Anti-abortion activist arrested at Notre Dame

[Norminha]

Well, Jesus warned His Apostles when He entrusted them with the mission that They will be persecuted as He himself was persecuted. It is part of our battle in this journey to heaven. At the end, all tears will be wiped off and all suffering will end. Just keep the battle going against evil.
Aren’t we warriors for Jesus? Those who suffer persecution for His sake will receive the crown of victory. Let’s keep praying the Holy Rosary, for strength.
Let those who have ears to hear and those who have eyes, to see.

 

[Disciple96]

I believe this student says it best…

media.www.ndsmcobserver.com/media/storage/paper660/news/2009/04/29/Viewpoint/A.Plane.Banner.Really-3729972.shtml

I can see her point. Until she says this:

The abortion issue deals with several questions at its heart: What is a human life, when does it begin, and how can we know?

The abortion issue is not about what a human life is. It’s about the refusal on the part of a large number of people to see and to accept and admit the truth: abortion is the murder of an innocent human being. The issue is not whether abortion destroys a life, but rather, will we allow this murder and continue to legalize it, or will we stop it?

 

[Ruthie]

Suggestiojn for Rach and the other pro-life students at ND:
How about silently praying the Divine Mercy Chaplet during the speech?

i think all that talk of ‘discourse’ was just rationalization for the people…

It’s the same old same old. When they want to present their ideas, it’s “discourse,” or “tolerance.” When we present ours, it’s “hate speech.”

I’ll continue to pray for the conversion of Obama, and of the unfaithful Catholic politicians.

Eternal Father, I offer you the body and blood, soul and divinity, of Your dearly beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, in atonement for our sins and those of the whole world. For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.

God bless us all,

Ruthie

 

[Lizziebel]

Adding my prayers for all at Notre Dame, and for the conversion of President Obama on the issue of sanctity of life. I also pray for strength for those who are in a position to stand up for the faith and for the sanctity of life.

Eternal Father, I offer you the body and blood, soul and divinity, of Your dearly beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, in atonement for our sins and those of the whole world. For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.

In peace and love,

Elizabeth

 

[cathgal]

First off, Randall Terry and his army are extremists who are desperately trying to turn these seniors’ graduations into a circus. It’s wrong. The students have begged to the public on www.NDResponse.com to leave the protesting to them. There will be student-led, prayerful protests. Bishop D’Arcy echoed their requests, also encouraging third party protestors to stay away from the Notre Dame campus.

Notre Dame’s land is private and a pro-homosexual crusade who drove through the country and stopped by religious schools who did not have an “orientation discrimination clause” in their charters were also arrested on campus last year. In other words, all third party protesters regardless of position are not allowed on the Notre Dame campus…period.

Randall Terry could have taken the money he spent on his prop plane over the ND campus, with his fetus banner hanging out, and given it to Notre Dame Right to Life, or any pro-life group for that matter. It would have gone to a much better use…or at least “a use”.

I believe this student says it best…

media.www.ndsmcobserver.com/media/storage/paper660/news/2009/04/29/Viewpoint/A.Plane.Banner.Really-3729972.shtml

I don’t know about the plane being effective or not, but given that Obama will receive an honary award, what does ND pro-lifer have to say?

Apparently, their presence is not making that much of a difference either.

So yeah, maybe the plane and ND pro-lifers actions are a waste of efforts.

Just strip ‘catholic’ from ND then at least we have something accomplished from pro-lifers.

 

[cathgal]

#2 - The students I know who are involved with protesting the president’s presence at Commencement ruled out this possibility pretty much from the get-go. This is what many students, not only at ND but at other colleges, did to President Bush, and in general I think it is disrespectful. We respect the office of the President, but not the man currently occupying it. We do not wish our actions to be construed as disrespecting the office, even as they are directed at the man.

It is this reason why Fr. Jenkin invited Obama, regardless of what kind of person occupies it.

Seems you’re one with Jenkin and not realize it.

Enjoy his presence at ND

 

[canadianguy1143]

It is this reason why Fr. Jenkin invited Obama, regardless of what kind of person occupies it.

Seems you’re one with Jenkin and not realize it.

Enjoy his presence at ND

Judge not less ye be judged.

 

[canadianguy1143]

Rach620 i appreciate your response, but can not agree. being willing to sit by so you dont look like you are disrespecting the office is weak in my mind. obama is the one who has disrespected the office.

the standing invitation to presidents to speak at commencement was rescinded for Clinton, and it should be rescinded now. until he recants his support for goverment sanctioned murder there is no protest too loud. make them see and hear what they do. i agree that pray is needed too, and was already aware of your link, but is good that you included it.

Emphasis mine

Its my understanding that Clinton declined the invitation, not that Notre Dame rescinded it.

 

[Rach620]

It is this reason why Fr. Jenkin invited Obama, regardless of what kind of person occupies it.

Seems you’re one with Jenkin and not realize it.

Enjoy his presence at ND

Not so fast.

Fr. Jenkins believes we can honor the man without honoring one particular position he holds. That respect for the office of the President necessitates respect (and honor) for the one who occupies it.

I do not at all agree. We cannot honor the man who occupies the office with an honorary degree, as ND is, without also honoring the policies he supports. We can, however, show our respect for the office of the President without honoring the person who holds that office.

 

[Rach620]

Emphasis mine

Its my understanding that Clinton declined the invitation, not that Notre Dame rescinded it.

I believe you are correct, canadianguy.

 

[cathgal]

Judge not less ye be judged.

So tell me, why was Obama invited…the office or the man?

 

[cathgal]

Not so fast.

Fr. Jenkins believes we can honor the man without honoring one particular position he holds. That respect for the office of the President necessitates respect (and honor) for the one who occupies it.

Is there no more people worthy of honoring than Obama? What initiates the invitation??

By respecting the office above all else, Jenkins does not care who occupies it. I don’t care for his irrational reason.

I do not at all agree. We cannot honor the man who occupies the office with an honorary degree, as ND is, without also honoring the policies he supports. We can, however, show our respect for the office of the President without honoring the person who holds that office.

You mean no protest when he comes? How would someone know that you’re NOT honoring him?

 

[Rach620]

Is there no more people worthy of honoring than Obama? What initiates the invitation??

There are certainly people more worthy of honor than Obama–Mary Ann Glendon, for one. It is incredibly sad and dismaying that the honor she deserved was supplanted by this invite.

A University committee presents Fr. Jenkins with a list of potential Commencement speakers; invitations are extended. It is up to the President to accept, and in this case, Obama did. My bet is that everyone in the admin was probably astonished that he did. I see it as an extremely political move on the part of the President, and the University as a willing accomplice.

You mean no protest when he comes? How would someone know that you’re NOT honoring him?

There will be protests when he comes. Visit here to read what students are planning. Their protests just will not involve turning their backs on the president, speaking over him, etc.

Pro-life graduates themselves are torn as to what they will do on commencement day. Some will attend that alternative ceremony, others will attend their commencement. They will be wearing a special symbol to signify that they oppose honoring Obama, and will not offer standing ovations, etc. to the President.

 

[Cathhsmom]

I have been in a similar situation. The military put my dh through grad school. Clinton was the commencement speaker for graduation. (Secular university, not Catholic or military) Now, I wanted to not go because I wanted to be no where near him, but my dh didn’t have that choice since he is military. So, for him, I went. But, when Clinton got up to speak, I did not stand up for him. I turned around in my seat and faced the other direction. I thought that was the most respectful way of showing that I did not want to be there.

 

[canadianguy1143]

So tell me, why was Obama invited…the office or the man?

Obama was invited because of the “man”. I think we are in agreement regarding “Father” Jenkins, but you went too far in saying that Rach620 comments were in accord with Father Jenkins.