"Anti-Bullying" campaign clever ruse for "gay" agenda attack on Christians

[TEPO]

Given that I have not seen a transcript of the speech or extensive quotes from it, I’m not sure I can judge it. However, if his point was that the Bible inspires intolerance toward gay people that fosters an environment in which they are likely to be bullied, I think he is correct.

As Christians, we are not required to inspire tolerance towards homosexuality…

We use the Cardinal rules of prudence, justice, temperance and courage. Tolerance is a term the relativists use -an ideal of its own.

 

[TEPO]

Please explain to me, in your own words, what exactly is homophobia? Indeed, I know the semantics of the word, but I’m getting awfully sick of hearing people, predominately liberals, use it as a way to insult anyone who does not support homosexual activism. One hundred percent of the time they use the word incorrectly.

I assure you, I do not fear anything about homosexuality. I disapprove of it and find it to be wholly repulsive. I also have the same outlook on things such as pedophilia, broccoli, and some types of cats. I however do not fear any one of those things. I have no fear of pedophiles, broccoli, or cats. In fact, I do eat broccoli from time to time as disgusting as I find it, and I have taken care of my grandma’s cats many times when she goes on vacation (as disgusting as I find them), and quite compassionately if I do say so myself. Never once, when encountering any of these things, including gay people, whom I surrounded by on a regular basis at college, have I had even the slightest shred, twitch, or inkling of fear.

Not liking something is not the same as being afraid of it. Disapproving something is not the same as being afraid of it. Finding something gross is not the same as being afraid of it.

I swear, the next time I hear somebody call me a homophobe for not supporting gay marriage, I might lose it.

Aah,aah aah… Temperance is a virtue. :tsktsk::tsktsk:

(just teasing).

 

[TEPO]

Found it! Comparing pedophile to homosexuality is homophobic. Comparing broccoli to pedophilia is just, well…intriguing.

While i understand that both are clearly sin (homophobia and homosexuality) the two acts are as different as premarital sex and rape. While sin in ofitself is repulsive, surely you will agree that some sin is more repulsive than others. For example telling one’s mother to shut up is awful but its not as bad as killing one’s mother

I disagree in part. A pedophile who lives a chaste life is better than a homosexual who acts out with no remorse… Just say’n.

 

[Julia_Mae]

I disagree in part. A pedophile who lives a chaste life is better than a homosexual who acts out with no remorse… Just say’n.

A pedophile who lives a chaste life is a contradiction in terms. By definition, a pedophile is one who uses, or has used, a child for sexual gratification. Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation, it’s a mental disorder with no known treatment modality at this time, as far as I know.

Homosexuality is not.

Only God gets to judge who is “better” or “worse.”

 

[mitex]

Any bullying is wrong period. “Love thy neighbor.” Protecting kids is not agenda.

 

[TEPO]

A pedophile who lives a chaste life is a contradiction in terms. By definition, a pedophile is one who uses, or has used, a child for sexual gratification. Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation, it’s a mental disorder with no known treatment modality at this time, as far as I know.

Homosexuality is not.

Only God gets to judge who is “better” or “worse.”

Not true, a pedophile is one who has a disorder of sexual preference towards children… A child molester is one who has sexually abused a child, however some child molesters are not true pedophiles. Other motives for the child molester might be “stress, marital problems, or the unavailability of an adult partner.”… en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophile

In any case, I still stand by my post… A chaste pedophile is less sinful (better) than an active non-remorseful homosexual.

 

[TEPO]

Any bullying is wrong period. “Love thy neighbor.” Protecting kids is not agenda.

What about bullying a pedophile…?

 

[mitex]

What about bullying a pedophile…?

Everyone has inherint human dignity that needs to be respected. The Catechism says “They must be accepted with compassion, respect, and sensitivity.” At least for homosexuals.

Bullying anyone is wrong period. Including pedophiles.

 

[mitex]

What about bullying a pedophile…?

Matter of fact bullying or harassing pedophiles is against the law. If you use a sex offender database with the intention of harming or harassing a pedophile you get arrested.

You get arrested for harassing anyone in general.

 

[Julia_Mae]

Not true, a pedophile is one who has a disorder of sexual preference towards children…

No, it really is not. Most pedophiles are heterosexual males. Pedophilia is a diagnosable mental disorder, not a sexual orientation. Homosexuality is not a mental disorder.

A child molester is one who has sexually abused a child, however some child molesters are not true pedophiles.

I have no idea why you believe this, but it is, by definition, legal and medical, not correct. All who sexually molest children are pedophiles. One might keep himself under control and show his true nature with stress, that doesn’t make him not a pedophile. How long would you have to be “without a partner” before you found a 12 year old or younger enticing? How much stress would there have to be?

In any case, I still stand by my post… A chaste pedophile is less sinful (better) than an active non-remorseful homosexual.

And I stand by mine, neither you nor anyone else gets to judge this.

 

[Scott_Waddell]

Any bullying is wrong period. “Love thy neighbor.” Protecting kids is not agenda.

Well, yes it can be. We hear people justifying all manner of wickedness under the rubric of “think of the children!” I recall the case of Brenden Wagner (sp?). He is a high school student in Wisconsin and his school newspaper asked him to write the “con” side in pro/con article about same sex marriage. He got hauled before the assistant principal and was berated and threatened for hours on end. When you look at these anti-bullying campaigns, it is clear that Brenden’s experience is not the kind of bullying these guys are interested in fighting. Anti-bullying is code, and not very deep code at that, for homosexual normalization.

Some of you may recall like I do the height of Politcal Correctness in the '90’s. There we watched as college campuses across the country capitulated to ludicrous harrasment policies that included things like the accused not being able to confront accusers or even know the full nature of the charge against him. Well, high school and elementary school was always a little harder to crack. Sure, plenty of moonbattery has invaded here, but since parents were usually alot closer to and personally involved in the schools, they could always rally the troops when things got out of hand. Anti-bullying provides progressives with the Trojan horse they have always been looking for. Bullying is largely unsolvable by programs because not only does it take place out of sight of adult authority, but also because of the unwritten yet intractable no-squealing code among youth. But that makes it perfect because there is no end to the intrusions into schools with ideological social engineering to be had in the name of fighting it.

 

[RobbyS]

This is the same guy who got people to flood the search results algorithms on google with a less than savory suggestion for the meaning of the word Santorum (i.e. Rick Santorum).

He’s a bully. He’s clearly been a bully for many years, too.

Gays activists are insane on the issue. They simply have no tolerance for opposition, and it is not helped because, so far, because the Church seems to be holding back.

 

[TEPO]

No, it really is not. Most pedophiles are heterosexual males. Pedophilia is a diagnosable mental disorder, not a sexual orientation. Homosexuality is not a mental disorder.

Is a mental disorder worse than a sexual orientation?

I have no idea why you believe this, but it is, by definition, legal and medical, not correct. All who sexually molest children are pedophiles. One might keep himself under control and show his true nature with stress, that doesn’t make him not a pedophile. How long would you have to be “without a partner” before you found a 12 year old or younger enticing? How much stress would there have to be?

I’m just telling you what I’ve read, I’m not making it up. I’ve already given you the link to where I got my information.

And I stand by mine, neither you nor anyone else gets to judge this.

I always judge whether a sin is a sin… I don’t judge people though.

 

[mitex]

Gays activists are insane on the issue. They simply have no tolerance for opposition, and it is not helped because, so far, because the Church seems to be holding back.

Not every gay is an angry activist.

 

[Scott_Waddell]

Not every gay is an angry activist.

No they aren’t, but there is little comfort to be had in that. We have to remember that much of the onslaught to normalize homosexuality comes not necessarily from practicing homosexuals, but by all kinds of people who have been suckered by the Therapeutic Culture of Death. And nothing screams therapeutic culture like the recent “anti-bullying” campaingns. Allow me to recommend this article: leaderu.com/ftissues/ft9902/articles/kilpatrick.html

It is important for people of faith to keep in mind that there can be no real compromise between Christianity and the psychological society. Rieff in a 1991 essay insists that the therapeutic culture is at war with traditional culture and aims to destroy it. This seems overblown at first. If the therapeutic culture is our enemy, it appears rather a tame one. After all, it speaks the language of compassion, sensitivity, and tolerance. But any culture that has no use for truth is ultimately a dangerous culture. If there is no meaning outside the self, there is no meaning. And if there is no meaning, there is no morality. As Dostoevsky famously warned, without God everything is permissible—and the therapeutic culture has no God. It is well on the way to dismantling the moral structure of society through semi–sincere appeals to tolerance, compassion, and diversity. There is no reason to think it will put limits on what is morally permissible. There is, in the end, not a dime’s worth of difference between the nihilism of the therapeutic culture and the nihilism of a Nietzsche—except that the therapeutic culture lacks Nietzsche’s sense of the tragic nature of life.

The twentieth century has seen many attacks on Christianity, but the frontal attacks of militant atheists, Marxists, and Nazis have not resulted in as much lost ground for Christians as the more insidious attacks of the therapeutic culture. The sense of guilt, the sense of sin, the sense of the sacred, the sense that there is another order of authority by which we are judged—these have not disappeared entirely from Christian culture, but they have been eroded. If this is difficult to see, it is because of the fog that the culture of therapy emits—an empathic fog which surrounds us and confuses us and prevents us from seeing life clearly. We wander around in this fog thinking our enemy is our friend because he is so exquisitely concerned with our health.

The only thing powerful enough to cut through this fog is the light of revelation. Revelation reminds us that physical and emotional health is not the Alpha and Omega of existence. The Gospels tell us that if our hand offends us we should cut it off, it being better to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into Hell. Likewise, it may be better to enter the kingdom of Heaven with a repressed psyche than to enter the other place brimming with self–assertiveness. There is no ultimate consolation to be found in the theories propounded by psychologists. Psychology has very little to say to the majority of suffering people in this world, and absolutely nothing to say to the fact that all of us must one day die. The therapeutic culture’s well–adjusted person, for all his serene sense of self, has one overwhelming problem: he is blinded to the beatific vision.

 

[mitex]

No they aren’t, but there is little comfort to be had in that. We have to remember that much of the onslaught to normalize homosexuality comes not necessarily from practicing homosexuals, but by all kinds of people who have been suckered by the Therapeutic Culture of Death. And nothing screams therapeutic culture like the recent “anti-bullying” campaingns. Allow me to recommend this article: leaderu.com/ftissues/ft9902/articles/kilpatrick.html

So according to you its okay to socially isolate and stigmatize gay people?

 

[Farsight001]

So according to you its okay to socially isolate and stigmatize gay people?

I don’t think anyone said that.

 

[Holly3278]

I read about this the other day. It seems rather hypocritical that this guy who was supposedly speaking against bullying chose to bully Christians.

 

[mitex]

I don’t think anyone said that.

If you want to be opposed to homosexual acts and gay marriage that’s fine. But you need to accept homosexual people for who they are as a person and that includes a homosexual orientation.

Because saying that all homosexual people need to go to therapy to change is not impossible but unrealistic.

The simplest way is to just accept the homosexual orientation.

 

[Farsight001]

If you want to be opposed to homosexual acts and gay marriage that’s fine. But you need to accept homosexual people for who they are as a person and that includes a homosexual orientation.

Because saying that all homosexual people need to go to therapy to change is not impossible but unrealistic.

The simplest way is to just accept the homosexual orientation.

Once again, no one said otherwise, so who are you talking to?