In a sense I could agree. But the dimensions in which TEC/ACC are leaping boldly beyond boundaries is not the same as the dimensions in which the historic spectrum of Anglicanism has always differed, under a general umbrella of mere Christianity. They are leaping boldly into a brave new world.Oh come now, we do have *some *boundaries
Seriously, we do. I would argue TEC and the ACC has long exceeded those boundaries, for example.
And I modify your position, to the correct one.Iâd disagree and say theyâre still within the boundaries by way of response.
That said, I wouldnât expect you to agree. If the ACNA did it wouldnât exist.
The majority of the communion doesnât agree.Iâd disagree and say theyâre still within the boundaries by way of response.
Not true at all. Most of the churches that make up ACNA were never Episcopalian.That said, I wouldnât expect you to agree. If the ACNA did it wouldnât exist
I normally experience the 1928 service. Modified occasionally with excerpts from the Anglican Missal, use of something like the 49 or 62 books, on historic occasions, on a bit of Sarum. Minor propers (occasionally in Latin, years back), some other useful things. Not to mention a spoken Angelus after some services.
True the churches that make up the ACNA werenât all ECUSA. But the ACNA as we know it today wouldnât exist except for the recent divisions after Bishop Robinson.
Nothing Unitarian about it. Liturgically or Theologically.
Their liturgy is the least of my problems.
BIG Decision:shrug:
Perhaps. At least, in as much as it caused churches to begin to split from TEC, which necessitated the formation of a governing church body for them to go to.
By sheer numbers of those in the communion, is what I meant. Canada, South Africa and Europe are significant only by currency. There are more Anglicans in church in one province of East Africa than in all of Western Europe on any given Sunday.
Bear in mind I refer here to the majority of leadership within TEC, not to any given local parish or clergy. I know many faithful Episcopalian laymen and ministers.
One of those subsumed under the title of the Anglican Continuum.
I see you are fairly new around here. Thanks for joining the conversation.
Thanks Patrick. I will ask we stay on the original topic. While I appreciate your thoughts, they will naturally degrade (imo) into an theological debate as to which is âmore rightâ. I started the thread just to prevent that degradation. Kind of amazed it made it to 14 pages without!BIG Decision:shrug:
So allow me to ask you a couple of questions to consider:
How many different setâs Faith-beliefs did God [Yahweh or Jesus] have?
Is there even ONE example of God, ever indicating His approval of ANY faith beliefs other than the One set of beliefs that they taught?
Can GOD hold differing positions of the same defined issues, even contradictory ones?
What would Jesus Tell you to do?
WHY do you suppose God & the Bible teach explicitly, precisely, exclusively
One True God
One [and only one] True sets of Faith beliefs
In and though One Chosen people / One Chosen Church
ALL of which is biblically provable
So WHOâs in charge of your Eternity?
God Bless you!
Patrick
My conversion was a lot like the late Bl. Newman. It wasnât any recent decision that convinced me. I just studied the ancient Church, and the nature of heresy. I then realized that the original Church was still intact through the Catholic Church in union with the Roman Pontiff in the Chair of St. Peter. I also realized that Henryâs break from the Catholic Church was just another domino of heresy that started with him and led the Anglican âcommunionâ to where it is today. Continuing Anglicanism is just reinventing the Protestant Wheel. You disagree with something, you split. At some point, there needs to be authority in the Church, and you find that authority means very little in Anglicanism as it stands today.
And what of the English Church before that, when Rome barely knew it existed and was using a Syrian liturgy?
I donât mean to come across as rude here but if you think Anglican ecclesiology has anything to do with Henry, I can only take you so seriously as a student of Anglican history and/or theology.
If earthly church authority is your epistemic starting point then yes, you would do well to be a Latin Catholic.
Anglican Catholic Church, Anglican Province of Christ the King, United Episcopal Church of North America, Anglican Church in America, Anglican Province of America.
Thanks for participating. I liked your blog post on a year of Benedictine Discernment. I hope it is going well for you.
