Another reply from Anti-Catholic Father in law

[VociMike]

Roman_Catholic:

But what are you suggesting? The only thing he wants to talk about is her decision in joining the Church. Should she switch and say that she no longer wants to discuss religion, which she tried before and he stopped talking to her?

She has every right to insist that her faith is not to be a constant subject of discussion, often hostile discussion. If he is so immature as to then refuse to talk to her, then the fault is with him, and he should be ashamed. Of course she should honor her father, but that does not include letting him wheedle and manipulate her.

It is truly sad that she has such a father as you have portrayed. Be sure that you understand the depth of her loss and do what you can to help her accept it. Support her, but don’t run her father down to her, even if she is doing so to you. You must both witness your faith to him even as you prevent him from injuring her any further.

 

[Subrosa]

Roman_Catholic:

Well I sent the reply… Thanks for everyones help!

I had her look over it to add or take out anything that she didnt want to put in there.

Who ever said we shouldnt have to be defending ou faith, he should be defending his is right. Maybe that is where the next email will go when he responds, which he will.

I will post his reponse later tonight when he responds.

Their relationship is already shattered. She was kicked out when he found out I was Catholic and she was dating me and she refused to stop seeing me. So we went to school together out of state which further angered him because he couldnt watch her play softball. Trust me their relationship couldnt get any worse so I am not worried about getting in between their relationship (as of right now they dont have a relationship, these are their own words). She has given this man more chances than he deserves really.

She asked if he was going to our wedding he said:

“I have a year to think about it, I am unsure right now. I wouldnt even know the woman getting married. She wouldnt be the woman I raised.”

She has come to the conclusion that she probably wont ask him again.

Christ teaches us to forgive “seventy times seven.” She should keep asking. If he doesn’t show up, it’s on him.

I once performed at a wedding between a Jewish man and muslim woman. Her father didn’t show up. Similar circumstances, I would say. Well, anyway, this woman was hurt by it, but she did what she was going to do, with or without him.

Show your father-in-law to be love and compassion, always portray that message. If there is anything about being christian that we should learn, that is it.

Happy Easter,
Subrosa

 

[Orionthehunter]

roman, I think that vocimike and subrosa nearly said it all, among other things:

Subrosa: Show your father-in-law love and compassion, always portray that message. If there is anything about being christian that we should learn, that is it.

VociMike: Support her, but don’t run her father down to her, even if she is doing so to you. You must both witness your faith to him even as you prevent him from injuring her any further.

Ultimately, IMHO, she needs to have a relationship with her father, even if it is disordered from his perspective. She, for her own sake, needs to have a relationship w/ her father and it ultimately needs to move off his opposition to her religion choice and probably you (this is not personal from him but a symptom of the other issues I previously discussed and you ALWAYS need to remember that so that you don’t become the focus). This might require her to patiently let him rant and express himself. Listening is a great way to express respect and honor and love. Over time, he will come to see the good fruits from her faith and you and his opposition will diminish.

In short, always think in the long-term and not winning an argument. God Bless you as you and her have a long haul but it is most likely God’s will.

 

[jim1130]

Roman_Catholic:

My future father in law answered our email. Want to know what every feels should be said in response.

Looking for a response to this. Doesnt really bring up any problems just a lot of speculations and more misconceptions. He says to follow him but than goes on to say not to trust a man cloacked in religion (a Father) but to use her own intellect. Hmmmmm. remember we are trying to be charitable with the hope to rid him of some misconceptions

Thanks

Peace.

You may wish to visit this Web site: angelfire.com/ms/seanie/deuteros/graham_contents.html - Where We Got the Bible: Our Debt to the Catholic Church to help educate HIM on the Bible. Chapter III is entitled “The Church Precedes the New Testament.”

This is on St. Jerome and the Canon of the Bible: angelfire.com/ms/seanie/deuteros/jeromedeuteros.html

I agree with all of those who state you must profess your knowledge in a loving and compassionate way. You do not want to one-up or “Aha! Gotcha” this person out of respect.

Peace.

 

[jben]

So, it’s been almost 5 months since this was going on. What ever happened? How is the relationship between father and daughter, and have you been able to talk with him more about the faith?

 

[Roman_Catholic_1]

So, it’s been almost 5 months since this was going on. What ever happened? How is the relationship between father and daughter, and have you been able to talk with him more about the faith?

Over the summer he tried to set up an intervention for here with some of his friends. She told him that she would not attend because she wouldnt feel confortable, and he needed to respect her decision to become Catholic. They argued for a good 30 minutes over the phone, finally he said he was done with her and the whole situation, she said fine. He repeated, “this means good-bye” she said good-bye and he hung up and they haven talked since… This was the beginning of May that this phone conversation took place. They havent talked since.

I have a more up too date thread on this whole situation somewhere else, where I posted some of his emails he was sending us before this phone conversation.

 

[SemperJase]

Where in the fundamentalist Bible does it say “reject your family if they do not accept your beliefs”?

Sure looks like agreement with his beliefs is more important than his love for his daughter.

 

[Psalm45_9]

Over the summer he tried to set up an intervention for here with some of his friends. She told him that she would not attend because she wouldnt feel confortable, and he needed to respect her decision to become Catholic. They argued for a good 30 minutes over the phone, finally he said he was done with her and the whole situation, she said fine. He repeated, “this means good-bye” she said good-bye and he hung up and they haven talked since… This was the beginning of May that this phone conversation took place. They havent talked since.

I have a more up too date thread on this whole situation somewhere else, where I posted some of his emails he was sending us before this phone conversation.

Man O Man, I will be praying for both of you. There are some people that you just can’t share our faith with. Just like that group from the Believer’s Chapel that used to come into the restaurant I worked at on Saturday nights and discuss typical anti-Catholic Rhetoric. I am an RCIA instructor, it sounds like you had a good teacher.

Here’s a book you might want to read and it is an easy read. It is called Born Fundamentalist, Born Again Catholic, it is by David Currie. David Currie was a Baptist who after diving into Church history felt that he must become a Catholic. This book was basically a long letter that he wrote to his father and friends about why he made his decision and he defends the faith against some of their misconceptions.

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[Bigwill]

Wow, there is so much misinformation in his e-mail that I honestly don’t know where to begin. It is obvious that your future father-in-law believes in Sola Scriptura. He says that he’s studied the Scriptures for the past 20 years. I would ask him where the doctrine of Sola Scriptura appears in his Bible. (Hint: it doesn’t.) He will undoubtedly accuse you of minimizing the Scriptures because of your (and the Church’s) belief that the Scriptures are not to be taken as the sole rule of faith. This is not minimizing the Scriptures–they themselves do not claim to be the sole rule of faith. In fact, the Bible is quite clear on what is the pillar and foundation of truth: the Church.

You will not get anywhere with your future father-in-law on doctrines. Although there is Scriptural evidence for each and every doctrine that he questions, he will move on to another topic rather than respond to your points. The only headway you’ll make will be to begin with asking him to prove to you why the Scriptures should be taken as the sole rule of faith. (And, just so you’re ready, remember–profitable does not mean sufficient.)

 

[riverman]

Just go to biblechristiansociety.com and download a John Martignoni MP3 on this. Ask him, “Dad, I know what you are saying but, listen to this and let me know what you think about it. Why is this interpretation wrong and yours right?”

 

[Verita]

Wow, this makes me grateful that my pretty anti-Catholic mother has turned indifferent about my conversion. I used to feel hurt that she didn’t seem to care at all, but now I see that it could be much worse.