film only adapted the first half of the novel(due to budget restraints at the time), and I would love to see it get a simular modern treatment to “The Chronicles of Narnia” the film adaptations of which I have loved so far.

The original Wolfgang Petersen film is a classic all by itself, but it’s only based on half of the novel and was disowned by the original author because of that…
I never read The Neverending story…I did see the movie though. And the Chronicals of Narnia was great, i loved it too.

Anyone here a fan of the Left Behind series? I would have loved to see those made into proper movies…but…the movies that came out from that were horrid.
 
…and guess what Hollyweird said? “Thank you…but we are just not looking for this type of material at this time…” lol
I get exactly the same line in the book publishing business.

It’s all about who you know, what your connections are.
Steve King could probably write a screenplay and get it made into a movie, even if the story is trash. People would see the movie because it’s a Steve King movie, even if it’s trash.

I finally tracked down the inspiration for The Shawshank Redemption. It was a Steve King short novel in a set of four novellas published as a single book.

Steve King’s novella was called Rita Haworth and the Shawshank Redemption. The movie was much better.
In King’s story, Andy sees four wardens in his time. The last, Norton, retires after Andy escapes. Norton got rid of Tommy, the young kid who’d met the real killer, by having him transferred to another prison. Other than that, Norton didn’t do anything illegal. Andy didn’t do any money laundering for Norton. Andy had his own pile of money stashed away for himself, waiting for his escape from prison.
There was very little interaction between Andy and Norton, which of course is what made the movie.
In Steve’s story, Red had no presence like Morgan Freeman had in the movie. Red was not interesting. There was no parole board hearing scene like in the movie. Red was just an old man who was finally released. He basically served as the narrator. Why Andy befriended him is a mystery.
 
I get exactly the same line in the book publishing business.

It’s all about who you know, what your connections are.
Steve King could probably write a screenplay and get it made into a movie, even if the story is trash. People would see the movie because it’s a Steve King movie, even if it’s trash.
Yeah…i dont know anyone in the industry. That is a problem. 😦
 
You know…I wrote one with real people…real situations…and guess what Hollyweird said? “Thank you…but we are just not looking for this type of material at this time…” lol

i will keep trying though. 🙂
Well of course the situations must be interesting, but what I meant was the reactions of real people to these situations.
To illustrate:

Theresa has just gone through a nerve-wracking experience:
…I screamed and shook my head violently. Then I broke down and cried. The unfairness and hopelessness of this situation! Even if I didn’t crash this thing Steve might already be dead. It was too much. I cried and cried.
…The little two propeller plane was at my side again. It must have been there for a while to document my crash into Manhattan killing forty thousand people. They had to have seen my breakdown. Well, what did they expect!
Can you imagine Sandra Bullock or Julia Roberts reacting like that? Not good for their career personae, you know. Bullock would probably make some witticism and Roberts would not react at all but jump to the next part of the scene. But the way I wrote it is exactly how at least some real 19 year old girls would react.
 
Well of course the situations must be interesting, but what I meant was the reactions of real people to these situations.
To illustrate:

Theresa has just gone through a nerve-wracking experience:

Can you imagine Sandra Bullock or Julia Roberts reacting like that? Not good for their career personae, you know. Bullock would probably make some witticism and Roberts would not react at all but jump to the next part of the scene. But the way I wrote it is exactly how at least some real 19 year old girls would react.
Oh, i see…yes, you are right. That does happen a lot in movies. LOL.
 
Well of course the situations must be interesting, but what I meant was the reactions of real people to these situations.
To illustrate:

Theresa has just gone through a nerve-wracking experience:

Can you imagine Sandra Bullock or Julia Roberts reacting like that? Not good for their career personae, you know. Bullock would probably make some witticism and Roberts would not react at all but jump to the next part of the scene. But the way I wrote it is exactly how at least some real 19 year old girls would react.
Bullock could do that scene… Have you seen “The Blind Side”? Although it’s likely she would delibratly underact the scene and not cry too much. However one of the only actresses I could in fact see doing that scene as it was written(both age wise and emotion wise) is Keira Knightly, or Natalie Portman.
 
However one of the only actresses I could in fact see doing that scene as it was written(both age wise and emotion wise) is Keira Knightly, or Natalie Portman.
Knightly, b. 1985, and Portman, b. 1981, don’t have the look I envisage for Theresa, and they’re too old.

Ellen Page, b. 1987, has the perfect llittle girl next door look, but she’s no longer a teenager. Maybe Ellen has a younger sister? 😃

It would not take a great acting talent to play Theresa. The role is of somebody with ordinary emotions, not “exaggerated, mugging” emotions like a stage actor. .
The situations provide more than enough cannon fodder to elicit emotional responses without overdoing it.
Theresa is a very smart girl and this tempers her reactions somewhat. Nevertherless, the situations are sometimes overwhelming and she reverts to a little girl for brief periods. But she soon recovers. 👍
One of the themes of the story is youth trying to understand the world. Theresa says this herself on page one: “My job as a kid was to figure out what the heck was going on and what to do about it. It’s not easy when you’re young and everything is brand new.”
When situations become overwhelming, Theresa temporarily acts like a ten year old girl, ( for the security: you have no responsibilities at age ten 😉 ) but she snaps out of it.
 
Knightly, b. 1985, and Portman, b. 1981, don’t have the look I envisage for Theresa, and they’re too old.

Ellen Page, b. 1987, has the perfect llittle girl next door look, but she’s no longer a teenager. Maybe Ellen has a younger sister? 😃

It would not take a great acting talent to play Theresa. The role is of somebody with ordinary emotions, not “exaggerated, mugging” emotions like a stage actor. .
The situations provide more than enough cannon fodder to elicit emotional responses without overdoing it.
Theresa is a very smart girl and this tempers her reactions somewhat. Nevertherless, the situations are sometimes overwhelming and she reverts to a little girl for brief periods. But she soon recovers. 👍
One of the themes of the story is youth trying to understand the world. Theresa says this herself on page one: “My job as a kid was to figure out what the heck was going on and what to do about it. It’s not easy when you’re young and everything is brand new.”
When situations become overwhelming, Theresa temporarily acts like a ten year old girl, ( for the security: you have no responsibilities at age ten 😉 ) but she snaps out of it.
Portman actually played a 16-18 year old in Black Swan despite being almost 30 at the time it was filmed(same went for co-star Mila Kunis). She still looks, and can act, very young. Which is why I thought of her. But yes you are right, she’s probably too old and it was probably very difficult to prepare her to play that role in Black Swan(hence the Oscar recognition), as they obviously had to take measures to “wind back” her visual age, including having her wear “tape” or a hidden restrictive upper body suit.

Page would still be young enough for the effects/make-up artists to work their wonders and get her looking that age without too much interferrance.

On serious roles such as Action films(Back To The Future for example, Michael J Fox was significantly older than Marty is supposed to be), more psychological Horror films(Black Swan), and some dramas(Madonna played Eva Peron in her teenage years as well), hollywood often takes that measure in order to work around child casting issues(for example a teen may not legally be able to work the extended hours required, so they have to cast an older actor) and visual continuity issues(More than just those of the film being a sequel too, BTTF is a great example of that).
 
Page would still be young enough for the effects/make-up artists to work their wonders and get her looking that age without too much interferrance
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She might fool us old guys, but would she fool teenagers?

Condider Jennifer Lawrence in the Hunger Games. She played a sixteen year old, but she was actually 21. She didn’t fool me. That was no sixteen year old.
I deal with hundreds of people every day including teenagers. You can usually tell when they’re minors.

Perhaps the only way for an actor to play a teenager is to actually be a teenager
and not act at all. :eek: 👍 👍
 
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She might fool us old guys, but would she fool teenagers?

Condider Jennifer Lawrence in the Hunger Games. She played a sixteen year old, but she was actually 21. She didn’t fool me. That was no sixteen year old.
I deal with hundreds of people every day including teenagers. You can usually tell when they’re minors.

Perhaps the only way for an actor to play a teenager is to actually be a teenager
and not act at all. :eek: 👍 👍
I know what you mean. Most of the “kids” in GLEE look like they’re old enough to be picking up their own kids from high school in a minivan out in the school parking lot.
 
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She might fool us old guys, but would she fool teenagers?

Condider Jennifer Lawrence in the Hunger Games. She played a sixteen year old, but she was actually 21. She didn’t fool me. That was no sixteen year old.
I deal with hundreds of people every day including teenagers. You can usually tell when they’re minors.

Perhaps the only way for an actor to play a teenager is to actually be a teenager
and not act at all. :eek: 👍 👍
Well as I said, the main reason hollywood employs this casting method is because Minors usually can’t(both legally and emotionally) work the hours required to get the film done within that certain production time period and a decision has to be made that will keep the producers happy the film won’t have any legal issues or delays without undermining the resulting story. I remember when the first Harry Potter was made, the producers had to “work wonders” in order to satisfy various unions and government bodies that the kids would not be overworked, including from what I recall submitting to limited hours of filming per day(for every kid, not just the main cast members). I recall them saying in the behind the scenes, that legally the kids could only work a maximum of 4 overall hours per day sometime from 9AM to 3PM(but someone might correct me) including make-up. This would have probably slowly become more relaxed as the kids aged through the 8 films(I only know about the first film). In fact I also think this is one reason why it took till the third film before any major on-location filming took place. If you’ve ever wondered why the first two films seem so heavily studio based, the work restrictions were probably the cause of it.

They also had to ensure the kids were not missing out on schooling and had to include private tutoring as well as other extra services(such as extra minders/babysitters for the times when the kids were on set, but not filming) in their budget. I’m certain the Hunger Games director and producers would have been aware of such issues(which with Harry Potter, and also The Chronicles of Narnia which had simular issues, really couldn’t be worked around) and put their foot down and decided to cast a young adult who could work the hours of a standard shoot(minimum 12 hour “turnaround”, as obviously films are shot at various times of the day/night and don’t always stick to a 9 to 5 workdays, not to mention the sometimes very very long makeup sessions) and not require any tutoring in the budget.
 
Some really blockbusting movies were made with kids who weren’t even teenagers:

Home Alone, a ten year old boy. He was onscreen all the time.

E.T. , a bunch of ten year olds and under. Onscreen all the time.

The kids can be rehearsed by a few acting coaches two or three hours a day over a long period, several months maybe,
then when the kids know their parts and are ready for filming,
bring them on the movie lot.
You only need 12 minutes of film a day, and in three weeks you have a movie.

The ten year old stars of the Annie stageplay are rehearsed for months.
Then they go on stage and do the whole show live with no retakes.
 
Some really blockbusting movies were made with kids who weren’t even teenagers:

Home Alone, a ten year old boy. He was onscreen all the time.

E.T. , a bunch of ten year olds and under. Onscreen all the time.

The kids can be rehearsed by a few acting coaches two or three hours a day over a long period, several months maybe,
then when the kids know their parts and are ready for filming,
bring them on the movie lot.
You only need 12 minutes of film a day, and in three weeks you have a movie.

The ten year old stars of the Annie stageplay are rehearsed for months.
Then they go on stage and do the whole show live with no retakes.
I know this, but they really rarely do it(on major Hollywood productions), because it entails a radically diffrent approach to the standard production procedure and when you are working with a schedule(say, a date on which the film must be ready to hit cinemas), it can be difficult for producers to work around the extra restrictions(including of the budgetary kind) which are placed on them by having young lead actors. Hence Natalie Portman is signed to play a 16-18 year old, despite being almost 30. Or of cause the classic example of a 16 year old Judy Garland playing a character who was originally 12 years old.

Audrey Hepburn(same rough age as Portman was) was originally approached and signed(by the young girl’s father) to portray Anne Frank, after he liked her as “young Sabrina”. She developed the role, and even had her name printed in early promotional materials as the lead star, till it came time to shoot the film(at which point she admitted she was in fact too old and also admitted she found it too emotional to take on, having been in a simular situation during the war), and she eventually tutored Millie Perkins in the role.

Of cause Harry Potter and Chronicles of Narnia would also be on your list!

I’m just explaining why it usually happens, that’s all…
 
As a screenwriter…I am always curious to know what kind of movies people do like…

So tell me…what would you like to see in film that has not been done yet?
I’ve wanted to see a World War 2 movie from the German perspective that shows the life of an average German soldier. Yea I am a WW2 buff :D. There is really an endless list of books and ideas that could be made into films. I think Hollywood is trying to be safe and sticking to names people can recognize. Original films are too risky. That’s not always the case though. There may be a lot of crumby movies made but there are still some good ones.

I like almost any movie genre except horror. It really depends on my mood. I too am interested in trying to get into movie making. Maybe not Hollywood necessarily though that is where the big money is.

As for Oscars, what does the academy know anyways. 😃
 
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