Any Born atheists that are now Christians?

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A claim I have heard from some atheists that if you are not indoctrinated into religion as a child, you will not believe it later in your life? Is this true? I can’t think of any famous Christians that where born atheists. C.S. Lewis was raised a Christian, then became an atheist before he came back to Christianity.

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A claim I have heard from some atheists that if you are not indoctrinated into religion as a child, you will not believe it later in your life? Is this true? I can’t think of any famous Christians that where born atheists. C.S. Lewis was raised a Christian, then became an atheist before he came back to Christianity.

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I wouldn’t call him famous, but this guy disproves the athiest saying. youtube.com/user/shockofgod

Hes an Evangelical, but it proves my point.
 
G.K. Chesterton was born into the Church of England and became an atheist or agnostic at at a young age and eventually made his way to the church
 
We are all “atheists” who become Christian or whatever. Or did anyone here come up with the idea of God on their own, not to mention Catholicism? Hmmmmm… Trying to remember when the notion of “God” first entered my mind…and how…
 
A claim I have heard from some atheists that if you are not indoctrinated into religion as a child, you will not believe it later in your life? Is this true? I can’t think of any famous Christians that where born atheists. C.S. Lewis was raised a Christian, then became an atheist before he came back to Christianity.

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It’s a good point. Atheism seems to be an process of deliberate reason, either intellectual or emotional or both. I had religiously apathetic parents who were neither hot nor cold about religion. It was just there, (or not there depending on perspective). This was common in baby boomer homes in the U.S. We didn’t go to Church. Discuss religion etc… Nor did we discuss or get taught atheism. Now, with this upbringing, you could go either way. I myself was a seeker. Odd for my family. They are all the “content” types who probably don’t think about it at all. While still a pre-teen I volunteered at the Church of Scientology in exchange for auditing. I moved on from that pretty quickly. Seemed to be about cash. I had older friends who of the intellectual stripe who got me into objectivism, and Ayn Rand. Very cold stuff. Didn’t do much for me, but to stay with a peer group, I read her books and discussed them. I then discovered dreaming and the way of seeing taught by Don Juan Matus through Carlos Castaneda, and almost simultaneously, the astral traveling escapades of T. Lobsang Rampa and the Third Eye series. My fascination with Castaneda waned. My interest in Rampa did too, but not before instilling a strong tug in me towards Buddhism. I searched and practiced Buddhism in one form or another until Intellectualism and Rand reared their ugly heads again for a couple of years while rekindling an old friendship. Since Buddhism had made the existence of a God optional, as had Castaneda, I was pretty willing to pull God out of the equation all together this time. My brush with atheism was thankfully short lived. I could see the attraction of ascribing so much power to man, but it didn’t feel genuine to me. I felt puffed up with the exclusivity of being with my “deep” freinds. But in the end, I went back to my meditations and chants, and disavowed greed and egoism again. I became full throttle Buddhist. I discovered the Pure Land forms, and was particularly enamored with Shin Buddhism, and even more precisely, Jodo Shinshu. Steady, peaceful comfort. The intellectualism that I loved in conversation, and spiritualism that I felt a natural craving for, all rolled into one. I took vows with an Abbott. This was the real deal.

10 years or more pass in Buddhist bliss, and I begin a close friendship at work with a Christian. He shares his bible class stuff he’s going through with me, and I relate it to Buddhism, and explain ever so gently how Buddhism is so much more open and peaceful than the Christian way, and how we shared so much in common with our views on the sanctity of life, etc… I have him some stuff to read. He asked me to read the gospels. Fair exchange. I took it a step further, and began meditating on Jesus and the Gospel accounts of his life. While still chanting my Nembutsu to the Buddha of Limitless light and life (Amitabah or Amida). I started wondering if the pure land and the kingdom of heaven weren’t perhaps the same thing. Then if Amida was the same soul or spirit who was Christ to the Jews and gentiles who had believed. That God was the summation of energy that the Buddha’s, Jesus etc. were all prophets or sharers of for their individual audiences in this culturally divided world.

I could go on forever, and have already gone on way to long. In need a few hundred pages to do my conversion story. It’s really a pretty good one, but by and by the Holy Spirit kept bumping me up against the door to the Catholic Church. I discovered Scott Hahn’s The Lambs Supper as an audio book at a truck stop when moving from Kansas to Nevada, and began attending the Holy Mass, and enrolling in RCIA with my atheist wife who had patiently suffered my religious dealings for 26 year or so by this time, and was convinced that whether or not there was anything to it, that I was sure head over heels, and it was worth a taste, anyway. We were brought into the Church on the Easter Vigil on April 15, 2006, and both of us are in love with Jesus, and His Church in a way that makes the rest of our complacent family wonder what the heck is going on with us. Nothing bad though. They just don’t know what to make of it.

The whole point was, my wife and I were both raised in the 60’s and 70’s by WW2 and Korea vets who had simply marginalized religion. We both had brushes with atheism for sure, but without childhood conditions one way or another, both ended up with Jesus by the grace of God and the power of the Holy Spirit. Neither conditioning, nor intellectualism and reasoning went into the final result. It’s become apparent to me that none of us are “born atheists”. It’s a choice of the intellect, and frankly, unless things have changed considerably in the circles out there, it’s kind of elitist, and of course humanocentric, and simply doesn’t account for metaphysics and the spirit. At it’s core, it’s just sad. Empty sadness. And nobody does a harder job on recruiting. Well…maybe Scientologists. When you’re sitting at an RCIA session with people from all over the map, deciding upon the Catholic Church as a possible answer, I guarantee you there’s a major story to be heard from everyone in the room. We never left RCIA between 2004 and 2009, because we love watching the process happen. It’s amazing. Non Catholics won’t even believe all I’ve seen in RCIA. There are no miracles? There’s a lot of former “atheists” who’d beg to disagree. They mostly just had to get over themselves, and give over to their Lord.

Peace,

Steven
 
Great story, Steven. Enjoyed reading it. I very much like your signature, as well as the quote from St. Francis on your profile. Did you know that some of his poems are in a book called Love Poems from God? With your background, there is a book you are likely to enjoy.

Blessings and Best.
 
Well, I certainly can’t claim to be a “famous” Christian, but I was born into a non-religious family and have, within the past year or so, embraced Christ and taken up a strong interest in the Catholic faith. I received no religious education as a child apart from infrequent visits to a Unitarian church/Sunday school, where the teachings were more about tolerance and less about divinity or the Bible. My parents were and still are similar to the kind that StevenFrancis mentioned - lukewarm and rather noncommittal with regard to religion.

I didn’t learn my religious tendencies from anyone in my family, so I can only point to the workings of God to explain my inner conversion. So, no, I don’t believe that it is true. He can call anyone to Him, regardless of childhood religious experience.
 
Anthony flew isn’t christian but he changed his view on God after being one of the most respected atheist philosophers of his time

Peter Kreeft a very smart philosopher at boston college said in a debate at UL this past year that the one guy we would hate to debate is Anthony flew and now he is on our side 😃
 
Anthony flew isn’t christian but he changed his view on God after being one of the most respected atheist philosophers of his time

Peter Kreeft a very smart philosopher at boston college said in a debate at UL this past year that the one guy we would hate to debate is Anthony flew and now he is on our side 😃
I WAS AT THAT DEBATE!!! I remember him saying that too! I go to Southeastern and my brother goes to UL. Peter Kreeft did a good job (like always)!
 
I WAS AT THAT DEBATE!!! I remember him saying that too! I go to Southeastern and my brother goes to UL. Peter Kreeft did a good job (like always)!
i was busy that day but caught the debate online Kreeft dominated that debate.
 
Wonderful story Stephen. I found it interesting in how you found some comparisons in Christianity and Buddhism. I often think of all the religions of the world as God instilling this desire for us to know and love God. But without God revealing himself to us, we try to reach out to him, but not quite getting it right. I am glad that you found a home in Christ after all those years.
 
G.K. Chesterton was born into the Church of England and became an atheist or agnostic at at a young age and eventually made his way to the church
No, actually he was born into a Unitarian family. In his early life he dabbled into the occult. He eventually become Anglican after seeing all the criticisms of Christianity contradicting themselves and each other. As an Anglican, however, he always defended the Catholic Church more than he defended Anglicanism, but refrained from going all the way for awhile perhaps because his wife was a devout Anglican. Nonetheless, he eventually converted to Catholicism, and his wife followed him four years later.
 
I don’t think anyone is born atheist. I was an atheist for many years, but I conciously rejected God’s existence in my childhood, to the consternation of my classmates. This was because (like Richard Dawkins now argues) God seemed a childish, impotent and silly explanation for the universe, like Santa Claus, especially when compared to science. But you are never ‘baptised’ an atheist like you are baptised a Christian.
 
antroji

*Trying to remember when the notion of “God” first entered my mind…and how… *

What a curious thing for a Catholic to say? Wouldn’t it be your parents … assuming they were religious?
 
Steven

It’s become apparent to me that none of us are “born atheists”. It’s a choice of the intellect, and frankly, unless things have changed considerably in the circles out there, it’s kind of elitist, and of course humanocentric, and simply doesn’t account for metaphysics and the spirit.

I was very much intrigued by your account of your spiritual journey. Congratulations on finding your way home. 👍

The passage above is one I might have written once, except that I no longer believe it. I do not think atheism is an intellectual choice. I think it is rooted in some kind of psychological angst. I think it is true that some atheists will try to make it seem that it is an intellectual choice, because they never stop maligning the so-called childishness of religion and the lack of intellect in religion. However, this strikes me as a subterfuge, and I think the real reasons for choosing atheism will be found elsewhere, usually from one’s youth. Some of these reason are well explored by psychologist Paul Vitz in his Faith of the Fatherless. 🙂
 
antroji

*Trying to remember when the notion of “God” first entered my mind…and how… *

What a curious thing for a Catholic to say? Wouldn’t it be your parents … assuming they were religious?
Yes, they were/are very RC, the one that’s left practically living on EWTN. It may be curious, my question, but it does bring with it the swarm of questions as evidenced in other threads about how and why we espouse the religion that we do, or why we change to or from it from any direction and by whatever agency. I continue to maintain that most of us don’t sufficiently or honestly examine our conscience as to those events by dint of the habitual momentum of our Faith.

Naturally we tend to take it and Christianity as a “given” as distinct from a phenomenon. We might even venture into the ideas of Muslims and Jews, but not much farther, though there are some students of Buddhism and maybe Zen on here. Those, along with “New Age” ideas that might have some small grain of truth in them, we usually dismiss out of hand, prefering to take seriously only our family of faiths.

So I question as well the semantic accuracy of the thread question. No human is born anything but embodied and aware to some degree or other. We are born into a family, an orphanage, a location, a culture, a stream of ideas, etc, etc. Sometimes we have enough desire for introspection that we go beyond the normal and pervasive tendencies for self-verification, judgment, and blame. We wish to make ourselves right at nearly any cost, and in the emotionally loaded areas of religion and politics, this seems especially true. That is why we are generally enjoined to not discuss these things in polite company unless asked to do so, missionary’s of any stripe notwithstanding.

Certainly we can assume a meaning from the thread question as is, but it’s form tends to verify the fallacies inherent in every day usage and in the structure of English grammar itself. Those fallacies don’t encourage me to take a lot of stock in many arguments on here from either atheists, Christian or any other persuasion. So rather than blame or judge, or rely on a faith system I nevertheless use, I do look to myself for answers as a matter of integrity. And though my birth religion claims to be all encompassing, I am responsible for accepting that premise. It is, after all, a faith, whether we capitalize that word in any sense or not, or whatever reasons we marshal for adhering to it, or whatever claims we make for its verity.
 
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