Another Slap In The Face For Americans!

[Bullfighter]

Well you will never be a native American who are actually the people in the land long before the white man touched the soil there.

By the way, I am not American and nor do I live in America so can you tell me who these “invaders” are.

What qualifies an Indian as being Native. Being the first does not necessarily make one the best. A native is one who has nowhere else to go.

 

[Lujack]

The government of the United States has not, and never will be, based around the Anglo-Saxon. Its stupid to rank the contributions of ethnic groups, but if you have to, give credit to the Scotch-Irish, who settled the frontier, the Germans, the Potato Famine Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the French, the Native Americans, the Africans, and ten thousand other ethnic groups who had contributions just as important.

 

[Bullfighter]

I am not a practicing Catholic. However I strongly admire how the RCC was responsible for the creation and defense of western civilization. The RCC gave Europe hospitals, science, universities, charities, art, architecture, music, philosophy and literature.

Everyone who enjoys the fruits of western (European) civilization owes a debt to the RCC.

It’s been 1300 years since the Moors conquered Spain, and today Islam is still a powerful threat to western civilization.

The liberalism indoctrinated into western universities in the 60’s was a major factor leading to the west’s decline. European birthrates are well below replacement rates. Whites in California are now the minority. But you will never see affirmative action or minority rights accorded to them.

I dropped out of a Cultural Anthropology course for next semester.The first semester, in all courses, was like being sent to a Maoist retraining camp. But this cultural course is just too much. The course outline states; “The ultimate goal of the course is to help students view their own culture more critically”.

We had Asian, Middle Eastern and other foreign students in the first semester, but I can guarantee you that the underlying assumption is that only western culture is deserving of criticism.

For those that think we lost the culture war back in the 60’s, I submit two links to students who are still fighting the good fight.

This is a Catholic student at Olivet College, MI
youtube.com/watch?v=FmkC6UiZx3U&feature=channel_page

This is a secular student group, fighting the systemic Marxist indoctrination in universities.

youtube.com/user/Libtarded

Definitely a minority voice, but it’s good to see some people standing up to the hypocrisy.

It was a fascinating experience to attend college and suddenly hear some truth.

I remember in elementary and high school the politically correct answer for everything.

"George Washington: “I cannot tell a lie. I chopped down that cherry tree!”

Abraham Lincoln and his noble cause to free the slaves.

We bad white people enslaved the American Indian who never did a bad thing.

and others.

Then you get to college and George Washington owned slaves.

Abraham Lincoln wanted to free slaves but mostly to rally people against the South. He personally believe that the negro was inferior to the white.

The American Indian were called savages during the French and Indian War because they killed soldiers who surrendered and disembowled them to the horror of battle hardened European troops who watched.

Yes, the truth is a horrible but necessary thing to spread to an unbelieving public.

 

[Bullfighter]

The government of the United States has not, and never will be, based around the Anglo-Saxon. Its stupid to rank the contributions of ethnic groups, but if you have to, give credit to the Scotch-Irish, who settled the frontier, the Germans, the Potato Famine Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the French, the Native Americans, the Africans, and ten thousand other ethnic groups who had contributions just as important.

I could care less about what immigrants claim they did because they wouldn’t have been able to do anything without soldiers first making the land safe for immigrants.

 

[JMJ_coder]

You have read an American History book at one time or another? Our system of government is Anglo Saxon based. If that’s racist to you, than that is racist TO YOU!

As far as attacking me for telling the truth, what is your point. I am for a fair immigration that will allow people from all over the world to get a chance at the American dream. It is the evil who force its way into our country that must be stopped.

I didn’t vote for Obama. I would have prefered a man who is worthy of the Office, Colin Powell.

You didn’t say that our system of government is Anglo-Saxon based. You said:

I believe that the world would agree that they are safer because the United States of America is being run by those of primarily Anglo-Saxon heritage. That is a fact.

I would say, prove it. If it is a fact, it should be easy to prove that the government is primarily run by Anglo-Saxons and not, say, those of Irish, German, Italian, French, African, or other descent.

The basic system of government is indeed heavily derived from the English system, but borrows from other forms, such as the Greek system of government (ever hear of something called democracy and republicanism).

Also, who is the ‘they’ you claim are trying to destroy America, and how are they trying to destroy it.

Also, I didn’t vote for Obama either, but that is irrelevant as he is the next President, whether you like it or not (whether I like it or not).

If that’s racist to you, than that is racist TO YOU!

Your posts read like a KKK pamphlet.

 

[JMJ_coder]

I’m not a native? I’m just an immigrant? I, and my father, and my grandfather should have pointed that out to the draft board when we were being FORCED to defend the stinking country.

Are you of American Indian descent? If not, then your family immigrated at some point to this land.

 

[JMJ_coder]

The Catholic Church played a minor role in the forming of the United States of America. As any non-Catholic loves to point out all the blood on the hands of those Catholics who invaded lands south of the American border and forced Catholicism on the natives there. I am a Catholic and I know the last thing you want to claim about the Catholic Church’s history is that it was all about the poor. It was about conquest.

The Catholic Church owes a great deal to the United States as this is one of the few countries where you can practice any religion you want without government interference. Religions in the US are also tax exempt so why are you complaining about the treatment the religions receive.

Yeah, the missionaries should have just let the Aztecs go on with their pagan rituals?

Did some use un-Christian means to convert the Indians, probably, but that doesn’t wipe clean the good of evangelizing to them and allowing them to convert to the true faith.

As for Catholicism being free in this country, you need to read some more history. Maryland was the first Catholic colony, and the only one that allowed freedom of religion at the time. They invited the Protestants in Virginia to come and settle and they could freely practice their religion. Then, when the Virginians were in the majority, they persecuted the Catholics.

It took most of the 19th century to get some semblance of legal and social protection for Catholics (ever hear of the Know-Nothings), and that is one of the primary reasons why Venerable Michael McGivney founded the Knights of Columbus.

Even today, anti-Catholicism is the last acceptable prejudice.

 

[redhen]

Your posts read like a KKK pamphlet.

These ad hominem attacks are going to get this thread shut down too. How about we agree to change the reference to* Anglo-Saxon* to European?

 

[JMJ_coder]

These ad hominem attacks are going to get this thread shut down too. How about we agree to change the reference to* Anglo-Saxon* to European?

I won’t stand by as a bigot spews bilious venom.

 

[Lujack]

I could care less about what immigrants claim they did because they wouldn’t have been able to do anything without soldiers first making the land safe for immigrants.

First of all, that’s ridiculously racist. Second of all, the soldiers who fought the French were Scotch-Irish, not Anglo-Saxons. Those Scotch-Irish were about half the armies of the Revolution, and pushed just as far westward as the Anglo-Saxons. Andrew Jackson was Scotch-Irish, not Anglo-Saxon. Once they settled down, the Irish and the Germans took over.

Pennsylvania was always Germans. The Dutch settled New York. The Spanish settled the Southwest. The Russians settled Alaska. The French settled Louisiana. The vaunted Anglo-Saxons cleared the coasts.

 

[redhen]

I won’t stand by as a bigot spews bilious venom.

Originally Posted by Bullfighter
I am for a fair immigration that will allow people from all over the world to get a chance at the American dream

This does not seem bigoted to me. Bullfighter is obviously proud of his cultural heritage, and he has every right to be.

 

[Bullfighter]

You didn’t say that our system of government is Anglo-Saxon based. You said:

I would say, prove it. If it is a fact, it should be easy to prove that the government is primarily run by Anglo-Saxons and not, say, those of Irish, German, Italian, French, African, or other descent.

The basic system of government is indeed heavily derived from the English system, but borrows from other forms, such as the Greek system of government (ever hear of something called democracy and republicanism).

Also, who is the ‘they’ you claim are trying to destroy America, and how are they trying to destroy it.

Also, I didn’t vote for Obama either, but that is irrelevant as he is the next President, whether you like it or not (whether I like it or not).

Your posts read like a KKK pamphlet.

If your waiting for me to apologize because I was born white, you’re going to have a long wait.

 

[redhen]

Yes, and the Basques were fishing in the Grand Banks in the 15th century. The Norse had settled in Newfoundland in 1000 AD. This is why I proposed we change all references to *Anglo-Saxon *to European. That would go a long way to defusing this thread before it gets deleted, again.

 

[Bullfighter]

I won’t stand by as a bigot spews bilious venom.

Hey buddy? Before you criticize me, take another look at the laws that those anti Americans forced on that town.

One more thing…I live there!

 

[Bullfighter]

Are you of American Indian descent? If not, then your family immigrated at some point to this land.

There are many anthropologist who will tell you that the Indian is also an immigrant not a native!!

 

[Bullfighter]

Yeah, the missionaries should have just let the Aztecs go on with their pagan rituals?

Did some use un-Christian means to convert the Indians, probably, but that doesn’t wipe clean the good of evangelizing to them and allowing them to convert to the true faith.

As for Catholicism being free in this country, you need to read some more history. Maryland was the first Catholic colony, and the only one that allowed freedom of religion at the time. They invited the Protestants in Virginia to come and settle and they could freely practice their religion. Then, when the Virginians were in the majority, they persecuted the Catholics.

It took most of the 19th century to get some semblance of legal and social protection for Catholics (ever hear of the Know-Nothings), and that is one of the primary reasons why Venerable Michael McGivney founded the Knights of Columbus.

Even today, anti-Catholicism is the last acceptable prejudice.

It is also one of the “Ks” in KKK.

 

[Maui71]

Bullfighter - Interesting that you would pick that name being that bullfighting is a Spanish sport. You should go to Pamplona for the festival of San Fermin.

Now what I don’t understand is how proud you are to be Catholic yet somehow you manage to reconcile the greatest commandment.

Do you know what it is? And how do you reconcile it to your view.

Also, please explain to me, I can’t understand how you can, how you reconcile Matt 25: 41-46 with your supremist view.

44 Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not minister to thee? 45 Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen: I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.

See I don’t see an Anglos-Saxon hill and a Latin American valley in Jesus’ message.

I know, I know, the law states… and they are disobeying or truncating the law… So what should we do about abortion? Wait the law is silent on same sex marriage (or at least that is what that activist group wants you to believe; there is the Implied definition of marriage) so are we disobeying the almighty law or are we following it?

One final question for you; let’s say you all of a sudden had a private revelation. That is Jesus himself appeared before you and said to you what of these Latin Americans what should I do with them?

What would you answer?

What do you think Jesus would say about your answer?

Now my suggestion to you; Go pray in front of the Blessed Sacrament and listen to what Christ tells you.

Peace to you my brother,

M. R. Fernandez

 

[apromisemade]

We had Asian, Middle Eastern and other foreign students in the first semester, but I can guarantee you that the underlying assumption is that only western culture is deserving of criticism.

Those with the most power and influence must be given the most criticism and accountability. “Western culture,” for better or worse, has left its stamp on every corner of the world, thus we must hold ourselves to the highest possible standard and expect criticism from every corner of the world.

 

[redhen]

Those with the most power and influence must be given the most criticism and accountability. “Western culture,” for better or worse, has left its stamp on every corner of the world, thus we must hold ourselves to the highest possible standard and expect criticism from every corner of the world.

Yeah, I guess western culture just sucks. That must be why the rich people in other cultures come to our hospitals when they’re in need. That must be why they send their children to our universities. That must be why they emigrate (flee) to the west when they have the opportunity.

 

[redhen]

Now what I don’t understand is how proud you are to be Catholic yet somehow you manage to reconcile the greatest commandment.

That’s always puzzled me, how can white, Christian supremest groups (not insinuating Bullfighter is one) justify their Christianity? After all, they are supposedly worshiping a Jewish rabbi. Talk about cognitive dissonance!

Charity is all good and fine, but you wouldn’t perform it if it meant your destruction. Facts are, European (white) populations are declining due to the inadequate birth rate. Yet “the world’s total population is projected to increase from it’s current 6 billion to 9 billion by 2054. By this date, 90 percent of the world’s population will be living in underdeveloped countries”

  United Nations Population Division (1999), The World at Six   
  Billion,Department of Economic and Social Affairs, United   
  Nations Secretariat.

So, when the white populations are reduced to near extinction, who is going to feed the starving Africans? The Chinese? The Arabs? The Latinos?