Anti-Catholic media on historical consummation of marriages

[Giggly_Giraffe]

So, before re-verting, I read some bad catholic media like the book, The Family by Mario Puzo and the 2006 movie “Marie Antonette”. Both of these lead the consumers to believe that Popes and others had to witness the consummation of a royal marriage to be valid; vs a Nuptual Mass. I do not have much historical grounding, but these anti-catholic media’s have made me curious about this in the past.

 

[dmar198]

So, before re-verting, I read some bad catholic media like the book, The Family by Mario Puzo and the 2006 movie “Marie Antonette”. Both of these lead the consumers to believe that Popes and others had to witness the consummation of a royal marriage to be valid; vs a Nuptual Mass. I do not have much historical grounding, but these anti-catholic media’s have made me curious about this in the past.

Because the idea sounds so absurd, I think our default response to such claims should be to not believe it unless evidence is provided. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. So, if someone says the popes had to witness a couple’s sexual act in order for their marriage to be valid, ask them for proof, and don’t believe it until they produce it, because they are making an extraordinary claim with no evidence to back it up. Does that sound reasonable?

 

[CatholicWhovian]

So, before re-verting, I read some bad catholic media like the book, The Family by Mario Puzo and the 2006 movie “Marie Antonette”. Both of these lead the consumers to believe that Popes and others had to witness the consummation of a royal marriage to be valid; vs a Nuptual Mass. I do not have much historical grounding, but these anti-catholic media’s have made me curious about this in the past.

I think calling them “anti-Catholic” is a bit too much and an overgeneralization since you’re basing you thoughts on one scene from a movie or a book and applying your assumptions to the rest of the film.

I’ve watched Marie Antoinette, and personally I love the film. Remembering the scene, it does show the archbishop and the court of Versailles in the bed chamber of the newlyweds. But afterwards the go out once the curtains of their bed were closed. If by “consummated” you mean actual sex, then they didn’t witness it. And besides I don’t see anything anti-Catholic in the scene. About its historical accuracy however… that we can look and judge into.