Anti-marriage!

[Ransri]

huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/05/the-growing-movement-agai_n_90039.html?

 

[joeybaggz]

A couple of observations;.

One, for a good and sacred marriage to exist, the two people involved must have the capability to truly love another in a healthy way. The four women cited make me wonder that if, given the money, secular status, and lifestyle choices they’ve made, they have the ability to do just that. Marriage is for those who have the capability to put themselves into the care of another in a loving spirit of trust and respect. To make the hopes, dreams, and ambitions of the partner as important as their own. Money, fame, and a puffed up ego marinated with millions of dollars and the public adulation of a secular nature, might just stifle that ability.

Duh … ya think?

Two. I love the statistic cited; 40 percent of first marriages and 70 percent of second marriages fail. I wonder what the percentage of fourth marriages is. Reminds me of the old saw, "if you are getting divorced for the sixth time, it just might be YOU.

My two cents.

 

[adamhovey1988]

A couple of observations;.

One, for a good and sacred marriage to exist, the two people involved must have the capability to truly love another in a healthy way. The four women cited make me wonder that if, given the money, secular status, and lifestyle choices they’ve made, they have the ability to do just that. Marriage is for those who have the capability to put themselves into the care of another in a loving spirit of trust and respect. To make the hopes, dreams, and ambitions of the partner as important as their own. Money, fame, and a puffed up ego marinated with millions of dollars and the public adulation of a secular nature, might just stifle that ability.

Duh … ya think?

Two. I love the statistic cited; 40 percent of first marriages and 70 percent of second marriages fail. I wonder what the percentage of fourth marriages is. Reminds me of the old saw, "if you are getting divorced for the sixth time, it just might be YOU.

My two cents.

My biological father’s 4th marriage was my mother…they were together until he died. THAT said, I think were he Catholic, those would have in all likelihood been declared invalid.

 

[joeybaggz]

My biological father’s 4th marriage was my mother…they were together until he died. THAT said, I think were he Catholic, those would have in all likelihood been declared invalid.

Thank you for the observation. In honesty, in the post, I was thinking more of the Hollywood crowd that gets married for the third, fourth, fifth, etc. time.

Shalom

 

[mikeeh]

huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/05/the-growing-movement-agai_n_90039.html?

The article is more opinion than fact. It claims that feminism is the reason why marriage is on the decline. While that is somewhat true, they are many factors that have led to the decline of marriage. The main reason is that young people are postponing marriage for other life endeavors, but often never get around to actually getting married. For those who are interested it has become difficult to find partners. Women earn more degrees than men. And with that more women are getting nice well-paying office jobs. When it’s time to look for a husband they find that most of the men are less educated and less established, putting a damper on finding an ideal husband. Divorcing these days is no easy task. More people would probably just avoid marriage altogether than risk going through a bitter divorce. Gay marriage also contributes to the decline because it lessens the value of marriage making more heterosexual couples less likely to view marriage as a unique experience.

In the past, marriage was something one did en route to adulthood. These days it often comes after one’s got the house and the car, when the job is going well, when you’ve had the baby, as the sign to those around you that you’ve made it. People aspire to and idealise marriage, only wanting to do it when all the pieces have fallen into place and everything’s perfect - and because of this, marriage has become identified with the wedding.

 

[kozlosap]

The article is more opinion than fact. It claims that feminism is the reason why marriage is on the decline. While that is somewhat true, they are many factors that have led to the decline of marriage. The main reason is that young people are postponing marriage for other life endeavors, but often never get around to actually getting married. For those who are interested it has become difficult to find partners. Women earn more degrees than men. And with that more women are getting nice well-paying office jobs. When it’s time to look for a husband they find that most of the men are less educated and less established, putting a damper on finding an ideal husband. Divorcing these days is no easy task. More people would probably just avoid marriage altogether than risk going through a bitter divorce. Gay marriage also contributes to the decline because it lessens the value of marriage making more heterosexual couples less likely to view marriage as a unique experience.

In the past, marriage was something one did en route to adulthood. These days it often comes after one’s got the house and the car, when the job is going well, when you’ve had the baby, as the sign to those around you that you’ve made it. People aspire to and idealise marriage, only wanting to do it when all the pieces have fallen into place and everything’s perfect - and because of this, marriage has become identified with the wedding.

I must have been hiding under a large rock for the last 63.11 years, because I was taught that when the majority of a population takes part in a social construct, such as marriage, then it would not be considered unique. Of course, stepping on another persons happiness always make ourselves feel superior.

 

[mikeeh]

I must have been hiding under a large rock for the last 63.11 years, because I was taught that when the majority of a population takes part in a social construct, such as marriage, then it would not be considered unique. Of course, stepping on another persons happiness always make ourselves feel superior.

I’d be careful with calling marriage a social construct. I think that’s another problem. Society has convinced people marriage is a social construct instead of a divine construct. They try to convince the people it is a social construct so they can redefine it. And the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony is certainly not a social construct.

 

[Sarcelle]

I’d be careful with calling marriage a social construct. I think that’s another problem. Society has convinced people marriage is a social construct instead of a divine construct. They try to convince the people it is a social construct so they can redefine it. And the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony is certainly not a social construct.

The idea of the holy is a totally alien idea in this secular world.

To the secular majority, marriage is nothing more than a social construct.

 

[HelenRose]

My biological father’s 4th marriage was my mother…they were together until he died. THAT said, I think were he Catholic, those would have in all likelihood been declared invalid.

My father (born in 1899) had four wives as well. He wasn’t a Catholic but in his own way he was good man who cared for children and animals. My mother was is third wife. What she said about him was, “I knew what he was when I married him and have never regretted it. He gave me adventure and four wonderful children.”

I expect that he will have a long time in purgatory but I think that God will enjoy his stories because he was a fantastic story teller. I knew what he was too and I appreciated my mother for not being bitter, for her forgiveness, for her sense of humor and honesty.

 

[OrdinaryMelkite]

I’m old enough to remember the Phil Donahue show, and he would occasionally talk about when he had on Margaret Mead and she would push for “trial marriages,” as sort of being the next trend of the future.

Is that really what is coming up next, I wonder?

God in Heaven, let it be not so.

 

[Rau]

I must have been hiding under a large rock for the last 63.11 years, because I was taught that when the majority of a population takes part in a social construct, such as marriage, then it would not be considered unique. Of course, stepping on another persons happiness always make ourselves feel superior.

I wonder who taught you that?

Marriage is a unique relationship. It is the sexual relationship through which two people build a family and thus build up society. And if you accept the religious dimension - it is the opportunity to co-create with God.

 

[vz71]

I noted in the article their professed idea for what marriage is -and their reason to avoid it- is not at all what a marriage is.

Perhaps it best they avoid it.
Without an understanding of marriage, how would they have a good one?

 

[Sarcelle]

I’d be careful with calling marriage a social construct. I think that’s another problem. Society has convinced people marriage is a social construct instead of a divine construct. They try to convince the people it is a social construct so they can redefine it. And the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony is certainly not a social construct.

Good luck trying to convince atheists about the concept of the Divine.

It would literally be a miracle if you could.