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But this hasn’t happened yet though? I can think of some lowsy ones.
Yes, there have been Antipopes. And they were Antichrists. Just like how there has been Hitler, Napolean, and Stalin, all Antichrists. But…not the GREAT Antichrist, who will be worse than anything we have ever seen.

Hitler was anti-Catholic because we were anti-eugenics, Stalin because we were authority other than the Government. So they persecuted us. But the Antichrist will be anticatholic ONLY because he has a SATANIC hatred of Christ and his people.

Same with Antipopes. Antipopes of past have wanted fame, attention, political influence. But the FINAL Antipope(NOT the Final Pope, the final ANTIpope), will JUST have a satanic hatred of Catholic Truth and do everything to blaspheme and desecrate it. False worship, false priests, false bishops, false theology. Ect.
 
Yes, there have been Antipopes. And they were Antichrists. Just like how there has been Hitler, Napolean, and Stalin, all Antichrists. But…not the GREAT Antichrist, who will be worse than anything we have ever seen.

Hitler was anti-Catholic because we were anti-eugenics, Stalin because we were authority other than the Government. So they persecuted us. But the Antichrist will be anticatholic ONLY because he has a SATANIC hatred of Christ and his people.

Same with Antipopes. Antipopes of past have wanted fame, attention, political influence. But the FINAL Antipope(NOT the Final Pope, the final ANTIpope), will JUST have a satanic hatred of Catholic Truth and do everything to blaspheme and desecrate it. False worship, false priests, false bishops, false theology. Ect.
Do the names Innocent VIII and Alexander VI mean anything ? :eek:
 
I have no idea what you’re talking about. The Latin Vulgate of St. Jerome which was the basis of the Douay-Rheims is a much better translation of the OT than the Masoretic Text I presume is used by Chabad.
I do like the DR and the RSV-CE and look at the t’noch and KJV. For example Is 14:12 a well known of many examples. It’s talking about the King of Babylon. They stuck LuXiFer in there. What’s that? He not was but IS an angel called that. But whatever they were reading they sure didn’t understand what it was really saying. Now Samyaza. He was an angel and has become a lower form of life. They came to the Earth and “Saw the daughters of men” and taught man many things. Lucifer’s mistake was he thought he could manage his own “improvement” in man. It was I suppose well intended. But an interference in God’s plan. But we fell flat on our faces. His tampering created ambition in man. Possibly in that manner a connection with the king of Babylon. He is still working to correct his errors.

The thing is it’s so easy to even unintentionally alter things. I suppose it’s not that big a deal if you will seek this things you will be filled.

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I do like the DR and the RSV-CE and look at the t’noch and KJV. For example Is 14:12 a well known of many examples. It’s talking about the King of Babylon. They stuck LuXiFer in there. What’s that?
From Challoner’s revisions of the DR. Isa. 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, who didst rise in the morning? how art thou fallen to the earth, that didst wound the nations?

O Lucifer: O day star. All this, according to the letter, is spoken of the King of Babylon. It may also be applied, in a spiritual sense, to Lucifer the prince of devils, who was created a bright angel, but fell by pride and rebellion against God.

It can also be applied to any man with temporal power who tries to set himself above God, whether in the past, the present o r the future.

Original DR isn’t much different but it was easier to cut and past Challoner.
 
Here is what I believe the Bible states about the anti-christ: probably not a popular view but one that is biblical and well supported by scripture.
The Anti-christ is just one of 32 titles in the Bible of a real person who becomes an evil world leader in the last days. In the Bible, he has 32 titles, and there are several passages that describe this world leader such as he is an great orator, and economic genius, and so on. In the Bible, some names are the Man of Sin, Son of Perdition, the Evil Man, the Idol Shepard, the Lawless One, the coming world leader, the “prince that shall come”, and many others which I am sure you can google to get an exhaustive list as well as where they are referenced in the Bible. Jesus Himself spoke of him as one would “come in his own name” and who would be “received” by Israel in John 5:43.

Many think he is alive today, have identified people who fit his description, but this is just hearsay and silly guesses.

In Dan 9”25-27, the anti-christ (“prince that shall come” is a descendant of the people who destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD (Titus Vespasian) and he will “enforce’ a treaty between Israel and some federation of countries (“the many”). This is commonly known as the start of seven year period or Daniel’s 70th week. After 3-1/2 years the anti-christ will commit the “Abomination of Desolation” in the holy of holies of the Jewish people that Jesus Himself identifies in Math 24 and Jesus tells the Jewish people that when they see this event happen to flee and flee now, and a remnant flee Jerusalem into the “wilderness” (documented in several old testament passages). The Abomination of Desolation is an event that occurred once before in the Jewish temple about 150 years before Jesus showed up and triggers the Great Tribulation period that lasts exactly 3-1/2, years, 1260 days, 42 months, or a time, times, and one-half time. (stated in Dan 12:7, Rev 12:14, Dan 7:35). The Great Tribulation is also defined in Jeremiah 30:3-7 as “time of Jacob’s trouble” and note that Jacob = Israel (Gen 32:28). Jesus, Himself, identifies the Great Tribulation Matt 24:15-22. In 2 Th 2:4 the antichrist sets himself up as God in the Jewish “Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.”

The anti-Christ, “son of perdition” is revealed after the Church is taken out (2 Th 2:1). In Th 2:3-4, “ Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;” Thessalonians goes on to tell us that when church goes, the Holy Spirit who indwells the church and restrains evil will be taken out of the way. 2 Th 2:7 “ goes too and all evil will be released on earth. 2 Th 2:6 – 2:8, “ And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:”

At this point, the man of sin will have Satan powers, 2 Th 2:9, “ Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders… “ and then God will send those on earth a lie that most will believe, 2 Th 2:11, “And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”

The tribulation is judgment on Israel and at the end the seven things the angel Gabriel told Daniel will be complete. Revelation 6 – 19 is the details of the “Great Tribulation” to be inflicted on those not removed from God’s judgment. In the end, the Jewish remnant of Israel must repent and ask Jesus to return and then He will. Math 23:39 among other scriptures: “ For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.” Jesus returns and wipes out the enemy as his robe is dipped in blood completing the Isaiah 61 if you remember where Jesus read the scroll of Isaiah in Luke 4:17 and Jesus just happen leave out ‘the day of vengeance of the Lord”. That day has now come.
 
From Challoner’s revisions of the DR. Isa. 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, who didst rise in the morning? how art thou fallen to the earth, that didst wound the nations?

O Lucifer: O day star. All this, according to the letter, is spoken of the King of Babylon. It may also be applied, in a spiritual sense, to Lucifer the prince of devils, who was created a bright angel, but fell by pride and rebellion against God.

It can also be applied to any man with temporal power who tries to set himself above God, whether in the past, the present o r the future.

Original DR isn’t much different but it was easier to cut and past Challoner.
Then I would guess it appeared in the Vulgate by Jerome; under Damasus III.
 
Anyone read “Lord of the World”?

By Monsignor Robert Hugh Benson?
 
This may help you out with this discussion.

Jimmy Akin - Who or what is the anti-Christ?
I have heard what he said before. The number of Christ 999 is like the number of “beast” 666. So it’s basically the same thing only depending on how you view it. It’s probably more a “spirit” than anything else. I guess I would probably have to agree with the Church fathers. Well I guess I am still one that believes God is in control. 👍
 
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